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is Greg 'The Professor' Maddux the most underrated pitcher of all time?

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floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
Underrated by whom? He’s revered
carnelian base
  04/05/26
how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?
floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
He's undoubtedly top 3
Boyish Feces Church Building
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan? Randy Johnson?
floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind to...
carnelian base
  04/05/26
honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name ...
floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order: Maddux Joh...
Boyish Feces Church Building
  04/05/26
cr but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or ...
floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO
Boyish Feces Church Building
  04/05/26
all 3 above above ryan?
floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete...
pink address idiot
  04/05/26
Hard to say but he’s up there for sure
carnelian base
  04/05/26
he's def most high iq though, no?
floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal ...
carnelian base
  04/05/26
the latter obv i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the ...
floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. N...
carnelian base
  04/05/26
cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bob...
floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
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Racist Redneck from Alabama
  06/04/26
he's appropriately rated
hyperventilating vibrant tattoo
  04/05/26
lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher ...
razzle-dazzle potus
  04/05/26
Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?
floppy garnet locus
  04/05/26
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Glassy Charismatic Patrolman Associate
  04/06/26
Pedro was better (than anyone).
indigo glittery sanctuary
  04/05/26
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hyperventilating vibrant tattoo
  04/05/26
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dark circlehead wrinkle
  04/07/26
He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys...
big orange goyim
  04/05/26
Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generat...
Alcoholic lettuce
  04/05/26
he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smart...
ultramarine business firm boltzmann
  04/06/26
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floppy garnet locus
  04/06/26
He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorr...
Glassy Charismatic Patrolman Associate
  04/06/26
yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1...
ultramarine business firm boltzmann
  04/06/26
Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently h...
Glassy Charismatic Patrolman Associate
  04/07/26
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Ricky
  06/04/26
do not google. there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or gr...
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Randy Johnson Clemmons Pedro Ryan Glavine Bab...
Ricky
  06/04/26
this career WAR. you got these right. 1. Cy Young+ (22)...
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tokens in abundance
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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:38 PM
Author: carnelian base

Underrated by whom? He’s revered

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus

how does he rank all time, is he a top 3?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:40 PM
Author: Boyish Feces Church Building

He's undoubtedly top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus

Nolan Ryan?

Randy Johnson?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: carnelian base

Nolan Ryan has to be up there. Randy Johnson came to mind too but idk.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus

honestly probably the hardest position in any sport to name a top 3-5

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:50 PM
Author: Boyish Feces Church Building

Top 3 of the modern era in no particular order:

Maddux

Johnson

Martinez

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:53 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus

cr

but does Clemons, Verlander or Kershaw have a shot or are they well outside top 3

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: Boyish Feces Church Building

Well outside, but definitely in top 10, even above nolan IMO

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:55 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus

all 3 above above ryan?



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:59 PM
Author: pink address idiot

pedro's peak is hard to beat but clemens had a more complete career. however you rank they are both tier 1.

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:41 PM
Author: carnelian base

Hard to say but he’s up there for sure

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:42 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus

he's def most high iq though, no?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:44 PM
Author: carnelian base

Not sure, don’t really follow players’ personal lives, or do you mean high IQ with respect to how he played?

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:45 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus

the latter obv

i dont give a fuck if he's foaming at the mouth level dumb irl in his off time as long as hes throwing fucking gems over the mound

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: carnelian base

Surely the catcher and pitching coach get some credit too. No man is an island

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:47 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus

cr but he made all the calls for the catcher(s) and told bobby and mazzone to get fucked a bunch

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Date: June 4th, 2026 1:01 AM
Author: Racist Redneck from Alabama



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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: hyperventilating vibrant tattoo

he's appropriately rated

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle potus

lol no; Roger Clemens is easily the most underrated pitcher of all time

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Date: April 5th, 2026 8:58 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus

Seaver, Carlton, Scherzer, no?

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:04 PM
Author: Glassy Charismatic Patrolman Associate



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:27 PM
Author: indigo glittery sanctuary

Pedro was better (than anyone).

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:47 PM
Author: hyperventilating vibrant tattoo



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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:54 AM
Author: dark circlehead wrinkle



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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:51 PM
Author: big orange goyim

He would get wrecked by the "juiced" ball and guys like Trout and Ohtani

If you swapped some random cy young candidate like Bryan Woo for Maddux, he would crush it in the 90s also

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Date: April 5th, 2026 9:55 PM
Author: Alcoholic lettuce

Pretty sure most agree he was the greatest SP of his generation

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:49 AM
Author: ultramarine business firm boltzmann

he's appropriately rated. great competitor. mentally smarter than other players. perennial gold glove fielder. platonic ideal of "the professor" type who doesn't throw super hard but just outthinks the batter. also insanely low walk rate - nobody - absolutely nobody - had better control

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Date: April 6th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: floppy garnet locus



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Date: April 6th, 2026 2:11 PM
Author: Glassy Charismatic Patrolman Associate

He threw a 92 mph fastball and everyone remembers him incorrectly for not having any velocity.

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Date: April 6th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: ultramarine business firm boltzmann

yeah, is that fast to you? the only starting pitcher post 1960 in the hall of fame that threw softer is tom glavine. only reliever is trevor hoffman

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Date: April 7th, 2026 7:52 AM
Author: Glassy Charismatic Patrolman Associate

Yes, 92 mph is fast. Most xo Poasters couldn't competently hit a 92 mph fastball with a year of dedicated training.

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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:17 AM
Author: Ricky



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:31 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


do not google.

there at 10 pitchers with WAR of 100 or greater. name them.

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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:36 AM
Author: Ricky

Randy Johnson

Clemmons

Pedro

Ryan

Glavine

Babe Ruth

Scherzer

Seaver

cy Young

Maddux



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:43 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


this career WAR. you got these right.

1. Cy Young+ (22) 165.9 7356.0 R

3. Roger Clemens (24) 138.7 4916.2 R

7. Tom Seaver+ (20) 106.0 4783.0 R

8. Greg Maddux+ (23) 104.8 5008.1 R

9. Randy Johnson+ (22) 103.5 4135.1 L



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Date: June 4th, 2026 12:57 AM
Author: tokens in abundance
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Clayton Kershaw

Curt Schilling

Mariano Rivera

Bob Gibson

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