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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Fighting elastic band gaping
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Khaki charismatic incel mother
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Khaki charismatic incel mother
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Cruel-hearted fishy theatre depressive
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
domesticated house nowag
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Twisted Massive Menage
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
provocative bespoke range
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Talented School Partner
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Talented School Partner
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Talented School Partner
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
insanely creepy greedy corner
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
sepia brunch
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
Sexy volcanic crater
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Twisted Massive Menage
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Fighting elastic band gaping
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Burgundy self-centered dysfunction gaming laptop
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Razzle-dazzle Gold Community Account
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
Snowy infuriating hell stain
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Fighting elastic band gaping
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
vermilion boltzmann roast beef
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/26/25
...
Charcoal Sticky Market
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
ultramarine stage toaster
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
cerise nubile pistol goyim
  06/26/25
...
overrated aqua rigpig
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
racy office genital piercing
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Aquamarine Beady-eyed Heaven Place Of Business
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
stimulating judgmental filthpig
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Aquamarine Beady-eyed Heaven Place Of Business
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Twisted Massive Menage
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
provocative bespoke range
  06/27/25
...
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Crusty station
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Aquamarine Beady-eyed Heaven Place Of Business
  06/27/25
...
Pontificating histrionic step-uncle's house
  06/27/25
...
Magenta talking candlestick maker
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
stimulating judgmental filthpig
  06/27/25
How is STB?
provocative bespoke range
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Free-loading Irradiated Point Preventive Strike
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Twisted Massive Menage
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
ultramarine stage toaster
  06/27/25
...
big angry principal's office idiot
  06/27/25
...
Twisted Massive Menage
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Fighting elastic band gaping

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Khaki charismatic incel mother

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Khaki charismatic incel mother

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Cruel-hearted fishy theatre depressive

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: domesticated house nowag

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Twisted Massive Menage

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: provocative bespoke range

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Talented School Partner

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Talented School Partner

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Talented School Partner

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: insanely creepy greedy corner

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: sepia brunch

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Sexy volcanic crater

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Twisted Massive Menage

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Fighting elastic band gaping

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Burgundy self-centered dysfunction gaming laptop

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Gold Community Account

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: Snowy infuriating hell stain

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Fighting elastic band gaping

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: vermilion boltzmann roast beef

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Charcoal Sticky Market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: ultramarine stage toaster

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: cerise nubile pistol goyim

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: overrated aqua rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: racy office genital piercing

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Aquamarine Beady-eyed Heaven Place Of Business

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: stimulating judgmental filthpig

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Aquamarine Beady-eyed Heaven Place Of Business

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Twisted Massive Menage

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: provocative bespoke range

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Crusty station

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Aquamarine Beady-eyed Heaven Place Of Business

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Pontificating histrionic step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Magenta talking candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: stimulating judgmental filthpig

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: provocative bespoke range

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Free-loading Irradiated Point Preventive Strike

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Twisted Massive Menage

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: ultramarine stage toaster

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: big angry principal's office idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Twisted Massive Menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)