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Ozempic = devastating for claim that obesity crisis is not from overeating

All these “theories” about why obesity has been ...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
nobody took these "theories" seriously, anyone who...
insane scarlet ceo prole
  07/05/25
There was a big thread maybe two years ago on CICO, I think ...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
did any of them actually lose weight doing anything other th...
insane scarlet ceo prole
  07/05/25
those poasters were all fat or jewish and poisoning the well...
Mildly autistic double fault
  07/05/25
...
Magenta wonderful stead
  07/06/25
It was bizarre. Their main point was that someone might han...
Contagious Sooty Cumskin
  07/05/25
Even if you believe in CICO (you shouldn't), it is still unf...
swollen dilemma potus
  07/05/25
Some people don't have the ability to create the systems and...
Abnormal puce shrine bbw
  07/06/25
i get it, and i'm not disagreeing, but i do want to understa...
Indecent stag film kitty
  07/05/25
So if CICO is all that matters why not just eat only junk fo...
charismatic massive hospital
  07/05/25
How much McDonalds does it take to hit 2k calories? (Less fo...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
You absolutely could. There are other things you might value...
Abnormal puce shrine bbw
  07/06/25
CICO is not real in the sense that human beings do not use h...
orange shitlib
  07/05/25
...
swollen dilemma potus
  07/05/25
"CI" really refers human-metabolized calories, not...
Abnormal puce shrine bbw
  07/06/25
* carbohydrate insulin model
orange shitlib
  07/05/25
Insulin is an exceedingly potent compound. Food, and espe...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
180 and cr
orange shitlib
  07/05/25
CO factor.
Abnormal puce shrine bbw
  07/06/25
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irate zombie-like property
  07/06/25
would not be surprised if long-term use ends up being linked...
Underhanded deer antler
  07/05/25
in a way i think the drug confirms some of the conspiracy th...
Indecent stag film kitty
  07/05/25
i doubt it reaches the level of a conspiracy. it's just food...
Underhanded deer antler
  07/05/25
agreed. but i could see, for example, big ag and consultants...
Indecent stag film kitty
  07/05/25
This is about as revealing as saying that the 1970s energy c...
Diverse unholy national security agency
  07/05/25
Calorie per dollar declined. More cars per capita. Calorie i...
sinister center ape
  07/05/25
> Calorie per dollar declined Obesity is more common i...
Diverse unholy national security agency
  07/05/25
I don’t think higher obesity among the poor discredits...
sinister center ape
  07/05/25
Calories per dollar declined? Or do you mean the exact oppos...
Mind-boggling hyperactive liquid oxygen voyeur
  07/05/25
yea I don't disagree that "people lose weight when they...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
A 100-IQ CICO redditor arguing with an 80-IQ "slow meta...
Diverse unholy national security agency
  07/05/25
is this donny? ozempic proves CICO. sorry your other theorie...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
CICO is true, whether or not ozempic works, and is hardly pr...
Diverse unholy national security agency
  07/05/25
No kidding, all of those things just result in people eating...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
You really have a lot of trouble with proximate and ultimate...
Diverse unholy national security agency
  07/05/25
...
mauve kink-friendly stage jewess
  07/05/25
You really have trouble with rebutting an OP, dont you?
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
That dude already laid it out for you. If you can’t un...
mauve kink-friendly stage jewess
  07/05/25
"No one on this board claimed CICO was false" *...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
"you don't want to be a part of such a midwit debate&qu...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
...
mauve kink-friendly stage jewess
  07/05/25
I don't understand what people taking a drug proves about CI...
swollen dilemma potus
  07/05/25
Ozempic actually just shows that regulating food intake has ...
mauve kink-friendly stage jewess
  07/05/25
This. You can’t really blame fat people for being fat....
maize vibrant alpha
  07/05/25
If only you loved your children enough to take the magical d...
Arousing silver idea he suggested institution
  07/05/25
...
insane scarlet ceo prole
  07/05/25
I'm not going to take that poison. I'd rather just quit eati...
maize vibrant alpha
  07/05/25
You have the biggest ego of any single poster on this board ...
Arousing silver idea he suggested institution
  07/05/25
id rather do something ive demonstrated i have no ability to...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
Do you believe we can't blame an addict for being an addict?...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
I’m turning it all around starting today, brother. Die...
maize vibrant alpha
  07/05/25
lol
canary useless brakes temple
  07/05/25
Diets don't work. You can only achieve your goals with a ...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
how is that inconsistent with CICO being correct
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
No one has ever argued that food consumption doesn’t c...
mauve kink-friendly stage jewess
  07/05/25
Yes people on this very board were arguing that calories in ...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
Lol here you go - is this your thread?: https://autoadmit.co...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
Heres another one dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
I remember when lots of people maintained that smoking cigar...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
yea the idiots itt would tell you that its not smoking that ...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
How fucking old are you?
tantric home pocket flask
  07/05/25
Xennial. Smoking was really big in the '90s, and there wa...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
its harder to go after obesity because it requires temperanc...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
Yeah, that's something that took me a while to realize. I...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
having an obese child should carry the same social stigma as...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
TITCR
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
I sort of see the OP's point, but I think the argument was a...
Territorial sex offender native
  07/05/25
"People don't really eat that stuff anymore" Pe...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
sedantary people can completely isolate themselves in ways t...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
And when one portion of food from 'eating out' fulfills the ...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
just look at your grocery receipt. produce and fresh foods a...
aggressive piazza filthpig
  07/05/25
my only point from the beginning to the end of this thread i...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/05/25
Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO? If...
bateful mood macaca
  07/05/25
"Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO?...
Abnormal puce shrine bbw
  07/06/25
zero people are disagreeing with CICO completely. they're po...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
CICO is idiotic. The body is not a closed energy system and ...
Territorial sex offender native
  07/05/25
it's not idiotic, it's just reductionist. it's both true tha...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
“ and also that there is nuance regarding type of calo...
sinister center ape
  07/05/25
we're engaging in scholarship here, not brainstorming on mar...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
CR the med diet always makes me lol at anti-carbmos
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/06/25
yeah i agree with this take CICO is a signpost or a start t...
Self-absorbed Vigorous Orchestra Pit Lettuce
  07/05/25
cr. the nuance of how different calories are processed by di...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
TBF, a cake or pizza will give you some mind-blowing pumps. ...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
dieters definitely do cheat days. but it's not for pump but ...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
I've never been a fan of IIFYM. Quality matters, but won't m...
Dead Quadroon
  07/05/25
it applies to everyone because we all have human bodies and ...
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/05/25
one cr trick for staying slim popcorn. air pop some popcorn...
Self-absorbed Vigorous Orchestra Pit Lettuce
  07/06/25
Here you go dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread...
Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/06/25
that's a bait thread that a lot of autists took
Brindle Antidepressant Drug
  07/06/25
much worse for the body positivity movement, even Lizzo is g...
Rambunctious Beta Range Dopamine
  07/06/25
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metal lilac school cafeteria rigor
  07/06/25
As someone on one of these (not Ozempic, but Zepbound), let ...
Galvanic Tanning Salon Stock Car
  07/06/25
I lost a huge amount of weight (more than 250 lbs.) and have...
Abnormal puce shrine bbw
  07/06/25
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Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt
  07/06/25
I occasionally use Zyn pouches these days, but not as an app...
Galvanic Tanning Salon Stock Car
  07/07/25
How much do you weigh now? Did you lose 45 pounds simply f...
Tan kitty cat
  07/06/25
Around 225 now, hope to see a 1 on the scale by September. ...
Galvanic Tanning Salon Stock Car
  07/07/25
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  07/06/25


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Date: July 5th, 2025 9:57 AM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

All these “theories” about why obesity has been increasing that point to reasons other than fats overeating and not exercising have been EXPOSED as total lies.

All Ozempic does is make you eat less, and viola, fats lose weight when that happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073715)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: insane scarlet ceo prole

nobody took these "theories" seriously, anyone who lost weight in the history of ever has been preaching CICO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073717)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:05 AM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

There was a big thread maybe two years ago on CICO, I think I started it, where tons of posters were claiming CICO was not real. “Gut bacteria” and other nonsense about why CICO didn’t matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073720)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:21 AM
Author: insane scarlet ceo prole

did any of them actually lose weight doing anything other than CICO? Those poasters are not serious people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073829)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:29 AM
Author: Mildly autistic double fault

those poasters were all fat or jewish and poisoning the well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073839)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:11 AM
Author: Magenta wonderful stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075464)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: Contagious Sooty Cumskin

It was bizarre. Their main point was that someone might handle 2250 differently than 2200. It had nothing to do with 2200 v 3200.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073854)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: swollen dilemma potus

Even if you believe in CICO (you shouldn't), it is still unfeasible for people to try to lose weight with that method. You are basically arguing in favor of restriction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074583)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Abnormal puce shrine bbw

Some people don't have the ability to create the systems and exercise the discipline necessary for some things. The necessary things are still necessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075894)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: Indecent stag film kitty

i get it, and i'm not disagreeing, but i do want to understand this better.

suppose someone argues that CICO is too simple because some calories provoke your body's fullness sensors and some (perhaps processed foods) bypass the sensors.

if that's true, it's consistent with the success of these new drugs, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073972)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: charismatic massive hospital

So if CICO is all that matters why not just eat only junk food all sugar for calories?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073982)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

How much McDonalds does it take to hit 2k calories? (Less for non-active individuals.)

Just because we've engineered foods to be calorie-dense and non-filling doesn't negate CICO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073988)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Abnormal puce shrine bbw

You absolutely could. There are other things you might value, but you could lose weight on that diet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075895)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: orange shitlib

CICO is not real in the sense that human beings do not use heat energy nor can one consume photons. mass in mass out works. eating less chemical energy works. Calories are not an appropriate measure of the energy available to human beings. If it was, coal and lumber would be very fattening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074215)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:39 PM
Author: swollen dilemma potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074592)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Abnormal puce shrine bbw

"CI" really refers human-metabolized calories, not gross. All you're doing is refining CI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075897)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: orange shitlib

* carbohydrate insulin model

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074211)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:54 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

Insulin is an exceedingly potent compound.

Food, and especially sugars, should be viewed as drugs for this reason alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074243)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: orange shitlib

180 and cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074246)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: Abnormal puce shrine bbw

CO factor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075898)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: irate zombie-like property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075473)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: Underhanded deer antler

would not be surprised if long-term use ends up being linked to some cancers, particularly of the pancreas, which are almost always terminal. there are safer ways to suppress your appetite.

although to be fair, "eat less and exercise more" was easier when addictive, calorie-dense foods weren't as common as they are now. don't blame the fats entirely, but give them the majority of the blame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073721)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Indecent stag film kitty

in a way i think the drug confirms some of the conspiracy theories about big ag and US obesity since the 1970s. the drug utterly proves that to some degree it's the body's unconscious assessment of fullness that regulates a lot of weight gain and loss, and it makes sense that big ag would try to produce food that never triggers a fullness response.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073728)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:21 AM
Author: Underhanded deer antler

i doubt it reaches the level of a conspiracy. it's just food companies maximizing profit by making you eat more without regard for your health/weight (after all, they're not responsible for that).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073736)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:39 AM
Author: Indecent stag film kitty

agreed. but i could see, for example, big ag and consultants explicitly, deliberately and discretely working on food production that bypasses your body's fullness sensors. conspiracy in that sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073766)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:35 AM
Author: Diverse unholy national security agency

This is about as revealing as saying that the 1970s energy crisis was due to overuse of gas. You should distinguish between proximate and ultimate causes. Why are people overeating today, when they did not always do this in other calorie-rich environments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073759)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:40 AM
Author: sinister center ape

Calorie per dollar declined. More cars per capita. Calorie in calorie out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073769)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:51 AM
Author: Diverse unholy national security agency

> Calorie per dollar declined

Obesity is more common in poor people

> More cars per capita

Maybe. OP said it was all over-eating

> Calorie in calorie out

The conservation of energy is bedrock. And it is about as explanative for the obesity epidemic as it is for the 1970s energy crisis. You need to learn to distinguish proximate and ultimate causes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073794)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: sinister center ape

I don’t think higher obesity among the poor discredits the cheaper calorie theory. I do agree there are deeper causes but I disagree that any of the explanations debunk CICO or what we know about nutrition and biology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073969)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: Mind-boggling hyperactive liquid oxygen voyeur

Calories per dollar declined? Or do you mean the exact opposite?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074519)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

yea I don't disagree that "people lose weight when they eat fewer calories" is not particularly revealing. but then are people who deny this, and Ozempic has exposed them as frauds. that food is more addictive today is not inconsistent with CICO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073785)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:54 AM
Author: Diverse unholy national security agency

A 100-IQ CICO redditor arguing with an 80-IQ "slow metabolism" tweeter is not a debate that you want to be on *either* side of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073799)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:11 AM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

is this donny? ozempic proves CICO. sorry your other theories about why people are fat have been totally debunked with Ozempic, which only causes people to eat less. that foods have more calories now is besides the point entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073815)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:44 AM
Author: Diverse unholy national security agency

CICO is true, whether or not ozempic works, and is hardly proved by it.

The obesity epidemic, which is new, is not explained by CICO, which has always been true.

In fact, obesity is caused by the historically novel easy availability of nutrition-dense (ie., calorie-dense), easily digestible, and highly-palatable (ie., addictive) foods. Take away any of those three things, and obesity is not as bad. Take them away during childhood, and obesity is not as bad. In the presence of all three, genetic resistance to massive weight gain has historically been the best prophylactic, with "discipline" being rarely effective for more than a 1-2 year time frame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073876)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

No kidding, all of those things just result in people eating more calories.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073889)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: Diverse unholy national security agency

You really have a lot of trouble with proximate and ultimate cause, don't you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073907)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: mauve kink-friendly stage jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073922)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

You really have trouble with rebutting an OP, dont you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073925)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: mauve kink-friendly stage jewess

That dude already laid it out for you. If you can’t understand that’s on you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073950)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:22 PM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

"No one on this board claimed CICO was false"

*links you to multiple threads*

The point of this thread is extremely simple: CICO is not flame, its vey real, and ozempic makes that clear. not really interested in your or donnys jewish sophistry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073956)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

"you don't want to be a part of such a midwit debate"

*joins debate*

what you're saying isn't particularly hard to understand. if someone is too obtuse to understand that's on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073975)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: mauve kink-friendly stage jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073890)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:47 PM
Author: swollen dilemma potus

I don't understand what people taking a drug proves about CICO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074621)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: mauve kink-friendly stage jewess

Ozempic actually just shows that regulating food intake has almost nothing to do with discipline. It’s just that some bodies say they are full earlier than others.

Not a fat but that’s the obvious takeaway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073803)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:06 AM
Author: maize vibrant alpha

This. You can’t really blame fat people for being fat. Some fats just react to stress by overeating and are literally always hungry. Trust me, I know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073808)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: Arousing silver idea he suggested institution

If only you loved your children enough to take the magical drug which makes you not want to eat much!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073810)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: insane scarlet ceo prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073830)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:26 AM
Author: maize vibrant alpha

I'm not going to take that poison. I'd rather just quit eating and climb Teewinot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073836)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Arousing silver idea he suggested institution

You have the biggest ego of any single poster on this board and are willing to kill yourself over it instead of living to see your children graduate. Fucking piece of shit scumbag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073837)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:36 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

id rather do something ive demonstrated i have no ability to do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073979)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:39 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

Do you believe we can't blame an addict for being an addict?

Many people react to stress by consuming dangerous substances and are literally always craving a substance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073986)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: maize vibrant alpha

I’m turning it all around starting today, brother. Diet starts right now. This instant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073987)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: canary useless brakes temple

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074494)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 4:45 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

Diets don't work.

You can only achieve your goals with a true change in how you live your life, from this day to the end.

All the strength you need is inside you, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074500)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:07 AM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

how is that inconsistent with CICO being correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073811)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: mauve kink-friendly stage jewess

No one has ever argued that food consumption doesn’t correlate with weight. If you don’t eat you lose weight.

Ozempic shows these people aren’t necessary overeating…they are eating until they are full just like everyone else.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073887)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 11:57 AM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

Yes people on this very board were arguing that calories in is not the key variable, dumbass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073891)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

Lol here you go - is this your thread?: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&mc=131&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073936)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

Heres another one dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5287916&mc=119&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073938)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

I remember when lots of people maintained that smoking cigarets didn't cause cancer; it was because [insert other reason].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073911)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

yea the idiots itt would tell you that its not smoking that causes cancer. its the fancy packaging,. social pressure, and addictive nicotine that causes you to smoke, and think they made a point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073931)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:17 PM
Author: tantric home pocket flask

How fucking old are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073933)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

Xennial.

Smoking was really big in the '90s, and there was a huge (& successful) anti-smoking push in the '00s.

I really thought they'd go after obesity in the same manner, but, unfortunately, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073949)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:39 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

its harder to go after obesity because it requires temperance in consuming something necessary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073984)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:42 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

Yeah, that's something that took me a while to realize.

I've been in the weightlifting scene since my teens, so the idea of not treating food like a drug is still foreign to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073990)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

having an obese child should carry the same social stigma as allowing your child to smoke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073994)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

TITCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49073995)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Territorial sex offender native

I sort of see the OP's point, but I think the argument was always that our modern society and frankenstein food and microplastics is throwing off our natural digestive process.

I'm not sure how this is "disproved" by the fact that you can your body more in line with its natural chemical state by injecting Gila Monster venom into your stomach.

Moreover, it looks like one big way it works is it physically keeps food in your stomach for longer - which again, suggests (i) hunger is not simply a mental test but has a physical component as well and (ii) the physical component is influenced heavily by hormones.

So I'd challenge the OP, if Gila Monster venom can keep food in your stomach for longer, isn't it possible that food dyes/microplastics/chemical sweeteners/background radiation could have the reverse effect?

My point has always been people started getting super fat in the late 90s early 2000s with super sized McDonald's meals. People don't really eat that stuff anymore, plus more people are exercising than ever, yet (until Ozempic) people are still getting fatter....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074198)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

"People don't really eat that stuff anymore"

People are eating out more than ever, and it's all similarly bad food. Even in grocery stores, real food is a very small part of what they sell.

"more people are exercising than ever"

I think people talk about exercising more than ever, and buy more exercising products/services. ("Look how many steps this screen said I took yesterday!")

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074210)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

sedantary people can completely isolate themselves in ways the couldn't before. wfh job, doordash, and mcu is streaming almost immediately.

if you just walked around your local mainstreet you see fewer fat people than years ago. but obesity is still on the rise. bleak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074220)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

And when one portion of food from 'eating out' fulfills the 1.5k calories needed by a sedentary individual, this is what we see.

I'm adamantly against the concept of walking as exercise, but only because it should be part of everyday life, regardless of one's occupation. How can people live lives where walking is considered exercise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074231)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: aggressive piazza filthpig

just look at your grocery receipt. produce and fresh foods are not taxed and in a separate section. what percentage of your grocery bill is taxed frankenstein food?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074502)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

my only point from the beginning to the end of this thread is that CICO deniers including some on this board are dumb and I've linked several of those threads above.

but its impossible to deny CICO now, because *even if* all these other explanations have any merit, CICO is still king, none of them supersede CICO, and sticking solely with CICO is all that is necessary.

the solution to losing weight, as has now been conclusively proven with ozempic, is just eat less, as ozempic forces you to do. all these other factors dont matter if you just eat less, thats the point. CICO is still king.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074272)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:26 PM
Author: bateful mood macaca

Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO?

If anything ozempic shows humans don’t have free will and thus you can’t attach any moral failure for obesity. What you really want to do is judge obese people for their “choices” , just like generations before you judged addicts, those with mental illness, epileptics, etc.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074556)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: Abnormal puce shrine bbw

"Midwit take, who tf is arguing that hard against CICO?"

Candy Ride

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075900)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

zero people are disagreeing with CICO completely. they're pointing out nuance that makes CICO so reductionist that it's midwit and useless.

it's like you're arguing medicine is stupid because we're mortal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074561)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 7:53 PM
Author: Territorial sex offender native

CICO is idiotic. The body is not a closed energy system and different types of calories are obviously processed very differently. Eating 2,400 calories in steak in one sitting is different than eating 2,400 calories in cake in one sitting which is different than eating 100 calories of soda every hour.

I think xoxo has always been on board with the "eat less, move more" movement in terms of losing weight for an individual.

But I'm sympathetic to the idea that Americans didn't go from being 10% obese to 50% obese simply because people started moving less and eating more - it seems like in the 90s almost everyone was naturally normal looking even if they did eat McDonalds 5 timse a week and never worked out. People then ate tons of sugary cereals and chips and cookies too. Now conversely there's lots of people who eat salads every day and who go to some type of gym a few times a week and are still 30 pounds overweight.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074927)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

it's not idiotic, it's just reductionist. it's both true that you *will* lose weight if you operate at a caloric deficit, and also that there is nuance regarding type of calories consumed, how they're processed, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074940)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: sinister center ape

“ and also that there is nuance regarding type of calories consumed, how they're processed, etc”

The nuance is at best an interesting topic for academics. There’s been far too much emphasis on the types of calories we take in and not anywhere near enough on the simple caloric intake. Check out the recent article on Italian diets. an American dietician would scream at the amount of carbs they consume, and yet, they live long lives and weigh much less. They simply consume less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074953)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

we're engaging in scholarship here, not brainstorming on marketing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074975)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:08 AM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

CR the med diet always makes me lol at anti-carbmos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075455)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: Self-absorbed Vigorous Orchestra Pit Lettuce

yeah i agree with this take

CICO is a signpost or a start to the weight loss conversation but there are plenty of other factors involved beyond it

if you have only one weight loss axiom to go off of though its one of the better ones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074943)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

cr. the nuance of how different calories are processed by different people, psychology of physiology of why and how a person feels hungry, conditioning to becoming accustomed to and satisfied by the most palatable foods, how difficult is it to break that, etc. etc. for fats all of this nuance is fertile ground for excuse making.

"count calories and exercise" works 100% of the time because of thermodynamics. it doesn't matter whether those calories come from cake or kale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49074982)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

TBF, a cake or pizza will give you some mind-blowing pumps.

Do normal people even do cheat days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075001)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:34 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

dieters definitely do cheat days. but it's not for pump but because few former fatties can accept the iron chains of permanent NOICECREAM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075005)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:42 PM
Author: Dead Quadroon

I've never been a fan of IIFYM. Quality matters, but won't make any difference to people who aren't in competitive condition.

Likewise, I think a lot of the 'nuances' mentioned ITT apply to athletes, but not to average middle-age people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075012)



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Date: July 5th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

it applies to everyone because we all have human bodies and consume food and most want to be healthy. and it matters for the sake of it for anyone interested in truth, i.e. autists and nerds.

so yeah for non-athletic normies "count calories, *eat a high quality and balanced diet, and exercise" is cr and most attempts to learn the science behind food just confuse the issue if youre trying to get normies to be healthy.

*eating mcdonalds at a caloric deficit will cause weight loss but is still super unhealthy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075028)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:34 AM
Author: Self-absorbed Vigorous Orchestra Pit Lettuce

one cr trick for staying slim

popcorn. air pop some popcorn, very filling, great fiber content, ok protein, very healthy if you don't slather butter or oil on. i like salt, pepper, and sumac on mine. can gorge yourself on it and still be calorie negative despite all the energy it gives you as a fairly low glycemic index grain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075666)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

Here you go dumbass: https://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5146251&mc=131&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075469)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 5:44 AM
Author: Brindle Antidepressant Drug

that's a bait thread that a lot of autists took

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075670)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 12:22 AM
Author: Rambunctious Beta Range Dopamine

much worse for the body positivity movement, even Lizzo is getting thinner and that balloon was a major focal point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075475)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:11 AM
Author: metal lilac school cafeteria rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075782)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: Galvanic Tanning Salon Stock Car

As someone on one of these (not Ozempic, but Zepbound), let me provide some perspective

1) I am down about 45 lbs since March

2) Obesity is caused by calorie in / calorie out - eating less is the key. Quality of foods is secondary in terms of weight (obviously matters in terms of health, body composition, etc)

3) Ozempic makes you think about food less, and eat less when you do. When I was at my biggest, I would have a nice dinner, go out for drinks with friends, and have shitty food (second dinner) after drinking. I wouldn’t feel “full” after doing this. Now, not only can I physically not do that (because I feel too full), I don’t want to. People who are obese think about food more, usually don’t feel full, and often have emotional feedback loops that lead to overeating. Ozempic stops all of that.

4) Sedentary lifestyle plays a role - but the biggest misconception to me is that Ozempic is something you do instead of working out. If you are fat, and lose a bunch of weight, you actually want to start working out to gain muscle, look better, etc. You are more likely to feel comfortable in a gym instead of self conscious. You respond well to progress. And this is critical, you don’t get hungrier after doing cardio, because you aren’t hungry at all. More widespread adoption of Ozempic will lead to more working out overall, not less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075852)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: Abnormal puce shrine bbw

I lost a huge amount of weight (more than 250 lbs.) and have kept it off for years. I didn't use surgery or drugs, but the rest of that nevertheless rings true to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49075905)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:54 PM
Author: Hairraiser mentally impaired university newt

Did you ever consider doing nicotine to lose weight. It has similar suppression of appetite effects though I am sure not as strong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49077489)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Galvanic Tanning Salon Stock Car

I occasionally use Zyn pouches these days, but not as an appetite suppressant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49078541)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 9:01 PM
Author: Tan kitty cat

How much do you weigh now?

Did you lose 45 pounds simply from not eating as much? Or did you exercise, walk, lift, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49077502)



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Date: July 7th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Galvanic Tanning Salon Stock Car

Around 225 now, hope to see a 1 on the scale by September.

Eating less, plus a lot of exercise - cardio and lifting. I am in Equinox around 5 times a week - two or three cardio days, two or three weight days depending on the week. I try to walk a lot as well. Cardio usually consists of spin or running classes. Sometimes I do a stair master session. Lifting has been with a trainer recently, who closes most sessions with conditioning (assault bike, ski erg, regular erg, elliptical).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49078537)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: excitant hall

unknown pumo, good post

looks legit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5746393&forum_id=2#49077600)