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Juneteenth is like a horrible tattoo someone got while wasted

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brilliant theater
  06/19/25
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Carmine Exhilarant Goal In Life Stag Film
  06/19/25
It was done while the country was delirious. It sucks and mo...
brilliant theater
  06/19/25
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Wine impertinent set ceo
  06/20/25
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racy brunch
  06/20/25
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Clear party of the first part kitchen
  06/20/25
why do you care about the reason you are given an extra day ...
lime bawdyhouse
  06/19/25
Nobody that matters got a day off, including me.
Carmine Exhilarant Goal In Life Stag Film
  06/19/25
if you don't get the day off, why do you care that others do...
lime bawdyhouse
  06/19/25
hey nigger, did we say u could talk? u wanna be lynched, boy...
hyperactive slippery den
  06/20/25
(telephone tough guy)
lime bawdyhouse
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magical philosopher-king heaven
  06/19/25
Credited as fuck
hyperactive slippery den
  06/20/25
Nope sorry it sucks and isn't a real holiday but things are ...
brilliant theater
  06/19/25
this is dumb. if you lived somewhere that (most) people got ...
lime bawdyhouse
  06/19/25
Where do most people get Columbus Day off? We don't need ano...
brilliant theater
  06/19/25
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/10/05/working-o...
lime bawdyhouse
  06/19/25
So three states and it was renamed to something woke and stu...
brilliant theater
  06/19/25
not sure what you are talking about. Look at the chart tile...
lime bawdyhouse
  06/19/25
You're an idiot
brilliant theater
  06/19/25
explain
lime bawdyhouse
  06/19/25
Interesting point. Very fake "holiday," even more...
Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease
  06/19/25
This fucking guy. And the mulignans already had MLK day, ...
out-of-control site
  06/19/25
(racist guido)
Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease
  06/19/25
Mlk was actually a repurpose of Lincoln's birthday which was...
Chestnut national security agency
  06/20/25
Italians fucking love Columbus Day. It’s like 75% of w...
Drunken quadroon
  06/19/25
i did for a very long time. the parades in the North End wer...
lime bawdyhouse
  06/19/25
I got the day off, but as a racist, I would rather have work...
exciting know-it-all crackhouse striped hyena
  06/19/25
i can respect this response because it's honest
lime bawdyhouse
  06/19/25
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Indecent razzle knife twinkling uncleanness
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Stimulating gas station
  06/20/25
WHAT'S THE MATTER GOY, DON'T LIKE YOUR SLOP?
out-of-control site
  06/19/25
just do every day is a national holiday w mandatory time off...
floppy idiotic incel clown
  06/20/25
Look, there are eleven federal holidays. Don't you think it...
Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease
  06/19/25
blacks contributed only 0.01% to America, that like a 5 minu...
Carmine Exhilarant Goal In Life Stag Film
  06/19/25
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buff church building
  06/19/25
Sorry shitcon, we're also making Rosa Parks Day a federal ho...
Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease
  06/19/25
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Violent trailer park
  06/19/25
I don't agree with that but they already have a day and a mo...
brilliant theater
  06/19/25
Give them the day after the Superbowl for their contribution...
magical philosopher-king heaven
  06/19/25
Sounds just about right. Blacks make up 14% of America where...
mentally impaired stage
  06/20/25
Literally no one had ever heard of this "holiday" ...
Stimulating gas station
  06/19/25
I had, FYI
Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease
  06/19/25
Juneteenth has been a state holiday recognized by the State ...
180 Gaming Laptop Space
  06/20/25
tbf, it's a better holiday than MLK Day. MLK has been neuter...
Diverse mad-dog skullcap
  06/19/25
Don't care about any of this but a holiday in June is much b...
out-of-control site
  06/19/25
It's not a real holiday it's a rotating Columbus Day for the...
brilliant theater
  06/19/25
It was dumb not to make it the third Monday in June. At leas...
unholy cracking address deer antler
  06/19/25
No one gets it off
brilliant theater
  06/19/25
Stock market was closed!
unholy cracking address deer antler
  06/19/25
(evan39's alt)
Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease
  06/20/25
All the summer programs had today as an off day. Going to g...
Pea-brained Base New Version
  06/19/25
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demanding crimson son of senegal national
  06/19/25
I just call it summer Kwanzaa
spectacular yarmulke
  06/20/25
it's a reminder that the COVID summer of floyd actually happ...
racy brunch
  06/20/25
You supported prosecuting Chauvin and took the vax.
magical philosopher-king heaven
  06/20/25
i did not support prosecuting chauvin you retard
racy brunch
  06/21/25
Vax?
magical philosopher-king heaven
  06/21/25
jabbed
racy brunch
  06/21/25
I enjoyed the day off. It was great. If the issue that i...
honey-headed low-t nursing home
  06/20/25
Tcr. These ‘people’ would have everyone working ...
contagious pearly abode
  06/20/25
Giving people off on New Year's Day is really stupid. Christ...
magical philosopher-king heaven
  06/20/25
Do you work at the post office? A rotating Columbus Day that...
brilliant theater
  06/20/25
We have way too many holidays. Get rid of everything but 4th...
magical philosopher-king heaven
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cocky big office
  06/20/25
Its a day off work. Who gives a fuck the reason? Its the ...
Provocative Peach Indian Lodge
  06/20/25
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Date: June 19th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: brilliant theater



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Date: June 19th, 2025 7:57 PM
Author: Carmine Exhilarant Goal In Life Stag Film

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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:01 PM
Author: brilliant theater

It was done while the country was delirious. It sucks and most people don't know what it's supposed to be but they have to politely pretend it's good. We're stuck with it for now because it would be a mess to remove

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033400)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 1:59 AM
Author: Wine impertinent set ceo



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: racy brunch



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Date: June 20th, 2025 4:14 PM
Author: Clear party of the first part kitchen



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:02 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

why do you care about the reason you are given an extra day off? i personally don't have the day off but i wouldn't fucking question it if i did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033405)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Carmine Exhilarant Goal In Life Stag Film

Nobody that matters got a day off, including me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033424)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

if you don't get the day off, why do you care that others do? are you some kind of hall monitor narc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033443)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:01 AM
Author: hyperactive slippery den

hey nigger, did we say u could talk? u wanna be lynched, boy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034073)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:18 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

(telephone tough guy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035237)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:34 PM
Author: magical philosopher-king heaven



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:00 AM
Author: hyperactive slippery den

Credited as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034071)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: brilliant theater

Nope sorry it sucks and isn't a real holiday but things are closed, great job libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033425)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:16 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

this is dumb. if you lived somewhere that (most) people got Columbus day off, would you question it? Columbus day is as fake as they come. Italians don't give a shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033438)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: brilliant theater

Where do most people get Columbus Day off? We don't need another Columbus Day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033446)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/10/05/working-on-columbus-day-or-indigenous-peoples-day-it-depends-on-where-your-job-is/#:~:text=Since%20then%2C%20several%20states%20have,it%20as%20an%20official%20holiday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033455)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:20 PM
Author: brilliant theater

So three states and it was renamed to something woke and stupid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033464)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

not sure what you are talking about. Look at the chart tiled "Where state workers have the second Monday in October off"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033468)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:23 PM
Author: brilliant theater

You're an idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033474)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:52 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033550)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease

Interesting point. Very fake "holiday," even more fake than Juneteenth when you think about it. And there's way fewer "Italians" here than Blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033453)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:20 PM
Author: out-of-control site

This fucking guy.

And the mulignans already had MLK day, why do they need TWO days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033643)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:21 PM
Author: Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease

(racist guido)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033648)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: Chestnut national security agency

Mlk was actually a repurpose of Lincoln's birthday which was the previous 'black' holiday. When they added mlk they combined Lincoln and Washington into presidents day. Zero additional days off given.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035389)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: Drunken quadroon

Italians fucking love Columbus Day. It’s like 75% of what St. Patrick’s day is to the Irish. Do you live on the Acela between Baltimore and Boston?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033473)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

i did for a very long time. the parades in the North End were no grander than the hangouts / cookouts I see in my very African American heavy Bay Area town now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033532)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: exciting know-it-all crackhouse striped hyena

I got the day off, but as a racist, I would rather have worked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033430)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:17 PM
Author: lime bawdyhouse

i can respect this response because it's honest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033444)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:12 PM
Author: Indecent razzle knife twinkling uncleanness



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:01 AM
Author: Carnelian Lodge Puppy



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: slimy aromatic forum hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035245)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:22 PM
Author: Wonderful spruce mexican native

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033470)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 1:59 AM
Author: Stimulating gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034068)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: out-of-control site

WHAT'S THE MATTER GOY, DON'T LIKE YOUR SLOP?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033636)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 3:24 PM
Author: floppy idiotic incel clown

just do every day is a national holiday w mandatory time off for workers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035401)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:12 PM
Author: Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease

Look, there are eleven federal holidays. Don't you think it's fair that 18% of them should be dedicated to honoring the contributions of Black Americans to our society?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033428)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:15 PM
Author: Carmine Exhilarant Goal In Life Stag Film

blacks contributed only 0.01% to America, that like a 5 minute observance per year, not a whole day, lib.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033436)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: buff church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033450)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease

Sorry shitcon, we're also making Rosa Parks Day a federal holiday as soon as Drumpf is dead: https://sewell.house.gov/2025/2/reps-sewell-beatty-and-figures-introduce-bill-to-create-new-federal-holiday-commemorating-the-historic-arrest-of-rosa-parks#:~:text=While%20several%20states%20have%20adopted,Rep.

Then we'll be at about the right balance of 25% of holidays devoted to Black Americans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033466)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: Violent trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033543)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:21 PM
Author: brilliant theater

I don't agree with that but they already have a day and a month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033467)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:53 PM
Author: magical philosopher-king heaven

Give them the day after the Superbowl for their contributions to athletics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033713)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: mentally impaired stage

Sounds just about right. Blacks make up 14% of America whereas Christians make up 62%, so it makes sense that Blacks should get twice as many holidays as Christians on account of their outsized contributions to society. It was especially critical to give them their own dedicated independence day two weeks prior to the preexisting independence holiday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035532)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: Stimulating gas station

Literally no one had ever heard of this "holiday" until June 2020.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033515)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease

I had, FYI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033530)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: 180 Gaming Laptop Space

Juneteenth has been a state holiday recognized by the State of Texas since 1980.

Ralph Ellison's posthumously published novel Juneteenth was published in 1999.

So people had heard of this concept before 2020.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034701)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 PM
Author: Diverse mad-dog skullcap

tbf, it's a better holiday than MLK Day. MLK has been neutered because he said blacks should be judged by the content of their character rather than by the color of their skin. that's so much anathema to libs today.

otoh, the day it's announced that slavery ended? that's a fucking party right there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033540)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: out-of-control site

Don't care about any of this but a holiday in June is much better than a second holiday in January.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033649)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: brilliant theater

It's not a real holiday it's a rotating Columbus Day for the post office and banks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033657)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:23 PM
Author: unholy cracking address deer antler

It was dumb not to make it the third Monday in June. At least it’s on a Friday next next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033662)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: brilliant theater

No one gets it off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033666)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: unholy cracking address deer antler

Stock market was closed!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033674)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: Rebellious Deranged Mad Cow Disease

(evan39's alt)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035692)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Pea-brained Base New Version

All the summer programs had today as an off day. Going to get my work to change our holiday schedule so that it lines up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033781)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 11:57 PM
Author: demanding crimson son of senegal national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49033943)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:17 AM
Author: spectacular yarmulke

I just call it summer Kwanzaa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034698)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:19 AM
Author: racy brunch

it's a reminder that the COVID summer of floyd actually happened. and that's important.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034699)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: magical philosopher-king heaven

You supported prosecuting Chauvin and took the vax.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035183)



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Date: June 21st, 2025 10:29 AM
Author: racy brunch

i did not support prosecuting chauvin you retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49037176)



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Date: June 21st, 2025 5:48 PM
Author: magical philosopher-king heaven

Vax?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49037985)



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Date: June 21st, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: racy brunch

jabbed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49038038)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: honey-headed low-t nursing home

I enjoyed the day off. It was great.

If the issue that it should be called something else or should be in honor of something else, fine whatev. I agree. But America needs more paid holidays not less. I'd rather have a national "We Love Jews/Blacks/Women" holiday than not have one.

The only people bothered by this are capital-owning kikes and their gentile bootlickers. They can get fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49034712)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 1:49 PM
Author: contagious pearly abode

Tcr. These ‘people’ would have everyone working Christmas and New Year’s if they thought they could get away with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035131)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: magical philosopher-king heaven

Giving people off on New Year's Day is really stupid. Christmas was a week ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035204)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: brilliant theater

Do you work at the post office? A rotating Columbus Day that no one actually gets off that was created in response to mass hysteria is stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035194)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 2:07 PM
Author: magical philosopher-king heaven

We have way too many holidays. Get rid of everything but 4th of July, Thanksgiving, and Christmas. A single holiday fucks up a month for getting work done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740639&forum_id=2#49035198)



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Date: June 20th, 2025 1:11 PM
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Its a day off work. Who gives a fuck the reason?

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