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Medellin is pretty nice and natural brothers

I never knew/expected it to be so mountains and in a valley/...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/28/25
describe crime, notably prostitution, kidnappings, honeypott...
azure plaza immigrant
  07/28/25
ive barely left the room except twice to get food. been swam...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/28/25
Are you hiring 180 gorgeous whores via internet or
Drunken Hyperventilating Stag Film
  07/28/25
I hire via a nanny app. They do a background check, I pay vi...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/28/25
You don't care what ur whores look like?
Drunken Hyperventilating Stag Film
  07/28/25
As long as not fat and not ugly, I dont care if hot or avera...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/28/25
U fuck your nanny?
Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap
  07/28/25
Isn't that the right outcome? Except not caring if she's att...
Big-titted lettuce office
  07/28/25
never
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/28/25
Then wtf are you doing in medellin? BTW I was there and it l...
Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap
  07/28/25
Never been so decided to come.
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/28/25
its still shit though walking those hills and stuff and u mu...
seedy bawdyhouse
  07/28/25
It's more than just a feeling in Brazil
Big-titted lettuce office
  07/28/25
...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/28/25
pablado is next. now trying laureals or whatever
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/28/25
Are you no longer married?
wonderful amber hospital
  07/28/25
married and 3 kids. why would you think otherwise?
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/29/25
Why would you need a nanny?
wonderful amber hospital
  07/29/25
newborn, a 2 year old boy, and a girl under age 5 are a lot ...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/29/25
Aren't 3rd world nannies providing bj to the boss?
Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap
  07/29/25
never. I never mess with the girls who take care of my kids
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/29/25
So you have 5 people crammed into a hotel room in a dangerou...
metal juggernaut native
  07/29/25
2 bedroom 2 bath 1,000 square feet condo friend. are you ret...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/29/25
yeah i am, so what?
metal juggernaut native
  07/29/25
lets be friends
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/29/25
...
metal juggernaut native
  07/29/25
dtf?
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/29/25
im not gay, sorry
metal juggernaut native
  07/29/25
no worries friend, neither am i ;) thats what is so not gay...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/29/25
well in that case i dont mind sucking you off a bit but i do...
metal juggernaut native
  07/29/25
deal my friend
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/29/25
I walked by the party area with bars and hookers. Hookers ar...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/31/25
For real? In poblado? I thought fairly aggressive and the ug...
Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap
  07/31/25
have you been to pattaya? Yes I am in el Poblado, a 2min ...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/31/25
No. I know that no one tries to rob you in poblado. But I th...
Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap
  07/31/25
thailand is way more aggressive. not for panhandeling, but f...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  08/01/25
I remember during covid a white young girl grabbed me by the...
Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/01/25
how does your wife/azn sex slave like the Columbian hookers?...
emerald pervert
  08/01/25
she hasnt seen them yet. i walked alone 1 night just to grab...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  08/01/25
Explain like I am five the difference between this city and ...
exhilarant awkward gas station
  07/31/25
i never been to Bogota. ive been in country for less than a ...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  07/31/25
...
exhilarant awkward gas station
  08/01/25
what are your current monthly expenses for 5 kids (estimated...
titillating maroon lay
  08/01/25
$5k-$6k i belive. half of that on airbnb. can get a place ch...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  08/01/25
What is the actual purpose u came to medellin if u have a Th...
Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/01/25
Explore a new country and city? Have you never enjoyed that?...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  08/01/25
how can u even enjoy or experience a place when u have 3 hap...
seedy bawdyhouse
  08/01/25
yes. having a family stops you from enjoying places! lol go ...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  08/01/25
I've been paying that 60-year-old mentally retarded jewish p...
metal juggernaut native
  08/01/25
only city i hated more than Medellin in Colopmbia was Cartag...
Angry parlor
  08/01/25
whats wrong with Cartagena? we might do panama city after th...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  08/01/25
cartagena is a filthy place with sewage waste for ocean wate...
Angry parlor
  08/01/25
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Marta_(Colombia)? h...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  08/01/25
chill when i was there Cali and Baranquilla are dangerous...
Angry parlor
  08/01/25
Some spic kept following trying to sell me something and I w...
Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap
  08/01/25
OH LOOK AT THE BIG BRAVE BIRDSHIT THE ALPHA MAN LETS ALL SAL...
seedy bawdyhouse
  08/01/25
even if cartagena beaches arent that great at least they hav...
seedy bawdyhouse
  08/01/25
medellin is like most things birdhsits like overrated, the d...
Angry parlor
  08/01/25
some of us work...
glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage
  08/02/25


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Date: July 28th, 2025 11:15 AM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

I never knew/expected it to be so mountains and in a valley/bowl. Saw some amazing parrots and the views are awesome.

Sidewalks for stollers are subpar in my current area and it feels more dangerous than CDMX, mostly because there are actual brown people here.

Zero English. I thought CDMX barely had any but this place even less. Saw 2 non Hispanics in 2 days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137211)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 11:22 AM
Author: azure plaza immigrant

describe crime, notably prostitution, kidnappings, honeypotting, nightclub drugging, etc.

describe the safety of your passport when you leave the house

tyia

also pics if able

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137239)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 11:37 AM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

ive barely left the room except twice to get food. been swamped with work. billed 9 hours on sunday.

i havent been able to see anything excpt my room, the 2 blocks around it, and the pretty views.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137275)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 12:09 PM
Author: Drunken Hyperventilating Stag Film

Are you hiring 180 gorgeous whores via internet or

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137349)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

I hire via a nanny app. They do a background check, I pay via the app. Slightly more expesive but still LOL cheap.

I dont care how they look. Its about my kids are all are thin girls under age 25.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137363)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: Drunken Hyperventilating Stag Film

You don't care what ur whores look like?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137388)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

As long as not fat and not ugly, I dont care if hot or average looking. Their job is to help take care of my kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137462)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap

U fuck your nanny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137788)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Big-titted lettuce office

Isn't that the right outcome? Except not caring if she's attractive, I mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137820)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

never

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49138197)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 10:46 PM
Author: Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap

Then wtf are you doing in medellin? BTW I was there and it looks a lot like some "gentrifying" u.s. neighborhood like Harlem. I.e. 50yo faggots going dining and locals asking them for money with photos from their cell phone of some premature baby on a ventilator.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49139097)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 11:25 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

Never been so decided to come.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49139194)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: seedy bawdyhouse

its still shit though walking those hills and stuff and u must not be in pablado (?) whateer its called cause that area is full of birdshit sexpats and assorted US garbage

dont know how u cld live in beaner town or US after living in asia, i just want to get out of brazil i cannot even walk arnd its like u go wrong street u feel u are abt to get murdered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137809)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Big-titted lettuce office

It's more than just a feeling in Brazil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49137822)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49138199)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 4:51 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

pablado is next. now trying laureals or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49138201)



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Date: July 28th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: wonderful amber hospital

Are you no longer married?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49139202)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 12:16 AM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

married and 3 kids. why would you think otherwise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49139292)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 4:25 AM
Author: wonderful amber hospital

Why would you need a nanny?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49139513)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

newborn, a 2 year old boy, and a girl under age 5 are a lot of work. wife mostly needs to give attention to the newborn. i also work from home so i need a paceful house and its good for my kids to get some more individual attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49139688)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 9:38 AM
Author: Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap

Aren't 3rd world nannies providing bj to the boss?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49139767)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

never. I never mess with the girls who take care of my kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49139852)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 10:22 AM
Author: metal juggernaut native

So you have 5 people crammed into a hotel room in a dangerous city? What's the point of that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49139892)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

2 bedroom 2 bath 1,000 square feet condo friend. are you retarded?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49140457)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: metal juggernaut native

yeah i am, so what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49140503)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

lets be friends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49140627)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: metal juggernaut native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49140628)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

dtf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49140630)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: metal juggernaut native

im not gay, sorry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49140642)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

no worries friend, neither am i ;)

thats what is so not gay about this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49140656)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: metal juggernaut native

well in that case i dont mind sucking you off a bit but i dont really wanna bottom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49140666)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

deal my friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49140700)



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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

I walked by the party area with bars and hookers. Hookers are much less aggressive than Thailand. Many looked pretty good to be honest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49145941)



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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap

For real? In poblado? I thought fairly aggressive and the uglier ones were more aggressive. But they're not as aggressive as panhandlers showing cell phone photos of "my baby on ventilator" or how about 5yo kids right next to those hooked panhandling, with their moms just sitting on the sidewalk..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49146040)



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Date: July 31st, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

have you been to pattaya?

Yes I am in el Poblado, a 2min walk to the bars. This is CALM AS FUCK compared to Thailand hookers/ladyboys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49146520)



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Date: July 31st, 2025 6:33 PM
Author: Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap

No. I know that no one tries to rob you in poblado. But I thought panhandling was pretty bad.. if pattaya is even worse I don't think I want to visit it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49146609)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

thailand is way more aggressive. not for panhandeling, but for hookers trying to get you to come into the bar for a drink, take them home, etc. some will grab ur balls/dick on the street to try to get you to stop and talk. nothig like that here in colombia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49148472)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 4:21 PM
Author: Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap

I remember during covid a white young girl grabbed me by the dick in LA Rambla Barcelona. Don't like it when nasty monkeys or faggots do that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149254)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 6:27 AM
Author: emerald pervert

how does your wife/azn sex slave like the Columbian hookers? is she more or less receptive to them than the Thai ones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49147843)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 11:56 AM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

she hasnt seen them yet. i walked alone 1 night just to grab some water. we will go walk around and see them tonight i think.

My wife is always ok for me to fuck hot girls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49148428)



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Date: July 31st, 2025 3:37 PM
Author: exhilarant awkward gas station

Explain like I am five the difference between this city and Bogota

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49146063)



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Date: July 31st, 2025 5:45 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

i never been to Bogota. ive been in country for less than a wweek

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49146521)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 2:40 AM
Author: exhilarant awkward gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49147744)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 4:18 AM
Author: titillating maroon lay

what are your current monthly expenses for 5 kids (estimated if it isn't a month yet). how does it compare to other cities like BKK, KUL, CDMX?

I may be doing this in the future with a family of 3 kids, 1 grandparent, a mom. USA nanny prices out of control

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49147774)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 12:01 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

$5k-$6k i belive. half of that on airbnb. can get a place cheaper if you rent for a year. my current airbnb is $2450/month. i can tell more later. but i keeep my expeses roughly the same at any place, i just get nicer at cheaper places. my medellin airbnb is nicer than my $2500 cdmx room.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49148447)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 4:22 PM
Author: Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap

What is the actual purpose u came to medellin if u have a Thai wife and kids? Like what's your plan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149255)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 5:04 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

Explore a new country and city? Have you never enjoyed that?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149371)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: seedy bawdyhouse

how can u even enjoy or experience a place when u have 3 hapa kids and a thai whore wife, it doesnt sound furking fun u have no freedom to do shit and its lolzy u are in the top sexpat destination in the western hemp but u bring ur wife and kids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149376)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 7:32 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

yes. having a family stops you from enjoying places! lol go buy a boat.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149826)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: metal juggernaut native

I've been paying that 60-year-old mentally retarded jewish pedophile that poasts here to watch my kids. His rates are really affordable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49148450)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Angry parlor

only city i hated more than Medellin in Colopmbia was Cartagena

OP gets fucked in the ass by trannies iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149382)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 7:33 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

whats wrong with Cartagena? we might do panama city after this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149828)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 7:34 PM
Author: Angry parlor

cartagena is a filthy place with sewage waste for ocean water

santa marta is tcr

go to Tayrona national park and do a night dive with glow in the dark plankton

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149834)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 7:35 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Marta_(Colombia)?

hows safety?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149835)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 7:41 PM
Author: Angry parlor

chill when i was there

Cali and Baranquilla are dangerous af, Medellin i hated for some reason too - couple guys i know got mugged there by spics in a decent area, they wont fuck with you if youre big though they were both twinks

i consider gettgin a place in Santa Marta every couple months when i want to go on murder spree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149844)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 7:47 PM
Author: Turquoise Thriller Dingle Berry Mad-dog Skullcap

Some spic kept following trying to sell me something and I went to the gym park with pull-up Bars and turned at him you want to settle it before I work out, and he ran away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149849)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: seedy bawdyhouse

OH LOOK AT THE BIG BRAVE BIRDSHIT THE ALPHA MAN LETS ALL SALUTE "HOLA SUPREMEO HOMBRE BIRDSHIT MUSCULAR MACHOMAN, YO GUSTO BUENO SENOR BRAVEAMOS MARVELOUSAS!!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149939)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 8:37 PM
Author: seedy bawdyhouse

even if cartagena beaches arent that great at least they have beaches, i find it lol ppl can live in medellin cause wtf do u do all day, u can go to cafes and "work" thats it, its all mountains u are walking up and down hills, there's no beach. i liked cartagena a lot more, also medellin isnt as warm, i guess birdshits wld like that but for me its gay and stupid having to wear pants or some shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49149936)



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Date: August 1st, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Angry parlor

medellin is like most things birdhsits like overrated, the drive in from teh mountain is gorguoes but its pretty sps and if the women werent hot thered be no point in going there to deal with these spics

oh wow a gondola ride up a hill

cartagena is whatever the spic island yo take a ferry too is kinda dope but the water was just sps iirc and ovepriced af

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49150387)



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Date: August 2nd, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: glassy internet-worthy coffee pot stage

some of us work...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5755585&forum_id=2#49151167)