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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law...
razzle point
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
motley smoky internal respiration
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
motley smoky internal respiration
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Salmon Tantric Field Party Of The First Part
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
well-lubricated orchestra pit associate
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
amber locale
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
appetizing coldplay fan
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Medicated coffee pot keepsake machete
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Medicated coffee pot keepsake machete
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Medicated coffee pot keepsake machete
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Exhilarant selfie ticket booth
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
dead fluffy useless brakes
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
talented quadroon
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
amber locale
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
razzle point
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Opaque contagious main people
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Sepia library
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Henna ladyboy base
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
razzle point
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Mischievous Heady Really Tough Guy
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/26/25
...
Bateful pisswyrm juggernaut
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
transparent provocative codepig
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
brass trailer park brethren
  06/26/25
...
Electric Unhinged Alpha
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Vivacious Black Nursing Home
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
fishy multi-billionaire
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
harsh stead
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
fishy multi-billionaire
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
amber locale
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
appetizing coldplay fan
  06/27/25
...
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
titillating gaming laptop native
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
fishy multi-billionaire
  06/27/25
...
lilac hyperactive site people who are hurt
  06/27/25
...
Fragrant Circlehead
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
harsh stead
  06/27/25
How is STB?
appetizing coldplay fan
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
180 striped hyena theatre
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
amber locale
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
transparent provocative codepig
  06/27/25
...
mind-boggling translucent dopamine
  06/27/25
...
amber locale
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: razzle point

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: motley smoky internal respiration

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: motley smoky internal respiration

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Salmon Tantric Field Party Of The First Part

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: well-lubricated orchestra pit associate

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: amber locale

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: appetizing coldplay fan

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Medicated coffee pot keepsake machete

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Medicated coffee pot keepsake machete

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Medicated coffee pot keepsake machete

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Exhilarant selfie ticket booth

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: dead fluffy useless brakes

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: talented quadroon

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: amber locale

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: razzle point

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Opaque contagious main people

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Sepia library

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Henna ladyboy base

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: razzle point

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Mischievous Heady Really Tough Guy

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Bateful pisswyrm juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: transparent provocative codepig

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: brass trailer park brethren

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Electric Unhinged Alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Vivacious Black Nursing Home

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: fishy multi-billionaire

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: harsh stead

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: fishy multi-billionaire

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: amber locale

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: appetizing coldplay fan

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: titillating gaming laptop native

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: fishy multi-billionaire

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: lilac hyperactive site people who are hurt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Fragrant Circlehead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: harsh stead

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: appetizing coldplay fan

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: 180 striped hyena theatre

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: amber locale

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: transparent provocative codepig

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: mind-boggling translucent dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: amber locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)