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ProPublica: The US is responsible for Mexicans being savages
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Date: May 25th, 2021 3:42 PM Author: Bistre tripping brunch Article title:
HOW THE U.S. TRIGGERED A MASSACRE IN MEXICO
Gist:
“ It began in the United States, when the Drug Enforcement Administration scored an unexpected coup. An agent persuaded a high-level Zetas operative to hand over the trackable cellphone identification numbers for two of the cartel’s most wanted kingpins, Miguel Ángel Treviño and his ​brother Omar.
Then the DEA took a gamble. It shared the intelligence with a Mexican federal police unit that has long had problems with leaks — even though its members had been trained and vetted by the DEA. Almost immediately, the Treviños learned they’d been betrayed. The brothers set out to exact vengeance against the presumed snitches, their families and anyone remotely connected to them.” |
Date: May 25th, 2021 4:21 PM Author: Bistre tripping brunch “ No family lost more members than the Garzas. Nearly 20 are believed dead, including 81-year-old Olivia Martínez de la Torre and her 7-month-old great-grandson, Mauricio Espinoza.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42520346) |
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Date: May 25th, 2021 4:25 PM Author: Ocher disgusting orchestra pit legal warrant u gotta link this shit for future reference man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42520363) |
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Date: May 25th, 2021 4:26 PM Author: Bistre tripping brunch https://www.propublica.org/article/allende-zetas-cartel-massacre-and-the-us-dea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42520367) |
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Date: May 25th, 2021 4:59 PM Author: Ocher disgusting orchestra pit legal warrant "DEA did our job to target them and to try to focus and dedicate our resources to put them out of business. We were eventually successful in that regard. Our hearts go out to those families. They’re victims, unfortunately, of the violence perpetrated by the Treviño brothers and the Zetas. But this is not a story where the DEA has blood on its hands."
the mental gymnastics these civil servants use to justify their "work" is crazy |
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Date: May 25th, 2021 5:01 PM Author: Bistre tripping brunch sorry Pedro, the US is not at fault for this shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42520560) |
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Date: May 25th, 2021 5:28 PM Author: galvanic location stock car so the DEA expected mexicans NOT to act like subhuman murderous savages, and the DEA's expectations were wrong? i guess there might be some 'fault' there, kind of, maybe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42520731) |
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Date: May 25th, 2021 11:17 PM Author: Bistre tripping brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42522323) |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:01 AM Author: vigorous office lol imagine the lib rage if conservaheroes did the other thing.
Gov't official: "Oh, we have intel on the cartels, but we can't share it with Mexico because it will just leak and a bunch of people will be murdered."
Media: ***SEVEN DAYS OF OUTRAGE*** |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 8:42 AM Author: Bespoke laser beams If you pick up a snake and it bites you, whose fault is it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42523360) |
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Date: May 25th, 2021 5:02 PM Author: vigorous office lol, would be 180 if they got the numbers some other way and there was no high-level Zetas operative. Then "leak" that there's a rat and let them kill each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42520570) |
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Date: May 25th, 2021 5:06 PM Author: Bistre tripping brunch they just killed a bunch of civilians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42520600) |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:21 AM Author: Fishy Self-absorbed Milk Senate This is almost certainly the real story. Our signals intelligence capabilities are truly unbelievable and the NSA absolutely monitors narco radio traffic.
Basic network analysis could probably find kingpins if you start with few known low level people. Let alone the crazy shit we can do monitoring every form of electronic communications. |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:25 AM Author: Bistre tripping brunch we should start droning narco leaders. no prisoners means no jailbreaks, and Mexican govt can claim deniability and powerlessness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42522663) |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:27 AM Author: vigorous office lol and the USA should just deny everything.
"Oh, weird that the narco leader got blown up. Sorry for your loss. That was a really big explosion, maybe it was a gas leak?" |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:27 AM Author: Bistre tripping brunch I like the cut of your jib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42522681) |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:35 AM Author: crusty cuckoldry dragon Precisely zero chance cartel kingpins have touched a radio transmitter in 30+ years, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42522712) |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:36 AM Author: Bistre tripping brunch the targets had blackberries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42522714) |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:42 AM Author: crusty cuckoldry dragon In which case it was encrypted text messages using one time pads on top of OnionShare and Russian Gost ciphers. Everyone and their mother knows how to avoid the NSA today. US sigint effectively murdered itself with its god level reputation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42522730) |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 1:10 AM Author: vigorous office This is true and flame at the same time.
If you're careful, then for now you can still evade the surveillance capabilities of a state level actor. But the target only has to fuck up one time and inadvertently communicate in a non-secure way, then the whole thing unravels. What's more, the fuck up can also come from some other person messaging them. Narco careers can last decades, and nobody can be perfect every time. Just like sometimes lawfags make a stupid mistake and send a .doc when they meant to send a .pdf or whatever the fuck, a mistake will also inevitably occur in the proximity of the kingpins. It's just a matter of the $ and manpower to actually give things a close look. |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 3:31 AM Author: Fishy Self-absorbed Milk Senate Even if you ignore the fact that unlike Al Queda/Osama Bin Laden, the kingpins are running a geographically distributed supply chain with billions in revenue, there's still tons of ways to identify these people:
- Datamining cell tower connections and usage patterns: "Wow, this subset of phones that frequently connect to towers in the HQ area light up when we raid a major shipment!" - Looking at the IMEIs connecting and scrutinizing make/model/voice or data usage: "Wow, a ton of people in this town use blackberries, i haven't seen one used by a normal person in 10 years!" - Blackberry is suspected to collaborate with friendly governments, even if the cartels are setting up their own enterprise servers. |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:33 AM Author: crusty cuckoldry dragon That would be the Russian way but Yankees are way too dumb for that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42522706) |
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Date: May 26th, 2021 12:33 AM Author: crusty cuckoldry dragon LJL at anyone talking to US intelligence about anything. Yankee agent runners are the most incompetent fucks on the planet. Literal Taliban goat herders ran school on them for 20 years so no shit that the cartels would too. Its because Yankees actually believe in people and institutions — two things which require a room temperature IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#42522703) |
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Date: February 27th, 2026 1:43 PM Author: tancredi marchiolo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4842526&forum_id=2#49699815) |