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Hot take: Female Lear Jet pilot was actually good at her job

She fell 25k feet in a minute and was considerably calm give...
a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts
  11/02/26
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bro she wasnt actually falling at 250mph while she was sayin...
Jack Mehoff
  11/02/26
Is 250 a lot of miles per hour to you?
gibberish (?)
  11/02/26
seems like a lot yes
Jack Mehoff
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Anyways, gotta go…
a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts
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depends on whether it was her fault they failed to avoid the...
ferengi
  11/02/26
i thought i read the cell was concerning enough to shut down...
great moniker
  11/02/26
hadn't seen that. agree with OP that nothing we've...
ferengi
  11/02/26
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the fjordsman
  11/02/26
ATC suggests they deviate around it 20 minutes prior to the ...
The FIRE RYAN DAY JUGGERNAUT
  11/02/26
that's right. and she was the official "Navigator&...
the fjordsman
  11/02/26
Wasn’t that what they were discussing? Changing their ...
a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts
  11/02/26
And here's the Box to defend the 20 year old girboss! ...
Gay Grandpa
  11/02/26
CR. This isn’t Sully dealing with a bird strike while...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/02/26
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German shepherd-ish golden w caramel retriever gf
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"actually pretty remarkable when you consider that main...
reluctant uke
  11/02/26
He was referring to vehicle maintenance in Georgia, the stat...
...,....,,........
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the female pilot nay-sayers on xo are quivering incels.
Rickys' Cat
  11/02/26
was she second-in-command when it went down?
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Why did she have the job of talking- is this like police dep...
Gay Grandpa
  11/02/26
retard tell? the co-pilot is the default comunicator
יהוה
  11/02/26
There were many retard tells in this incident
Gay Grandpa
  11/03/26
Wasn't it released that she was the co-pilot and there ...
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Also, given what you know about men vs women, whose idea do ...
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A few month ago they nearly crashed into another plane at Te...
the fjordsman
  11/03/26
OP of the seminal thread on the topic here. I agree, she did...
Paralegal Marandi
  11/03/26
That's right this guy never could have hit the twin tow...
the fjordsman
  11/03/26
Considering he was 55 and flying PJs for $800 per leg I thin...
Paralegal Marandi
  11/03/26
Bakalakadaka Muhammad Jihad, fren!
the fjordsman
  11/03/26
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Brownoid rage pumo
the fjordsman
  11/03/26
She was responsible for monitoring weather and radar. Thus, ...
Midlaw partner Muhammad
  11/03/26


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Date: November 2nd, 2026 2:14 PM
Author: a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts

She fell 25k feet in a minute and was considerably calm given the circumstances the whole time. Her final summation that they were out of time implies she was working for control the whole time.

She also was determined to be a commercial pilot and was doing great career wise for age 20. Freak accident.

Hard to believe she’s not in the top 50th percentile of pilots in similar situations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50222875)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 2:15 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50222885)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 2:16 PM
Author: Jack Mehoff

bro she wasnt actually falling at 250mph while she was saying that stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50222892)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 2:17 PM
Author: gibberish (?)

Is 250 a lot of miles per hour to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50222899)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 2:20 PM
Author: Jack Mehoff

seems like a lot yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50222915)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: ...,....,,........



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50226256)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 2:20 PM
Author: a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts

Anyways, gotta go…

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50222912)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:26 PM
Author: ...,....,,........



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50226258)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 2:16 PM
Author: ferengi

depends on whether it was her fault they failed to avoid the cell that dragged their nose down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50222894)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 2:19 PM
Author: great moniker

i thought i read the cell was concerning enough to shut down airport traffic nearby? if so it seems... somewhat avoidable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50222908)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 2:20 PM
Author: ferengi

hadn't seen that. agree with OP that nothing we've seen so far is damning to her skills as a pilot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50222916)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: the fjordsman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223875)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 3:19 PM
Author: The FIRE RYAN DAY JUGGERNAUT

ATC suggests they deviate around it 20 minutes prior to the crash saying the planned route looks pretty bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223179)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 7:27 PM
Author: the fjordsman

that's right. and she was the official "Navigator" while the pilot concentrated on the controls. the 55 year old pilot is not at fault for flying headlong into a horrible storm. This all falls on the Navigator, a 20 year old woman. Case closed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223878)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: a New York Times analysis of Reddit posts

Wasn’t that what they were discussing? Changing their course and ATC was warning them off certain directions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223169)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 7:37 PM
Author: Gay Grandpa

And here's the Box to defend the 20 year old girboss!

I bet your child wishes you would have defended him, too. Instead what did you do?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223918)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 4:11 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

CR. This isn’t Sully dealing with a bird strike while gliding peacefully. An uncontrolled dive like that would have been physically excruciating.

I’m just referring to her composure, not whatever caused the crash. The lack of remotely high quality theories is interesting (“flew into a thunderstorm” is not in itself an adequate explanation for a hang glider falling out of the sky, let alone a Learjet). A little over half of commercial aviation crashes are pilot error, and that figure is substantially higher for general aviation, which is actually pretty remarkable when you consider that maintenance is *much* worse in GA. (In general, GA is actually a lot more dangerous than people realize.) I get the impression that this setup was kind of midway between GA and the regionals in professionalism but I dunno.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223340)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 7:06 PM
Author: German shepherd-ish golden w caramel retriever gf



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223770)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 8:05 PM
Author: reluctant uke

"actually pretty remarkable when you consider that maintenance is *much* worse in GA"

how does it compare to georgia the country?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223996)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:28 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

He was referring to vehicle maintenance in Georgia, the state, in general.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50226268)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 7:25 PM
Author: Rickys' Cat

the female pilot nay-sayers on xo are quivering incels.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223868)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 7:32 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


was she second-in-command when it went down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223894)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 7:40 PM
Author: Gay Grandpa

Why did she have the job of talking- is this like police departments where every press representative for the department is always a woman?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50223931)



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Date: November 2nd, 2026 8:15 PM
Author: יהוה

retard tell? the co-pilot is the default comunicator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50224025)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:48 AM
Author: Gay Grandpa

There were many retard tells in this incident

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50225032)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 9:03 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,;:,.:,.,.,::,,,,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.,


Wasn't it released that she was the co-pilot and there was a male (55yo) pilot? Given that circumstance, I think the fact that she was even able to relay the information she did while speeding straight down toward the earth was pretty remarkable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50225381)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 9:50 AM
Author: the fjordsman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50225484)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 9:53 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50225498)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 11:24 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,;:,.:,.,.,::,,,,..,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,.,


Also, given what you know about men vs women, whose idea do you think it was to recklessly fly into that storm, which it seems to be consensus was the catastrophic decision here? Think about that Nathan Fielder documentary series. Do you think she felt like she could say otherwise? If she did, do you think he was open-minded or dismissive?

Pisses me off that people were shitting on her just b/c she was on the audio. She showed a ton of bravery here for someone so young despite having a front row view of an unimaginable horror.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50225778)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 11:29 AM
Author: the fjordsman

A few month ago they nearly crashed into another plane at Teterboro.

That captain was all cap deadass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50225798)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 11:26 AM
Author: Paralegal Marandi (Death, death to the IDF!)

OP of the seminal thread on the topic here. I agree, she did fine and I poasted in haste to align with boart standards.

What's REALLY funny is all the mediocre white men here have not accepted yet that the actual pilot was a 55 yo white male from the midwest. They love accountability for everyone but themselves, folks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50225787)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 11:28 AM
Author: the fjordsman

That's right this guy never could have hit the twin towers bang on like Muhammad Atta. Fair point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50225793)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:32 PM
Author: Paralegal Marandi (Death, death to the IDF!)

Considering he was 55 and flying PJs for $800 per leg I think that's probably true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50226283)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:33 PM
Author: the fjordsman

Bakalakadaka Muhammad Jihad, fren!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50226285)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:29 PM
Author: ...,....,,........

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50226272)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:31 PM
Author: the fjordsman

Brownoid rage pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50226277)



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Date: November 3rd, 2026 1:49 PM
Author: Midlaw partner Muhammad

She was responsible for monitoring weather and radar. Thus, directly responsible for not advising navigating around the storm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5917426&forum_id=2#50226343)