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Mass Effect Andromeda singlehandedly killed a very promising scifi IP

Brutal mismanagement of something that potentially had a lot...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/02/22
https://youtu.be/5b6qH48bslA
Fragrant pale lay
  05/02/22
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Fragrant pale lay
  05/03/22
Huge hype leading up to it, nearly unprecedented for a video...
Glittery apoplectic candlestick maker
  05/02/22
Which is insane given that EA was keenly aware of the develo...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/02/22
EA makes shitty games exclusively ime
slate stead queen of the night
  05/03/22
We're talking about EA as publisher, not as an EA-created st...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/03/22
That’s even worse. They just crack the whip on Nerds. ...
slate stead queen of the night
  05/03/22
Well the games got pretty bad after the release of 2 but up ...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/03/22
But ME1 was exclusive to 360. It MUST be intellectually vaca...
slate stead queen of the night
  05/03/22
You put too much stock in the power of a console over the me...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/03/22
Have you played Earthworm Jim or Mortal Kombat on SNES? Or m...
slate stead queen of the night
  05/03/22
I got a copy of MM64 from the bargain bin at goodwill a few ...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/03/22
What console were the Oddworld games on? Those are the Earth...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/04/22
PS1, shamefully. it became Xbox-exclusive after that haha
slate stead queen of the night
  05/04/22
ME3 actually
exciting hairless partner
  05/02/22
Rightly or wrongly the shitty release got blamed on other fa...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/02/22
the moment-to-moment gameplay in ME3 is the best in the seri...
Gold effete twinkling uncleanness nowag
  05/02/22
This is what I've heard. Supposedly the level of playstyle c...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/02/22
ME3 was fantastic until literally like the final twenty minu...
adventurous violet keepsake machete trailer park
  05/03/22
the DLC is so good too (except Omega which is kind of lame)....
Gold effete twinkling uncleanness nowag
  05/04/22
I read about the fan service party mission thing and found t...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/04/22
the writing in 3 isn't much worse (if at all) than the writi...
Gold effete twinkling uncleanness nowag
  05/04/22
The overarching plot writing in 2 was worse than 1 for sure ...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/04/22
Which killed the franchise They literally had to apologiz...
exciting hairless partner
  05/04/22
games like that get worse as the in-universe stakes get high...
Gaped cruise ship gunner
  05/03/22
2's ending was cool but I'd have liked the main villains to ...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/03/22
libs, women, skin suits etc https://www.reddit.com/r/pcga...
chocolate new version people who are hurt
  05/03/22
Female game developers are occasionally very talented and cr...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/03/22
andromeda didn't deserve the hate it got
galvanic property
  05/04/22
it's definitely not a bad game, just not as good as ME1-3. r...
Charcoal field
  05/04/22
What
Fragrant pale lay
  05/04/22
I enjoy bad games but I couldn't get more than a third throu...
Fragrant pale lay
  05/04/22
Did you enjoy Quest 64
slate stead queen of the night
  05/04/22
...
things from the 90s/00s so ethereal and dreamlike:
  03/08/26


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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:05 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

Brutal mismanagement of something that potentially had a lot of cultural staying power

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44442949)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:18 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

https://youtu.be/5b6qH48bslA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44443103)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:28 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451202)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:06 PM
Author: Glittery apoplectic candlestick maker

Huge hype leading up to it, nearly unprecedented for a video game

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44442959)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:07 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

Which is insane given that EA was keenly aware of the development hell that the game was stuck in

Iirc Bioware pulled dev responsibilities away from their primary studio (to have them work on Dragon Age) while dumping this half finished over-promised pile of shit onto Bioware Montreal, which was a reorganized "finisher" studio known primarily for shovelware at that time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44442976)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:31 PM
Author: slate stead queen of the night

EA makes shitty games exclusively ime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451228)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:33 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

We're talking about EA as publisher, not as an EA-created studio

Bioware was purchased by EA shortly before the ME2 release iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451247)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:35 PM
Author: slate stead queen of the night

That’s even worse. They just crack the whip on Nerds. I’m surprised “BioWare” ever made anything decent if EA owned them. I’ve always stayed away from their games just bc they’re similar to Other Games that already exist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451263)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:43 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

Well the games got pretty bad after the release of 2 but up until then it was still largely (at that time) the studio that brought us Baldur's Gate and KOTOR. The writing for ME was typically interesting and occasionally thought provoking at certain points

The main plot is an enjoyable Space Bond (Craig bond) trek through interesting alien environments that often broach on good executions of high quality high concept scifi. They were pretty good games all in all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451315)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:56 PM
Author: slate stead queen of the night

But ME1 was exclusive to 360. It MUST be intellectually vacant imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451398)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:58 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

You put too much stock in the power of a console over the media put into it

Unless it physically can't render the text necessary for it, good storytelling and writing can be found on most consoles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451410)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:03 PM
Author: slate stead queen of the night

Have you played Earthworm Jim or Mortal Kombat on SNES? Or mega man 64? It just feels wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451429)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:20 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

I got a copy of MM64 from the bargain bin at goodwill a few months back and ended up playing it late one night

Extremely intense game, almost veers into a Glover or Nights into Dreams dreamscape experience at times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451538)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:29 AM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

What console were the Oddworld games on? Those are the Earthworm Jims of whatever that box was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452198)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 6:17 AM
Author: slate stead queen of the night

PS1, shamefully. it became Xbox-exclusive after that haha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452610)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:08 PM
Author: exciting hairless partner

ME3 actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44442984)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:11 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

Rightly or wrongly the shitty release got blamed on other factors and a series as popular and involved as ME gets a mulligan, for better or for worse. I also heard that the multiplayer in 3 was a lot of fun

Andromeda was the point of no return; people basically stopped talking about the franchise entirely after that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44443019)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:12 PM
Author: Gold effete twinkling uncleanness nowag

the moment-to-moment gameplay in ME3 is the best in the series by a long shot, and still holds up well today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44443032)



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Date: May 2nd, 2022 9:15 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

This is what I've heard. Supposedly the level of playstyle customization in 3's MP was good

Unfortunately the gameplay in these is Gears of War c. 2008 derivative stuff imo and a franchise like this lives or dies on the strength of its storytelling, which Andromeda completely failed on every level from world building down to basic dialogue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44443062)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 10:37 PM
Author: adventurous violet keepsake machete trailer park

ME3 was fantastic until literally like the final twenty minutes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451277)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:02 AM
Author: Gold effete twinkling uncleanness nowag

the DLC is so good too (except Omega which is kind of lame). I love the mining asteroid mission so much, incredible atmosphere

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452111)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:13 AM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

I read about the fan service party mission thing and found the dialogue in it cringe enough to not want to give it a shot

There was a yuge drop in writing quality between two and three---EA supposedly stuffed some unqualified women in somewhere and Bioware hired a few cowgog AVGN fat guys of their own to muck things up

Iirc this was around the time we started seeing the stuff we now know (and still don't understand) as Gamergate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452157)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:22 AM
Author: Gold effete twinkling uncleanness nowag

the writing in 3 isn't much worse (if at all) than the writing in 2. the loyalty missions in 2 seem good at first but it's incredibly stupid that nearly all of them boil down to "fix this guy's daddy issues". 2 is the worst game in the trilogy overall on a mechanical level too, just an absolute slog on higher difficulties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452181)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:27 AM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

The overarching plot writing in 2 was worse than 1 for sure but I thought that the dialogue much better than 1s. Lol I know what you mean, I think they used that 2-3 times throughout

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452192)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 9:21 AM
Author: exciting hairless partner

Which killed the franchise

They literally had to apologize for how bad the ending was and release a DLC to try and fix it and the creative director stepped down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44453047)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:04 PM
Author: Gaped cruise ship gunner

games like that get worse as the in-universe stakes get higher

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451435)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:18 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

2's ending was cool but I'd have liked the main villains to be something other than the robot harvesters and instead focus on character development more throughout instead of spending so much time hyping an already revealed threat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451526)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:10 PM
Author: chocolate new version people who are hurt

libs, women, skin suits etc

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/6067ku/bioware_statement_on_mass_effect_andromeda_lead/



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451471)



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Date: May 3rd, 2022 11:14 PM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

Female game developers are occasionally very talented and creative tbf

Jason Schreier did a very good article for Kotaku that laid out where the different elements of this game all went wrong: https://kotaku.com/the-story-behind-mass-effect-andromedas-troubled-five-1795886428/amp

His politics are spotty but he's still a 174 journalist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44451501)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:54 AM
Author: galvanic property

andromeda didn't deserve the hate it got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452259)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 1:59 AM
Author: Charcoal field

it's definitely not a bad game, just not as good as ME1-3. reasonably enjoyable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452269)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 2:04 AM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

What

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452279)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 2:04 AM
Author: Fragrant pale lay

I enjoy bad games but I couldn't get more than a third through this one

Obtuse, poorly designed crafting, atrocious dialogue, poorly conceived and written main characters, obnoxious quests and quest systems, etc. Company members leaking stuff to the press or forums that showed that so and so was aware of the state of the game pre-launch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452278)



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Date: May 4th, 2022 6:18 AM
Author: slate stead queen of the night

Did you enjoy Quest 64

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#44452611)



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Date: March 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: things from the 90s/00s so ethereal and dreamlike:



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5099534&forum_id=2#49726959)