Date: October 17th, 2026 4:10 PM Author: laughsome party of the first part
Basically industrial revolution happens and first UK and then others in western Euro become richer on paper but they still had slums and avg person lived shit
Only after WW2 they became richer and developed middle classes and faggy welfare states
Birdshits dont appreciate this, pretend Euro was always soooo rich ljl, London was all slums in early 90s. Wtf do u think haords of Euros fled to US until 1920s?
Date: October 17th, 2026 4:27 PM Author: laughsome party of the first part
nigga, even i wldnt have said this until gpt made me think abt it but it makes perfect sense, in terms of middle class and shit this stuff iddnt exist until post ww2
Date: October 18th, 2026 1:55 PM Author: laughsome party of the first part
noap, it loooted and built europe, original thesis in this thread was that europe didnt get rich for the MASSES until after ww2, it was still enriching itself for the rich before that, benchod. that loot came from india. it was how yale founder afforded founding yale
Date: October 18th, 2026 1:57 PM Author: laughsome party of the first part
this is straight from chatgpt's ass, u questiioning the power of AI?
Meta AI just re-confirmed, eat shit BENCHOD
Yes, if you mean rich as in how regular people live today - secure housing, appliances, meat every day, a car, vacations, kids staying in school into their teens - then yes, that's almost entirely post-WW2.
Western Europe was *relatively* rich compared to the rest of the world long before that, but regular people were poor by any modern standard.
Think of it in three phases:
### 1. Before 1914: The richest region in the world, but most people are still struggling
Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands were the industrial core of the world. GDP per capita was higher than anywhere else.
But for a factory worker, miner, or farmhand in 1900-1930:
- No indoor plumbing or central heating for most
- 60+ hour work weeks, very little safety net if you got sick or old
- Food was like 50-60% of a household budget. Meat was a luxury.
- Most kids left school at 12-14 to work
- You rented one or two rooms, you didn't own a house
So the countries were rich, the masses weren't.
There were improvements between 1870-1914 - real wages did go up, literacy, sanitation - but it was from a very low base.
### 2. 1914-1945: 30 years of catastrophe
WW1, Great Depression, WW2 wiped out most of those gains. In 1945, much of Western Europe was literally poorer than in 1913 in terms of housing, caloric intake, infrastructure. Rationing in the UK lasted until 1954.
### 3. 1945-1973: When it actually becomes mass prosperity
This is what the French call *Les Trente Glorieuses* - the 30 glorious years. This is when regular people get rich.
A few things combined:
**a) The economy finally grew for everyone.** 4-6% growth per year for almost 30 years straight. Full employment. Marshall Plan helped restart trade, but the big driver was internal - rebuilding, electrification, mass production of consumer goods.
**b) The welfare state.** This is the key difference. Post-war governments, both left and right, built systems that didn't really exist before: universal healthcare, state pensions, unemployment insurance, massive public housing, free secondary education and then mass university. So even if your wage was modest, you weren't one accident away from destitution.
**c) Productivity met wages.** Factories making fridges, washing machines, TVs, cars could only make money if regular workers could buy them. So you get this loop: higher productivity -> higher wages -> more consumption -> more productivity.
By 1960 a French or West German worker had a fridge, by 1970 a car and TV, by 1975 an annual paid vacation. That had never been true before.
So your intuition is right:
- Western Europe was *economically dominant* since ~1800
- It was *noticeably better for workers* than 50 years earlier by ~1900-1910
- But it only became *mass affluent* - where a bus driver or secretary lives what we'd recognize as a middle-class life - after 1945, really in the 1950s-60s.
Before that, "middle class" was a small minority. After that, it became the norm.
Date: October 19th, 2026 12:40 PM Author: laughsome party of the first part
ljl birdshits wld regularly lynch niggas in public until 1960s even... most of london and nyc were fking slums at one point even NYC had tenements until 1950s... 80% of amerishits didnt even have toilet in 1920
rofl i made this one up but seems accurate:
In 1920, it is estimated that only about 20% of U.S. homes had indoor plumbing via piped water. The remaining 80% relied on outdoor privies (outhouses), cesspools, or indoor chamber pots that had to be manually emptied.
Date: October 19th, 2026 12:42 PM Author: laughsome party of the first part
its not relative asshole, its civilized and by any metric when 90% of ur ppl were poor living in slums shitting in an outhouse with no running water and not even bathing once a month u wernet civilized, benchod! this is why hoards of ur birsdhit trash fled euro
Date: October 19th, 2026 12:48 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
Your people are still shitting in the streets and bathing with corpses, while our people were shitting in outhouses and chamber pots over a century ago. We were lynching people a hundred years ago while you still have enormous roving rape gangs
Your rage is best when it rubs raw our uncomfortable truths, not when it falls flacid like chocobar
You say white people are brutish and evil. Shouldn't you be on their side when they murder their families?
Dogs are man's "best friend" for a reason. Only disgusting, inhuman people would look at a lizard with lust when they could instead make a dog the object of their affection. It's sick and barbarous to lay with scaled beasts
Date: October 19th, 2026 1:16 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface
I mean, the rape thing is pretty wild. Surprised you took that path (see below). And I agree about the "filthy" shit, but that's why I qualified SERIOUS WESTERN CIVILIZED DOMINANCE with "relatively." Even Western culture was pretty fucked
Date: October 19th, 2026 1:04 PM Author: laughsome party of the first part
lizards have much cleaner boipussies than furking dogs, anyone with a brain knows this. birdshits are sick furkers who dont even take their shoes off going into homes, dont wash their ass with water and they furk dogs instead of lizards and other reptiles