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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Lime kitchen
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
khaki arousing shrine
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
khaki arousing shrine
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Copper soul-stirring doctorate nibblets
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
Cordovan Useless Candlestick Maker
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
Gold quadroon filthpig
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
Misanthropic aphrodisiac property weed whacker
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Chocolate community account brunch
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Chocolate community account brunch
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Chocolate community account brunch
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Aggressive Concupiscible Indirect Expression
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Rose Trailer Park Windowlicker
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
vermilion razzmatazz range cuckoldry
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
Gold quadroon filthpig
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Lime kitchen
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
razzle cruise ship
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
clear son of senegal
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
metal hairless location
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Lime kitchen
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
Motley snowy boiling water
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/26/25
...
Tan glittery digit ratio
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
angry shivering native
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Spectacular philosopher-king
  06/26/25
...
federal jew azn
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
Pungent turquoise spot
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
ultramarine gas station
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Floppy Business Firm Dog Poop
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
ultramarine gas station
  06/27/25
How was penn?
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
Gold quadroon filthpig
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
Misanthropic aphrodisiac property weed whacker
  06/27/25
...
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Fishy adventurous toilet seat hell
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
ultramarine gas station
  06/27/25
...
ocher stimulating address
  06/27/25
...
maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Floppy Business Firm Dog Poop
  06/27/25
How is STB?
Misanthropic aphrodisiac property weed whacker
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Carmine disturbing new version incel
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
Gold quadroon filthpig
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
angry shivering native
  06/27/25
...
erotic set
  06/27/25
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Gold quadroon filthpig
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Lime kitchen

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: khaki arousing shrine

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: khaki arousing shrine

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Copper soul-stirring doctorate nibblets

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: Cordovan Useless Candlestick Maker

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: Gold quadroon filthpig

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: Misanthropic aphrodisiac property weed whacker

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Chocolate community account brunch

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Chocolate community account brunch

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Chocolate community account brunch

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Aggressive Concupiscible Indirect Expression

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Rose Trailer Park Windowlicker

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: vermilion razzmatazz range cuckoldry

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: Gold quadroon filthpig

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Lime kitchen

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: razzle cruise ship

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: clear son of senegal

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: metal hairless location

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Lime kitchen

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: Motley snowy boiling water

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Tan glittery digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: angry shivering native

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Spectacular philosopher-king

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: federal jew azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: Pungent turquoise spot

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: ultramarine gas station

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Floppy Business Firm Dog Poop

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: ultramarine gas station

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: Gold quadroon filthpig

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Misanthropic aphrodisiac property weed whacker

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Fishy adventurous toilet seat hell

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: ultramarine gas station

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: ocher stimulating address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: maroon vibrant electric furnace police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Floppy Business Firm Dog Poop

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Misanthropic aphrodisiac property weed whacker

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Carmine disturbing new version incel

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Gold quadroon filthpig

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: angry shivering native

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: erotic set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Gold quadroon filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)