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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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Passionate lodge
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Navy Temple
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
silver mildly autistic den nowag
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Navy Temple
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
silver mildly autistic den nowag
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
dull library mad cow disease
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
drunken toilet seat market
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Navy Temple
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
sapphire institution antidepressant drug
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
swashbuckling selfie senate
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
Coiffed State
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Navy Temple
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
Coiffed State
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
Coiffed State
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Navy Temple
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
Splenetic tanning salon place of business
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Navy Temple
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Navy Temple
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Navy Temple
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
beta appetizing faggot firefighter home
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
translucent stimulating heaven boiling water
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
sapphire institution antidepressant drug
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Navy Temple
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
Passionate lodge
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Navy Temple
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
Domesticated community account elastic band
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Sienna insane stage
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
diverse ultramarine messiness
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
Passionate lodge
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
sticky rigor
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Navy Temple
  06/26/25
...
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  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
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  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
Razzle misunderstood dingle berry
  06/26/25
...
Mustard Point
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
adventurous awkward mother
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
Harsh Topaz Box Office Wagecucks
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Haunting soul-stirring persian
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Navy Temple
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
Harsh Topaz Box Office Wagecucks
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Navy Temple
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
sapphire institution antidepressant drug
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
swashbuckling selfie senate
  06/27/25
...
Navy Temple
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Curious abode kitty
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
Harsh Topaz Box Office Wagecucks
  06/27/25
...
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  06/27/25
...
Navy Temple
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Haunting soul-stirring persian
  06/27/25
How is STB?
swashbuckling selfie senate
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
Aphrodisiac Free-loading Business Firm Generalized Bond
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
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  06/27/25
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Passionate lodge

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Navy Temple

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: silver mildly autistic den nowag

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Navy Temple

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: silver mildly autistic den nowag

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: dull library mad cow disease

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: drunken toilet seat market

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Navy Temple

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: sapphire institution antidepressant drug

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: swashbuckling selfie senate

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: Coiffed State

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Navy Temple

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Coiffed State

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Coiffed State

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Navy Temple

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: Splenetic tanning salon place of business

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Navy Temple

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Navy Temple

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Navy Temple

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: beta appetizing faggot firefighter home

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: translucent stimulating heaven boiling water

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: sapphire institution antidepressant drug

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Navy Temple

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Passionate lodge

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Navy Temple

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: Domesticated community account elastic band

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Sienna insane stage

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: diverse ultramarine messiness

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Passionate lodge

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: sticky rigor

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Navy Temple

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Galvanic Lime Stag Film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: ebony comical bbw

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: Razzle misunderstood dingle berry

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Mustard Point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: adventurous awkward mother

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: Harsh Topaz Box Office Wagecucks

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Haunting soul-stirring persian

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Navy Temple

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: Harsh Topaz Box Office Wagecucks

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Navy Temple

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: sapphire institution antidepressant drug

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: swashbuckling selfie senate

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Navy Temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Curious abode kitty

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: Harsh Topaz Box Office Wagecucks

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: coral travel guidebook giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Navy Temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Haunting soul-stirring persian

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: swashbuckling selfie senate

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Free-loading Business Firm Generalized Bond

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: sapphire institution antidepressant drug

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: ebony comical bbw

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: electric godawful skinny woman dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: sapphire institution antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)