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Why do in house lawyers have such giant chips on their shoulders
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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:18 PM Author: Exciting Library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140212) |
Date: July 29th, 2025 12:24 PM Author: mind-boggling public bath death wish There's a wierd dynamic with in-housemos and law firmmos.
Lawfirmmos are used to being bossed around and treated like trash by their clients. And they normally happily bend over and take it.
But when the "client" bossing them around is another lawyer, often one who makes much less money and/or is less prestigious, it bothers the law firmmo to have to bend over and get fucked in the ass with a smile. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: slimy exhilarant reading party psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140229) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:34 PM Author: puce background story cr. it's funny because firmmos are often oblivious to corporate internal prestige hierarchy and sometimes wind up being unduly deferential to bill the useless boomer accounting drone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140252) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:41 PM Author: supple crusty state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140805) |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:17 PM Author: Hateful hospital preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49145991) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:58 PM Author: Exciting Library This is good impression of an in house lawyer with giant chip on his shoulder, yes, but can you answer the question (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140303) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:02 PM Author: flushed irradiated box office The answer is because in-house lawyers (outside of GCs) are failures. Let's just cut to the chase. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140317) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:08 PM Author: puce background story why are the biglolyers in both these threads defensive pumos?
fyi in-housemos don't hate firmmos. it's hard to do that when we were all just like you in the past. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:09 PM Author: flushed irradiated box office Bro, you were never like us. That's the difference. It just took a few years to sort it out. Now please continue to project your angst through more adderall screeds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140339) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:12 PM Author: awkward up-to-no-good mad-dog skullcap hey man how's the family and lifestyle sounds like it's chill and going great all worth it in the end right haha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140343) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:12 PM Author: puce background story have the draft to me by friday morning at the latest as im taking a halfday to get to the beach before traffic hits. thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140344) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:18 PM Author: Cracking grizzly philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140358) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:25 PM Author: seedy party of the first part theater stage hey devry master’s candidate pumo, chiming in here as it looks like gunner’s still waiting on a response. we expect quicker response times from our trusted counsel, even on matters you may consider routine or less time-sensitive. if it’s a capacity issue, we can have a conversation about getting you some help. please confirm receipt.
cc’ing relationship partner for visibility. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: awkward up-to-no-good mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140425) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: seedy party of the first part theater stage theories about never having been “like us” aside, i deeply empathize with the existential horror of knowing the passive aggressive little bitch who sent that email just activated the yelling partner, and the yelling partner is going to yell at you until you do what the passive aggressive little bitch says, and your choices are to either comply or to no longer have the distinct honor and privilege of doing what the passive aggressive little bitch says and, in the long run, that affecting your ability to get to do what other passive aggressive little bitches say in exchange for money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140466) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:50 PM Author: awkward up-to-no-good mad-dog skullcap Wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140473) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:58 PM Author: puce background story im at work without access to my bookmarks: can someone bump the xmas eve email thread me, mainlining, tbf, et al engaged in collaborative creative writing on a couple years ago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140522) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:01 PM Author: seedy party of the first part theater stage u want the ‘17 edition, the ‘22 edition, or the ‘24 edition https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3481079&mc=158&forum_id=2 https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5256874&mc=199&forum_id=2 https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5654002&mc=34&forum_id=2 |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:09 PM Author: puce background story 180 threads but i was referring to this
https://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4992715&mc=479&forum_id=2
before the hampster dies you should chronicle THE DEFINITIVE top 100 threads oh bort historian |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:40 PM Author: clear flatulent patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49146070) |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:39 PM Author: clear flatulent patrolman That is my thread friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49146068) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:43 PM Author: puce background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140456) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:49 AM Author: Sooty gaping toilet seat this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142588) |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:38 PM Author: clear flatulent patrolman 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49146065) |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:59 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49146153) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:39 PM Author: Doobsian crackhouse fuck off gook, ur parents run a drycleaners (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140438) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:19 PM Author: hyperactive twinkling uncleanness you’re the only one in either thread that appears to take genuine, personal offense, and your pathetic, glommy “we were just like you”—especially with its implication that it is fact the inhousemos who have evolved into something superior—is the saddest, most transparent grasping in either thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140360) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:22 PM Author: awkward up-to-no-good mad-dog skullcap lmao with the "you care way too much about this" when you're the one making enormous leaps like "its implication that it is fact the inhousemos who have evolved into something superior". you're fucking deranged (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140366) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:24 PM Author: hyperactive twinkling uncleanness “ have the draft to me by friday morning at the latest as im taking a halfday to get to the beach before traffic hits. thank.” o what a leap! |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:25 PM Author: awkward up-to-no-good mad-dog skullcap yeah man that totally sounds like it was 100% said in earnest and not an incredibly obvious joke. again, you're fucking deranged (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140379) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:27 PM Author: hyperactive twinkling uncleanness you seem maf. the fact of the matter is it is beyond sad that either firmmos or inhousemos would derive any sense of superiority (or suffer any feelings of inferiority) by comparison with the other as a class. that gunneratttt is getting worked up about the topic is not surprising, but it is hilarious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140393) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: puce background story youve just unchairtably read my poasts. i can see how "we were like you" could be read as paternalisric. that wasn't my intent, all i wws trying to say is we've been in your shoes.
my good friend and life partner zurich is itt and a firmmo partner and he'll tell you ive advised him to stay at his firm rather than jump in-house. my bff is a biglol partner. i certainly don't feel i made an objectively superior decision. chill. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:16 PM Author: Doobsian crackhouse I sometimes wish you’d just advise me to leave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140735) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: puce background story because your neurotic birdbrain senses stagnation and you know rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic would alleviate that by giving you the sensation of "doing something." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140777) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:47 PM Author: Doobsian crackhouse ur calling me a birdbrain? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140829) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:23 PM Author: Exciting Library gunneratttt can't help but get worked up about things because of his amphetamine use 😔 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140765) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: puce background story in response to:
"Bro, you were never like us. That's the difference. It just took a few years to sort it out. Now please continue to project your angst through more adderall screeds."
guess i was way out of line to give a flippant and dismissive response rather than engage in good faith. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:34 PM Author: puce background story in both threads i tried to signal that i have no antipathy toward firmmos, you're only interpreting that as gloomy or superior evolution (lol) because you are emotional and defensive. and the reason for that is obvious.
it's just a lifestyle choice. the work is essentially the same. why can't i just say "id rather have less hours and stress than more money" and you say "id rather work more and earn more" and leave it at that? |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:34 PM Author: Exciting Library GCs are an interesting case. Biglaw partners who go in house (and may come back to Biglaw as a partner, stop over in a more senior role in government, etc.) don't seem to have the same chip in their shoulder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140413) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:10 PM Author: Vengeful Azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140340) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:53 PM Author: Marvelous Ruby Lay "But my PRESTIGE" he muttered as he was forced to crawl around on the floor and oink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140490) |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:58 PM Author: clear flatulent patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49146149) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:36 PM Author: Doobsian crackhouse i just applied for a job with a videogame company. i don't really want to leave the firm bc i want to stack money for 3 years and semiretire, but i could go a different direction and go in house. then again, i don't think i'd do well having a boss so i dunno. plus, best case scenario it's a $200k pay cut. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140421) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:38 PM Author: Exciting Library At a certain point, Biglaw pays so much that it becomes extremely difficult to leave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140432) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:40 PM Author: Doobsian crackhouse ironically, i am at a boutique now and making much more than i did in biglaw. i was in the 300s at baker hostetler as a fifth year partner. their comp system is a bit out of whack to say the least. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140447) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:49 PM Author: Exciting Library That's messed up. I make in the 2s as a service partner of about the same seniority (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140471) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:50 PM Author: hyperactive twinkling uncleanness 200,000ks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140477) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: Exciting Library 2,000,000ks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140507) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:56 PM Author: hyperactive twinkling uncleanness 180k! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140510) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:39 PM Author: puce background story well im glad youve resolved your neuroticism about this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140437) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:40 PM Author: Doobsian crackhouse ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140444) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:41 PM Author: Doobsian crackhouse MY COUSIN CREATED FALLOUT! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140449) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:06 PM Author: Exciting Library Fallout is 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140563) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:11 PM Author: Doobsian crackhouse His name was Eric “Ferret” Baudoin. He is det now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140720) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:16 PM Author: Exciting Library Dragon Age: Origins seems like his best credit tbh, since he didn't work on Fallout, Fallout 2 or New Vegas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140734) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: Doobsian crackhouse he worked on fallout 3, right? anyway, RIP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140836) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:02 PM Author: Exciting Library Apparently just Fallout 4 and 76, of games that got released (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140887) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:20 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band What a bizarre description. What "chip" could we possibly have? In-house people are overwhelmingly happy we no longer bill hours but we have to keep law firm lawyers from running up the bill by putting 4+ people on calls or letting people pad hours. Otherwise, we pay you money to do specific work. You never actually talk to our clients except in a few limited litigation scenarios, so it isn't like we're worried that you'll somehow upstage us. Our jobs have remarkably little in common.
Every once in a while you'll see an in-house lawyer go to a firm but it is a once in a blue moon event. 99% of in-house lawyers are thrilled that they're in-house and not biglaw. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:24 PM Author: Exciting Library No chips here, folks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140613) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:07 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band Again, describe the nature of the chip. I get over $450k/year in comp, have over 6 weeks of vacation, and WFH. My wife is over $350k, also in-house. So it isn't money either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140706) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:13 PM Author: Exciting Library "I'm happy!" screeched the guy with no chip on his shoulder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140725) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:16 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band What do you imagine I'm unhappy about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140733) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: Exciting Library Nothing, you're clearly a very happy, secure person with good self esteem. We should all aspire to be more like you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140737) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:18 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band Yes, exactly, now you get it. If I get panned for anything on XO it is being too smug and happy with my choices, believing that they are always the best choices possible.
But I'm giving you the opportunity to sell me on what I should feel bad about. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:58 PM Author: ocher mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141026) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:24 PM Author: puce background story why can't firmmos itt just shrug and say "different strokes for different folks?" why is it so important for you to think we're just coping?
biglaw continues to struggle retaining talent. my biglol bros always bitch about zoomer work ethic and how we had no leverage coming up post ite. any inhousemo at a f500 could go back to biglol, the same cannot be said for all biglolyers. why wouldn't we just go back to biglol if we were secretly seething with envy? |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: Exciting Library I could ask you what on earth you're talking about, but then you'd type a ton and I wouldn't read it and that's not fair to you.
If you need a reminder on what this thread is about, the title is toward the top of the page. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:37 PM Author: puce background story "why do inhousemos have such a chip on their shoulder?"
"im happy and all my colleagues are."
"cope more burnout"
you've made up your mind inhousemos are seething because your ego is tied to your job, and people who could have it but don't want it devalues it and makes you emptional. so you dismiss people claiming they're happy (u mad!) and nonpersonal arguments (tldr!). |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:38 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140799) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:40 PM Author: Exciting Library Link the thread you're talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140803) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:41 PM Author: hyperactive twinkling uncleanness you conveniently left out the part where the dood denied having a chip before he launched into his defensive spiel about how 180 his life is. it would make sense if he wants to explain the chip on that basis, but this lack of even rudimentary self-awareness is the point of the thread. relatedly, your poor reading comp helps explain the generalized distrust of in-house counsel competence that underlies the entire conversation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140808) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:44 PM Author: Exciting Library That's what was so funny. The pumo that started this subthread obviously has a huge chip on his shoulder, as evinced by his need to emphasize that in house lawyers are better people doing better work and are extremely happy with their choices (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140820) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band Our work is different. We're better at the work we do, which is to be expected. I provided concrete evidence that we're happy with our choices (if we weren't, law firms would be flooded with resumes from in-house lawyers, which they're not). In general, people that choose to have actual work-life balance and spend time with their family and friends and have irl hobbies are objectively "better people" than people who live to bill so they can maximize their shekels. That said, we're all lawyers and therefore we're all objectively shitty people.
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:59 PM Author: ocher mood it’s TMF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141031) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:03 PM Author: Exciting Library lol if true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141039) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:06 PM Author: ocher mood it’s 100% him
him and his ugly ass wife have $800k HHI and live in a swamp, while they refuse to raise their own kid and he orders goislop delivery food 5-6 days a week cuz she’s too busy to cook too
to them this sad middle class lifestyle is big success |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:01 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band Oh no, our food is so goyische! Wtf is this dumbfuckery? Watching you impotently rage at us is hilarious. It is the weirdest topics too. "Omg, Slavs are such shit!" Says the guy with a Slavic wife and half Slavic kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141172) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:05 PM Author: ocher mood I didn’t mention your mongrel genetics, dumbshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141181) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:45 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band If you declare that "X person has a chip on their shoulder" the burden is on them to demonstrate the nature of that chip. So far, this thread really makes it seem like people in law firms have a massive chip. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140823) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: hyperactive twinkling uncleanness there’s no reason to bear that burden so long as the subjects of your claim will *run* into threads to do it for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140832) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:52 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band OP: "OMG, in-house lawyers have a HUGE CHIP on their shoulders!"
In-house lawyers: "We're actually happy and see a ton of law firm lawyers trying to get jobs doing what we do and generally have no desire to return to firms."
Firm lawyers: "OMG QED QED QED!!!!!1" |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: Exciting Library "No, YOU have a chip on YOUR shoulder"
lmao, ok bro |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:01 PM Author: ocher mood as soon as I saw the thread title I just knew you would run in here to create a subthread wasteland where ACKSHUALLY you’re doing great and everyone should be jealous of you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141035) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:58 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band In-house threading is as reliable of a TMF bait topic as BMW performance SUVs these days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141169) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:08 PM Author: puce background story first you criticize me for writing too much and now you're criticizing me for leaving something out trying to get my point across in fewer words.
you've given up even trying to engage in good faith. and lol at launching adhoms about retarded scuffling on xo and what that says about in-house work generally.
ultimately this thread is about attitudes inhouse and if you're primed to reject multiple poasters saying "im happy and my colleagues are" what else can i say? i can't put you inside my head to prove its how i feel so we're at an impasse.
it's 4pm and i just got home. scuffling on xo was 90% of my workday. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:14 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140925) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:30 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band Whenever we have an opening we get flooded with law firm people. We generally prefer people from in-house (for a bunch of reason). People in-house almost never leave for firms (as you noted). That speaks for itself.
I think it is the biglaw culture. Everything at firms is some dick measuring contest. "I billed X hours! I'm a ROCKSTAR!" People who act like that in-house get told to curb their enthusiasm and if they don't they get sent packing. Ultimately, biglaw people are just miserable people trying to act cheerful. Ergo, thread like this. And to my earlier point about preferring people already in-house? Yes, this cultural disparity is one reason for that. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:52 PM Author: puce background story cr. i avoided pointing the ability to exit in either direction is far from equal because because i didnt want them to think i was accusing them of cope and sour grapes.
tbf i get it. most of us came in as true believers and accepting that all the time and energy was only ever about inflating a time sheet is tough to swallow. especially if you're locked in golden handcuffs. firms purposefully stoke competitiveness and the value of their work to incentivize them to continue billing. its a cult like mentality, which is why they react so strongly when the cult dogma is threatened. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:54 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140864) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:57 PM Author: ocher mood Lmao, you two ghouls give away your lives and time with your kid that it will never get back, and this is all you get?
“more porridge, sir?”
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:14 PM Author: puce background story tmf and i are arguing the work-life gains fron inhouse outweighed the better earnings in biglaw, so your angle of criticism is bizarre. compounded by dismissing 450k for a 40hr wfh job as insignificant.
i gather that you're motivated by some feud with tmf but you managed to make the dumbest possible arguments. sometimes it really does seem like you're being retarded on purpose. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:17 PM Author: ocher mood point is that if they were humans then one of those incomes would easily suffice and they could actually raise their kid. instead they add some incremental HHI that still leaves them in the middle class, but the catch is that their kid is raised by strangers
sick people, as is anyone else doing the same thing |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:27 PM Author: puce background story all i know about tmf and mandy is that they're russian inhousemos, and i assume that's where your ire comes from. i had no idea this was tmf until you showed up.
i guess someone out the loop would think it was bizarre if i showed called a pumo spaceporn and referencing his shit, so i suppose this is in line with xo culture. carry on. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:57 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band The hilarious thing is that we're as Russian as his wife is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141165) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:55 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band So the source of your anger is that my wife earns too much money being a senior in-house lawyer and should be as useless and unproductive as your former prostitute wife? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141160) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 12:39 PM Author: ocher mood no anger, I really feel bad for your kid to have two completely cucked out wagecucks for “parents”
you still latching onto titles is so fucking sad. I guess you mongrels were made for the rat race |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 12:44 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band Somehow, in a thread of in-house lawyers vs law firm lawyers the real battle is me vs unemployed people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142853) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 9:32 PM Author: Comical aquamarine chapel LMFAO NO YOU DO NOT MAKE 450k
YOU ARE FUCKING ASSOCIATE GENERAL COUNSEL
JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP TMF AND ASK ME HOW I KNOW YOU DONT MAKE 450k
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Date: July 29th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: supple crusty state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141759) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:11 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band Ok, how do you know?
Edit: do you even know how comp for director levels at my company works? |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:16 PM Author: supple crusty state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141798) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:43 AM Author: Comical aquamarine chapel You aren't a director. You are an associate general counsel in privacy compliance. You aren't making anywhere near $450k. And Mandy isn't making anywhere near $350k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142565) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:44 AM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band AGC here is equivalent to Senior Director. So yes, I absolutely am. More importantly, everyone in this band gets LTI (in other words, RSUs). I am also not in "privacy compliance."
As for my wife, that's not even a high salary for her position. |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:47 AM Author: Comical aquamarine chapel I have seen the salaries of people at your shitcompany and you are making about $200k all in. Just lol at trying to pass off $450k. and double LOL at mandy making $350k at her shitjob. You're such an insecure liar. You're both biglaw rejects with massive chips on your shoulders because you weren't good enough to last more than 11 months in biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142581) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:51 AM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band You absolutely have not if you think that. Even our counsels (a band below me) make more than that. My STI + LTI is more than that.
Mandy is a direct report to the CLO. The company is smaller but not sure why you think that salary is remarkable. |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:52 AM Author: Comical aquamarine chapel No, you don't, liar. I know for a fact.
Lol at a "direct report" to the CLO of her shitbank with 100 employees.
Remarkable? When did I ever say it is remarkable? You and Mandy have been in law for 20 years and you have never once scratched at what I made as a midlevel associate years ago. |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:55 AM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band No, you obviously don't. You didn't even know that AGC is Director level here.
Yeah, it has 100 employees. Totally.
Is this based on the alternative universe where we make $115k or something?
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Date: July 30th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: Comical aquamarine chapel this whole thread is amazing in proving exactly OPs point.
You could not last more than 11 months in biglaw. Your only dream in this world was to work biglaw. You fantasized about it. We all remember. And you got canned after 11 fucking months, never to return. Back to biglaw? No. Back to school, literally more school, only to get "JD advantage" roles.
So you have concocted this laughable story about how all along what you really wanted to do was to work in midlevel legal compliance at a F1000 company. Screens, teams meetings, 'deliverables' all day.
Congrats on making less at the age of 45 than I made as a midlevel associate. too bad you couldn't have gotten it up front and invested in the S&P 500 years ago like I did. You wouldn't have to worry about paid vacation like you do now. |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band You seem MAF for some reason and I have no idea who you are or why you're MAF. Best of luck with all that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142653) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 11:45 AM Author: Comical aquamarine chapel great response you fucking loser. now back to work you wagie employee cuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142707) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 11:48 AM Author: supple crusty state Amazing subthread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142716) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 11:51 AM Author: puce background story xo is a very special place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142720) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 9:28 PM Author: sickened orchestra pit becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141715) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:57 PM Author: Exciting Library The in house lawyers may or may not have noticed that the OP didn't mention Biglaw.
Suppose someone posted "Why do PE principals have such giant chips on their shoulders", and that's all. If a bunch PE guys ran in to talk about how being a PE guy is actually better than being a Biglaw lawyer, that would be really weird, right? And the reason it would be weird isn't because they'd be wrong -- being a big shot PE dude is actually better! But it would still be really weird.
Think about that, in house bros. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:02 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band What a stupid point. Most in-house lawyers came from biglaw and the realistic choice was to continue pushing at law firms (or go back to firms) or stay in-house. Very few in-house lawyers can become PE principals for a whole bunch of reasons. Just like for many PE principals the comparisons would be VCs or i-banking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140888) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:05 PM Author: Exciting Library Can you tone it down just a bit? People are going to think you're my sock puppet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49140898) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:20 PM Author: puce background story 1) this thread parallel thread to this one about in-house v. biglol
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755930&mc=44&forum_id=2
2) we're on fucking xoxo. this is in line with your point too, but a thread about in house lawyers on a fucking lawyer forum implicitly is about others LAWYER options. he might as well said "hmmm but what about compared to professional poker players, no one said biglaw!"
this is exactly the type of biglol "GOTCHAS!" invested in being right. i can envision op loling about how a lazy in-housemo improperly italicized a comma in a routine discovery motion and patting himself on the back for his attention to detail.
"heh, this is why the bring in the big guns", senior assoc at 1:12am
"great work on this but this matter settled yesterday at cob", -sent from iPhone at 11:12am. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:19 PM Author: hyperactive twinkling uncleanness lol at this “i am the one who knocks” larping. you couldn’t do a better job of proving op’s point if you were shtick. |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 5:32 PM Author: puce background story i have no idea what point you're trying to make. im not pretending to be some walter white tough guy, im pointing out that your "no one said biglaw!" nitpick is an example of the attitude makes people want to blow their brains out if they had to keep doing it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141101) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:04 PM Author: Exciting Library "Why'd you do it?"
"I didn't kill nobody!"
"Didn't say nothing about killing..."
"OK, now you're nitpicking." |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:17 PM Author: puce background story except for all the context already referenced.
[Marshall Gerard corners fugitive Doctor Kimble]
Kimble: "I didn't kill my wife!"
Gerard: "Who said anything anout killing your wife?" |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:34 PM Author: Exciting Library OK, let's start over. You don't need to convince me that in house lawyers have huge chips on their shoulders, OK? I got that part. I'm asking about why. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141241) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:42 PM Author: puce background story it's like you're trying to give me PTSD about dealing with lawyers engaging in bad faith sophistry in routine discovery. at this point id just reach for the phone to call the judge and you'd fold.
you created this thread and engaged in biglaw v. inhouse the entire time |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 7:04 PM Author: Exciting Library I don't think I said anything about biglaw versus inhouse except I made the--what I would have thought--anodyne observation that it's hard to give up biglaw money.
If you're not running chip-on-shoulder in house lawyer shtick (and you very much appear to be), my best guess is that the giant chip on your shoulder is coloring your perception of this thread |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 1:15 PM Author: Comical aquamarine chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142927) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 6:43 PM Author: mind-boggling public bath death wish After reviewing this thread, my conclusion is that both the lawfirmmos and the inhousemos authoring most of the poasts in this thread are all insecure in their own faggy ways. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141259) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 7:10 PM Author: hyperactive twinkling uncleanness ti,oc,tcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141344) |
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Date: July 30th, 2025 10:57 AM Author: Hairraiser Stubborn Garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49142607) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:54 PM Author: Trip Nibblets Dysfunction Cost centers, move out to move up, first on the chopping block in a downturn, treated as lawcucks by the biz units, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141631) |
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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:22 PM Author: Bright Histrionic Office Private Investor To torture you faggots (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49141814) |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 1:35 PM Author: Lake lodge jewess i am late to this thread but i laugh at in house lawyers. yes i am nice to them because my job is a service job, but i make 20x what they do as a successful biglaw equity partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49145617) |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:35 PM Author: Exciting Library You make $10+ million? That is successful! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49146056) |
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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:46 PM Author: Maize Spectacular Elastic Band It is also an outlier. A bunch of start-up CLOs and CLOs at F500s make millions a year too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49146089) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 2:28 PM Author: Kenneth Play weird thread. my conclusion is that it is biglaw lawyers who have the chip on their shoulder, as they refer to inhousemos as burnouts and guys who couldn't hack it, rather than lawyers of equal capability who enjoy a different role. of course i'm former biglaw and current inhouse. sometimes i think about going back for the money, but then i talk to any of my friends in biglaw and think nah, i don't miss that lifestyle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49152981) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 2:39 PM Author: Top 20% IQ MAGA Farm Animal It's not complicated. Do more work, make more money, have more stress and less free time. It has nothing to do with capability other than capability to endure more stress and work. If the compensation were the same nobody would choose to do more work for no reason.
Biglawyers laughing at in house for getting paid less to have more free time and more of a life is strange. The whole you could never be us shtick. It's just a personal choice. Some people choose to live under a bridge. Inhousemos make way more than the average American. And they enjoy a better quality of life. If you are determined to make as much money as possible and work a lot more, that's a choice too. It's a free country. But I have no idea why you would think that makes you so much better than somebody who does the same job for less and has a radically improved work-life balance. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 2:58 PM Author: Kenneth Play (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49153066) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2025 4:44 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49153318) |
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Date: August 4th, 2025 12:33 PM Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,...., Theyre coping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755963&forum_id=2#49155364) |