people are terrified of falling in love
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Date: March 6th, 2026 2:30 PM Author: .... -^^,--,~....
it's really bad out there, no one wants to be vulnerable at all any more, I fear for the future of the human race
as someone who was insulated from dating for the entire span of app dating by being happily married and has now been THRUST into it against my will by an Act of God, it's like I crawled out of a nuclear bunker into a wasteland. it's awful.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721362) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 3:24 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump
gonna need some backstory. how long ago?
i had a similar journey. married first gf ---> divorce ---> in 30s learning to "date" for the first time
but that was all precovid and i'm sure things are even more fucked up now
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721594) |
Date: March 6th, 2026 2:32 PM Author: single dad, no kids
men figured out that women can't and don't unconditionally love them and so they've become justifiably afraid of allowing their own genuine affection to be taken advantage of
a lot of present-day criticism of women is exaggerated but this really is true and there's no way "around it" or way to "fix it." the genie is out of the bottle and it can't be put back in again
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721372) |
Date: March 6th, 2026 2:34 PM Author: spiritually female godfather (gunneratttt)
if not flame, im sorry.
try not to get jaded. thats the ultimate source of all this. its hard to be hopeful when appdating has commodified love, and so many people treat others like a fungible product they can pick up and dispose of like everything else in todays world.
ive known many that wound up very happy because they stayed positive. shit sucks but if you let that change you you become part of why it sucks.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721382) |
Date: March 6th, 2026 3:21 PM Author: michael doodikoff
been posting about this for years. Still trying to keep a "positive" attitude, but its increasingly hard to stay that way. in some ways, for me at least, app dating has gotten a lot worse in the past year+ or so. Like it was always shitty, but kind of the same for years, win some lose some, etc etc, but something changed IME around a little more than a year ago.
I still get similar amounts of "matches," but the % that I am able to meet for an actual date has plummeted and the attention I get from them when we do match has decreased. Sure, I am older etc, maybe that plays into it, but I suspect that the overall culture of this stuff has been ruined and people are figuring this fact out.
If I match with what seems like a genuinely good girl, not piece of shit tramp, etc, I like to talk to them on the phone first and then met them for a date after - I used to get dates 100% of the time with this, and I think it helped them be more comfortable on the first date. But recently a bunch of girls that I had perfectly "fine" phone calls with found excuses to not meet up and ghost. Maybe I have aspergers that I didn't know about, but I tend to get along well with people IRL, including women.
I just got ghosted a couple days ago by a girl that I got along with very well on our date last week - like no indication at all that it went anywhere but positive, etc etc and she just peaced out.
I get the impression from lots of women (both that I meet on these apps, and the tons of single female friends that I know) that they are sick of this whole thing too, and don't really put a lot of faith into it anymore. So the earnest morons like me, who do try to go into dates with good intent, get fucked hard because the women just don't give a fuck anymore and treat all of the guys as disposable turds.
I mean, it was always bad out there, but it is currently the worst I have experienced, you literally can't trust that you will see the person again even after a really good date, kiss, etc.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721583) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 3:32 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,;:.,.:..:.,:,::,.
Sorry bro. I've heard this from other friends. If you're really looking for lifetime companionship and maybe kids someday, you may want to consider dating a couple points below your usual matches. Go for a chubby or even slightly ugly 5-6 and just work with her. She'll be more enthusiastic than the 7-8 types you usually date. If you're already striking out with the 5-6 range then go even lower. I've seen this work because the guys get over their ego of thinking they have to have a beautiful girl despite all the baggage that comes with it and the girls are genuinely thrilled because they feel like they got their handsome prince and they want to hold on to him no matter what.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721631) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 3:40 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump
I'm sure dating is objectively shitty these days but you also have to maintain some level of agency. Lots of poasters have given you lots of advice over the years and you generally ignored it to do your own thing.
>>>I just got ghosted a couple days ago by a girl that I got along with very well on our date last week - like no indication at all that it went anywhere but positive, etc etc and she just peaced out.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you didn't make any kind of real move on her and she "didn't feel a spark." Maybe she didn't say that to you, but "didn't feel a spark" is what she's telling her friends
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721650) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 4:33 PM Author: michael doodikoff
this is how i view things. Very few times am I on first dates where a kiss is even realistically in the cards. I don't want to do the exhausting "kino escalate" on some chick who is already nervous on a first date and its clear that she doesn't want it. I'm a chill dude and frankly just want to get to know that person better on a first date, I'm fine with that.
Unfortunately, a lot of girls that I know openly admit that if they don't have a "fiery attraction" on the first date, they won't go on a second. That "fiery attraction" is kinda hard to generate when you go from zero about knowing someone - also why I like to call them before i go out with them.
Also there is that pesky "Are we dating the same guy" facebook group where girls post dudes and get the tea and bash the hell out of that behavior
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721813) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 4:58 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump
I need to follow up:
>>> I'm a chill dude and frankly just want to get to know that person better on a first date
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WOMEN DO NOT WANT A "GETTING TO KNOW YOU BETTER" DATE? THE BAR YOU NEED TO CLEAR TO KEEP THEIR INTEREST IN MODERN APP DATING IS HIGHER THAN THAT.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721919) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 7:17 PM Author: spiritually female godfather (gunneratttt)
POTUS of the simp crew and avowed woman respector and befriender here.
doodikoff problem seems to be, in part, that he thinks women are nervous lambs and that kissing them (ljl) is presumptuous and aggressive.
the reality is that women, especially the age range doodikoff is dating, want confidence and a little aggression. and they have no problem doing a cheek turn or something if a guy misreads signs and goes for a kiss anyway. but they will 100% dingfag you if you *DONT* go for it.
cant tell you how many shitlib women that have brutally, brutally mocked dates for doing stuff like asking "can i kiss you?" these are the same women that are outwardly the biggest proponents of verbal consent.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49722237) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 7:54 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump
I don't know that kiss or no-kiss even matters that much anymore. What I mean is, lots of these whores will kiss a guy they don't even really like, so it's not necessarily the bar for a second date.
My goal (once I actually knew wtf I was doing), was just to get these bitches back to my place or theirs. The logistics of the date are set up to where it's not a big ask and seems like a natural progression. Whether a kiss occurred prior to that is pretty irrelevant. You're putting yourself in an environment where it's way easier to get the first kiss, things are likely to progress way further than that (far enough to where they actually have some buy-in and are guaranteed to keep seeing you), and 90% of the chicks who aren't interested have already been screened out because they said no (allowing one to operate with more confidence).
Doodikoff's problems are not going to be solved by awkwardly going in for kisses when the date hasn't been calibrated for that to occur.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49722286) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 9:37 PM Author: spiritually female godfather (gunneratttt)
its not about a kiss per se, thats just a laughably minor example and kinda insane a 40 year old dude would think a woman around his age would feel too demure to decline.
the overarching issue from his poast is that he has this (frankly misogynistic if im being an absolute faggot) conception that women are fragile and want some white knight fag. what they want is someone who is assertive and confident. i suspect if doodikoff thinks kissing is too agro he's coming off as lacking confidence. the pre-date phone call is also an example.
if he treated them respectfully like adult women he wouldn't treat them like children. i think doodikoff isn't a beta pussy but just has a poor idea of what women want. his heart is probably in the right place, and i don't think he lacks nerve, its that what he thinks is disrespectful or uncomfortable for women is actually what thry want from the right guy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49722446) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 7:10 PM Author: spiritually female godfather (gunneratttt)
"im a nice guy..."
(wait, isn't that a bad thing? well how do i say the exact same thing without getting made fun of?)
"im a CHILL DUDE..."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49722217) |
Date: March 6th, 2026 3:43 PM Author: Nazca Redlines
What happened to your wife?
Why no kids?
Are you terrified of falling in love? That the dating world is a wasteland in current year doesn't mean you should be terrified of falling it love, even if it might make it unlikely or difficult.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721657) |
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Date: March 6th, 2026 4:40 PM Author: Lab Diamond Dallas Trump
keep in mind that every women you went out with was permanently blown out and probably had severe mental illness and it starts to make a lot more sense. to get a nice, normal woman through an app, these things all have to line up:
-she is newly dating after a history of LTRs
-somehow has no dating prospects in her social circle
-she hasn't been on the app long enough to get P&D or become jaded
-you outcompete the chads who wanted to P&D her
-You get to her before she gets fed up with the app and deletes it
It can be done, but it takes a lot of volume and effort over a period of potentially years for everything to line up just right
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49721844) |
Date: March 6th, 2026 7:14 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,
What happened to your wife?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5842388&forum_id=2#49722224) |
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