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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started w...
Startled Reading Party Gas Station
  10/04/12
take it and make him stop you
judgmental big base trust fund
  10/04/12
Lmao!
hairless associate
  10/04/12
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Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
  10/05/12
what state?
Chest-beating trailer park degenerate
  10/04/12
lol
heady heaven becky
  10/04/12
lol
translucent galvanic church circlehead
  10/04/12
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indigo jap
  10/04/12
fuckin' steve
Awkward Honey-headed Ticket Booth
  10/04/12
shitlaw steve
Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
  10/04/12
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Avocado Feces Theater
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If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may hav...
Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
  10/04/12
180
Mischievous olive center
  10/04/12
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Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
  10/04/12
Lol xoxo
poppy athletic conference patrolman
  10/04/12
The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitl...
naked locale yarmulke
  10/05/12
Couches aren't fixtures of any type.
Nighttime mewling station
  10/05/12
Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shit...
Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
  10/05/12
This is so 180. Well done.
magenta metal hairy legs brethren
  10/05/12
tyty
Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
  10/05/12
180
provocative adulterous senate
  10/05/12
180
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180 if real, 180 if not real
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Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
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Autistic menage
  12/06/13
180 well done.
Burgundy tanning salon
  12/06/13
Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looki...
translucent galvanic church circlehead
  05/27/17
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Milky Supple Stage
  05/12/22
Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing f...
Insane Pit
  10/04/12
why do you steal from your employer bro?
Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
  10/04/12
I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I thi...
Insane Pit
  10/04/12
sweet good luck bro
Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
  10/04/12
thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer
180 shitlib immigrant
  10/04/12
It's one of his alts
Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
  10/04/12
Flame.
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  10/04/12
cr
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  10/04/12
You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way ...
Contagious hospital
  10/05/12
Fuck yo couch! Buy another one you rich motherfucker! ...
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Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry
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#pwned
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Curious opaque public bath new version
  12/06/13
Please sue. Best law suit ever.
translucent galvanic church circlehead
  05/27/17
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Vigorous alcoholic step-uncle's house ceo
  07/19/17
lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your...
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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: Startled Reading Party Gas Station

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716858)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: judgmental big base trust fund

take it and make him stop you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717732)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM
Author: hairless associate

Lmao!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719984)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry



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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: Chest-beating trailer park degenerate

what state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716895)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM
Author: heady heaven becky

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717373)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM
Author: translucent galvanic church circlehead

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717412)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM
Author: indigo jap



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: Awkward Honey-headed Ticket Booth

fuckin' steve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717460)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry

shitlaw steve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719624)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM
Author: Avocado Feces Theater



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry

If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.

You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.

I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717502)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM
Author: Mischievous olive center

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717675)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718985)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: poppy athletic conference patrolman

Lol xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718995)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM
Author: naked locale yarmulke

The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720779)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM
Author: Nighttime mewling station

Couches aren't fixtures of any type.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720974)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry

Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Let’s see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. I’ll go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.

Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721355)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM
Author: magenta metal hairy legs brethren

This is so 180. Well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722470)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry

tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723397)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM
Author: provocative adulterous senate

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723458)



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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: Curious opaque public bath new version

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#23915695)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: Mildly autistic roast beef pocket flask



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM
Author: 180 shitlib immigrant

Bigfinderskeeperslaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809764)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM
Author: angry rebellious water buffalo area

180 if real, 180 if not real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721095)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723576)



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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#22130665)



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM
Author: Autistic menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579596)



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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM
Author: Burgundy tanning salon

180 well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24581212)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: translucent galvanic church circlehead

Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409172)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM
Author: Milky Supple Stage



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Insane Pit

Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718998)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry

why do you steal from your employer bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719060)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: Insane Pit

I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719075)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry

sweet good luck bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719119)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: 180 shitlib immigrant

thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719117)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry

It's one of his alts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719163)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM
Author: bright exciting theater stage striped hyena

Flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719634)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719909)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM
Author: Contagious hospital

You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721248)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: irradiated misanthropic voyeur codepig

Fuck yo couch!

Buy another one you rich motherfucker!

Darkness is! Darkness is!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722501)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM
Author: Bearded bat shit crazy principal's office faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21725143)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: geriatric friendly grandma



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Date: October 31st, 2026 12:34 PM
Author: #pwned



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM
Author: Curious opaque public bath new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579568)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: translucent galvanic church circlehead

Please sue. Best law suit ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409168)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: Vigorous alcoholic step-uncle's house ceo



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM
Author: Idiotic property stain

lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809893)



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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: Avocado Feces Theater



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Date: October 31st, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: お尻のほっぺた (βœ…πŸ‘)



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