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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
pink marvelous house queen of the night
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Bat shit crazy glittery tank orchestra pit
  05/29/25
(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
Bat shit crazy glittery tank orchestra pit
  05/29/25
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Bat shit crazy glittery tank orchestra pit
  06/03/25
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Bat shit crazy glittery tank orchestra pit
  06/08/25
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nyuug
  07/01/25
Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Boyish codepig
  05/29/25
Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Lavender parlour factory reset button
  05/29/25
(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Boyish codepig
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Lavender parlour factory reset button
  05/29/25
read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Boyish codepig
  05/29/25
Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
Dunedain cowboy
  07/01/25
what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
fishy coldplay fan
  05/29/25
cq
mahogany godawful church
  05/29/25
I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
jet outnumbered old irish cottage ladyboy
  06/03/25
teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Dunedain cowboy
  07/02/25
i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
black metal rigor mother
  06/08/25
Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
samoth
  07/01/25


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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: pink marvelous house queen of the night

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy glittery tank orchestra pit

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy glittery tank orchestra pit

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy glittery tank orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy glittery tank orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49064860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Boyish codepig

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Lavender parlour factory reset button

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Boyish codepig

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Lavender parlour factory reset button

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Boyish codepig

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Dunedain cowboy (πŸΎπŸ‘£)

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065184)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: fishy coldplay fan

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: mahogany godawful church

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: jet outnumbered old irish cottage ladyboy

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Dunedain cowboy (πŸΎπŸ‘£)

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: black metal rigor mother

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: samoth

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065026)