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Kirkland V5 SECURE; Milbank V10 SECURE; Gibson DUNN HERE (V11)

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passionate juggernaut senate
  06/26/25
how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over ...
Purple sandwich tank
  06/26/25
The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number on...
Bateful flushed nowag indian lodge
  06/26/25
cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely ...
Purple sandwich tank
  06/26/25
They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They&rs...
Bateful flushed nowag indian lodge
  06/26/25
the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failur...
Titillating rose indirect expression
  06/26/25
Because 20 years is a long fucking time?
impertinent lavender idea he suggested den
  06/27/25
still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years
Purple sandwich tank
  06/27/25
its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better ...
floppy round eye
  06/27/25
CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thin...
mauve self-centered meetinghouse toilet seat
  06/27/25
You're stuck in 2005.
brilliant market idiot
  06/27/25
so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way
Purple sandwich tank
  06/27/25
not disagreeing there ....
brilliant market idiot
  06/27/25
Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 ye...
brilliant market idiot
  06/27/25
wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke
Purple sandwich tank
  06/26/25
Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?
light marvelous marketing idea trailer park
  06/26/25
rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme ...
Purple sandwich tank
  06/26/25
and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli is this spaceporn's firm?
Purple sandwich tank
  06/26/25
wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP
Purple sandwich tank
  06/26/25
Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied ...
Topaz Stock Car Hospital
  06/27/25
180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via ass...
apoplectic background story hall
  06/26/25
Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble
floppy round eye
  06/26/25
At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life ve...
Purple sandwich tank
  06/26/25
You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you...
passionate juggernaut senate
  06/26/25
Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 off...
Purple sandwich tank
  06/26/25
Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for ...
cyan piazza new version
  06/27/25
lol cr, very chill happy bros
Charismatic set partner
  06/27/25
I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the ...
spruce insane kitty station
  06/27/25
polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama
passionate juggernaut senate
  06/27/25
wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?
glittery grizzly ticket booth gaping
  06/26/25
where is _._. ______ law? should be top 100 after the pen...
Purple sandwich tank
  06/26/25
...
Exciting goal in life resort
  06/26/25
messenger bag logo facing OUT
Laughsome crackhouse old irish cottage
  06/26/25
My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot
judgmental deep hell tattoo
  06/26/25
...
Magenta candlestick maker
  06/27/25
Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?
ivory hairraiser codepig water buffalo
  06/27/25
What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranki...
pontificating vermilion becky crotch
  06/27/25
(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made ...
Dull aphrodisiac filthpig sanctuary
  06/27/25
relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings. (ask...
Purple sandwich tank
  06/27/25
I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them: ...
pontificating vermilion becky crotch
  06/27/25
How was penn?
Purple sandwich tank
  06/27/25
(jerry sandusky tp)
floppy round eye
  06/27/25
I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy i...
mauve self-centered meetinghouse toilet seat
  06/27/25
...
Purple sandwich tank
  06/27/25
I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus her...
Aromatic buff gas station
  06/27/25
Clever Weil-bro post
pontificating vermilion becky crotch
  06/27/25
...
Crusty turquoise library famous landscape painting
  06/27/25
...
Purple sandwich tank
  06/27/25
True although STB is SPS now
Dull aphrodisiac filthpig sanctuary
  06/27/25
How is STB?
mauve self-centered meetinghouse toilet seat
  06/27/25
Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??
180 Pit International Law Enforcement Agency
  06/27/25
YOURE A PARTNER
floppy round eye
  06/27/25
Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business ...
Laughsome crackhouse old irish cottage
  06/27/25
...
spectacular base
  06/27/25
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floppy round eye
  06/27/25


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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: passionate juggernaut senate

https://vault.com/best-companies-to-work-for/law/top-100-law-firms-rankings

#1

Cravath, Swaine & Moore LLP

#2

Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz

#3

Skadden

#4

Latham & Watkins

#5

Kirkland & Ellis

#6

Sullivan & Cromwell LLP

#7

Davis Polk & Wardwell LLP

#8

Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP

#9

Milbank LLP

#10

Simpson Thacher

#11

Gibson Dunn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052006)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

how did S&C, DPW and STB all slip out of the top 5 over the past 20 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052012)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Bateful flushed nowag indian lodge

The real question is how on earth is Cravath still number one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052822)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

cq. and how did skadden go from long-time top 2-3 to barely in the top 5 (perhaps sometimes out?) to back to solid top 3?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052832)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:48 PM
Author: Bateful flushed nowag indian lodge

They must be bribing people or have some other scam. They’ve been losing partners/business for ages.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052838)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:50 PM
Author: Titillating rose indirect expression

the same way any giants slip. lack of innovation and failure to adjust to modernity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052842)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:41 AM
Author: impertinent lavender idea he suggested den

Because 20 years is a long fucking time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053272)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:52 AM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

still. those firms were in the top 5 for 100 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053413)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: floppy round eye

its still flame. no one thinks kirkland or latham is better than s&c or dpw. skadden perhaps has a case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053456)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: mauve self-centered meetinghouse toilet seat

CR. This whole “Kirkland is an elite firm” thing is rancid flame. Place is full of UIUC grads.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053468)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: brilliant market idiot

You're stuck in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054437)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

so is xoxohth.com . it was better that way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054461)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:34 PM
Author: brilliant market idiot

not disagreeing there ....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054462)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: brilliant market idiot

Yes they do. Things have changed a lot in the past 10-15 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054440)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:46 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

wtf is a #73 Troutman Pepper Locke



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052014)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:28 PM
Author: light marvelous marketing idea trailer park

Troutman Sanders/Pepper Hamilton/Locke Lord merger?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052790)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

rofl so three shitty regional midlaw firms merge and beocme biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052821)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:47 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

and wtf is a #86 Polsinelli

is this spaceporn's firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052016)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

wtf is #100 Husch Blackwell LLP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052023)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: Topaz Stock Car Hospital

Very prestigious Kansas City, Missouri, firm with a storied history and full service range of practice areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053336)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: apoplectic background story hall

180. Good for Millbank buying their way into the V10 via associate pay increases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052025)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: floppy round eye

Boies Schiller has really taken a tumble

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052039)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

At Boies Schiller Flexner, associates toss aside the life vest and dive right in, and lawyers at this litigation powerhouse wouldn’t have it any other way. Litigators looking to roll up their sleeves and learn on the job will feel right at home here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052044)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: passionate juggernaut senate

You know you’ve made it in the legal industry when you’ve landed a spot at Latham & Watkins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052774)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:38 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

Get your passport ready—DLA Piper has more than 90 offices (including relationship firms) around the world and is home to more than 4,000 lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052820)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:13 AM
Author: cyan piazza new version

Sidley — Come for the sophisticated work and stay for the polite, amiable Midwestern vibes as well as the sincere commitment to building a welcoming and inclusive workplace.

lol yeah lots of folksy people wandering the halls there. They just love small talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053140)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Charismatic set partner

lol cr, very chill happy bros

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053406)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:10 PM
Author: spruce insane kitty station

I’ve worked at three big law firms and Sidley was the most transactional by far. Nobody gave a fuck about anybody else other than their tiny in group and they just rented the Sidley brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053841)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: passionate juggernaut senate

polite, amiable Midwesterners like Barry and Michael Obama

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054162)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:55 PM
Author: glittery grizzly ticket booth gaping

wheres Lewis Brisbois Bisgaard and Smith?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052048)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

where is _._. ______ law?

should be top 100 after the penis verdict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052055)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:44 PM
Author: Exciting goal in life resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052828)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM
Author: Laughsome crackhouse old irish cottage

messenger bag logo facing OUT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052792)



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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:54 PM
Author: judgmental deep hell tattoo

My former firm baker hostetler holding down the 64 spot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49052844)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:38 AM
Author: Magenta candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053127)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 3:01 AM
Author: ivory hairraiser codepig water buffalo

Where does Hamlin Hamlin and McGill rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053137)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:14 AM
Author: pontificating vermilion becky crotch

What's board consensus on claiming vault prestige: (a) ranking from your time as an associate, (b) current rank, or (c) whichever is higher

I believe in (a)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053216)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 6:44 AM
Author: Dull aphrodisiac filthpig sanctuary

(c), with the argument that it was your hard work that made it increase after you left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053237)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

relatedly, same question about usnwr ug/ls rankings.

(asking for a silent gen friend who went to umich when it was #1)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053245)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: pontificating vermilion becky crotch

I think the bands are consistent enough to just use them:

HYS (Just use school name)

CCNP (just say top 5 and hope you don't have to explain)

BVMN (just say top 10)

TTT (anywhere lower, pretend you're a plumber)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053287)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Purple sandwich tank

How was penn?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053374)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: floppy round eye

(jerry sandusky tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053463)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: mauve self-centered meetinghouse toilet seat

I bet the “Carey” 2 and 3Ls would not be happy if they knew their CDO was spending time advertising on xo instead of making connections at regional DLA Piper offices.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053489)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Purple sandwich tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054103)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:40 AM
Author: Aromatic buff gas station

I’m currently at a V10 and I’d say consensus here is (c) - also FWIW no one is under any illusion that Kirkland and Kirkland branded products (e.g., Skadden and Latham) are prestigious. No one at my T6 (historical) wanted to go there.

The legacy undisputed V5 is WLRK, CSM, S&C, DPW and STB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053271)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM
Author: pontificating vermilion becky crotch

Clever Weil-bro post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053286)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: Crusty turquoise library famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053324)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: Purple sandwich tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053373)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 9:43 AM
Author: Dull aphrodisiac filthpig sanctuary

True although STB is SPS now



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053393)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: mauve self-centered meetinghouse toilet seat

How is STB?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053474)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: 180 Pit International Law Enforcement Agency

Does Kirkland still SHATTER the market??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053501)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: floppy round eye

YOURE A PARTNER

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053507)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Laughsome crackhouse old irish cottage

Man, it's still a great shtick for them. In-house business guys are impressed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49054201)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: spectacular base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053812)



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Date: June 27th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: floppy round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743509&forum_id=2#49053817)