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Wife left: tell me about seeking arrangements

Don’t want to risk hookers and i eventually want to tr...
Mauve chad
  09/22/25
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painfully honest theatre rigpig
  09/23/25
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painfully honest theatre rigpig
  09/23/25
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painfully honest theatre rigpig
  09/23/25
White men don't [pay for sex]. Date: April 20th, 2026 1:2...
nyuug
  08/24/26
49ers owner is asian bro
nyuug
  08/24/26
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nyuug
  08/24/26
I'm not sure you're gonna be able to command top dollar cons...
know-it-all dead nibblets base
  09/22/25
If they can’t handle me at my worst they don’t d...
Mauve chad
  09/22/25
Your refusal to state your height speaks volumes.
know-it-all dead nibblets base
  09/22/25
6’2” 220 (terrible build) Slight receding...
Mauve chad
  09/23/25
why did your wife leave you?
topaz legal warrant
  09/22/25
Wife had a mid life crisis. We married young but waited to h...
Mauve chad
  09/23/25
if you have a chance to bludgeon yourself retarded with rust...
insanely creepy seedy wagecucks locale
  09/22/25
Grinder.com
aggressive church building
  09/22/25
I don't believe OP is gay, though
know-it-all dead nibblets base
  09/23/25
There are some gems on SA if you’re willing to wade th...
fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin
  09/23/25
Search for the seeking arrangement poaster’s threads. ...
Vivacious Bearded Ticket Booth Mediation
  09/23/25
wow
sick cobalt home
  09/23/25
What's ur $$$$$ situation and geography? DESCRIBE ur terr...
Charismatic Drab Shrine
  09/23/25
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painfully honest theatre rigpig
  09/23/25
"Don’t want to risk hookers" I've got som...
Galvanic rehab sweet tailpipe
  09/23/25
There’s some pros on there for sure but there’s ...
fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin
  09/23/25
It is all literally sex for money.
Galvanic rehab sweet tailpipe
  09/23/25
They're not hookers. They're just seeking Mutually Benefi...
know-it-all dead nibblets base
  09/23/25
Actual professional hookers seem less risky than this.
Ungodly pea-brained den
  09/23/25
How so?
fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin
  09/23/25
They're not going to do something dumb like call or text you...
Ungodly pea-brained den
  09/23/25
I’d rather deal with an amateur hooker than a professi...
fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin
  09/23/25
professional hookers are in business bcs they are profession...
flatulent embarrassed to the bone old irish cottage
  09/23/25
…?
fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin
  09/23/25
Do not take advice from this poaster. He is dumb.
Learning disabled lodge
  09/23/25
I’m speaking from experience, are you?
fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin
  09/24/25
that's why you give them a burner number and not your real n...
know-it-all dead nibblets base
  09/23/25
Also this
fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin
  09/23/25
...
vermilion greedy pozpig gaming laptop
  09/23/25
What does this sentence mean: “ start autistically get...
Vivacious Bearded Ticket Booth Mediation
  09/23/25
I think he means dedicate your life to hobbies or scholarshi...
fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin
  09/23/25
...
vermilion greedy pozpig gaming laptop
  09/23/25
...
sick cobalt home
  09/23/25
The time required to match/vet and potential for headaches t...
Learning disabled lodge
  09/23/25
Or he can go to church and find a decent woman to date/marry
excitant blood rage faggot firefighter
  09/23/25
1) he says he doesn’t want to marry, 2) dating is very...
Learning disabled lodge
  09/24/25
You will be amazed at how often their cars break down, famil...
vigorous orange dragon hunting ground
  09/23/25
...
know-it-all dead nibblets base
  09/24/25
lol, sounds ghastly
Galvanic rehab sweet tailpipe
  09/24/25
SA is a huge waste of time. Just hire hookers every now and ...
Glassy apoplectic prole azn
  09/23/25
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vermilion greedy pozpig gaming laptop
  09/23/25
It is until you get caught in a sting.
know-it-all dead nibblets base
  09/24/25
There is no value in this. It died the same way dating apps...
smoky theater
  09/24/25
SA Poaster Here... I got into a more serious relationship...
Adventurous deranged step-uncle's house ape
  10/21/25
What kind of PPM should I be looking at for high col city?
Mauve chad
  10/21/25
WHITE MEN DONT PAY FOR SEX DURR DURR
Twisted gas station
  11/02/25
Reminder: nyuug isn't a Korean citizen, only has US Passport...
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nyuug
  08/24/26
This is like the worst parts of dating plus still having to ...
Mauve chad
  01/21/26
These women are nuts
Mauve chad
  01/24/26
they also enjoy licking your nuts
know-it-all dead nibblets base
  06/17/26
why not just go hunting the Bumblesauruses?
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Mauve chad

Don’t want to risk hookers and i eventually want to try dating again but it’s been too long with the wife.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49291749)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: painfully honest theatre rigpig

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49293910)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: painfully honest theatre rigpig

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49293939)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: painfully honest theatre rigpig

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296549)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 5:25 PM
Author: nyuug

White men don't [pay for sex].

Date: April 20th, 2026 1:28 AM

Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,...( )

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858159&forum_id=2#49828609

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#50090138)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 5:36 PM
Author: nyuug

49ers owner is asian bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#50090193)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 6:02 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#50090264)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: know-it-all dead nibblets base

I'm not sure you're gonna be able to command top dollar considering your:

- age;

- height;

- remaining hair

But give it a go!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49291759)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: Mauve chad

If they can’t handle me at my worst they don’t deserve me at my best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49291776)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: know-it-all dead nibblets base

Your refusal to state your height speaks volumes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49291944)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: Mauve chad

6’2”

220 (terrible build)

Slight receding with a widows peak. I don’t look balding yet but I’ve got some worries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49293643)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: topaz legal warrant

why did your wife leave you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49291946)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: Mauve chad

Wife had a mid life crisis. We married young but waited to have kids so I’m not sure what her problem is.

I work too much is part of it.

She didn’t cuck me before separation but I assume she has by now.

So I’m done.

Don’t really want another wife while my kids are young.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49293651)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: insanely creepy seedy wagecucks locale

if you have a chance to bludgeon yourself retarded with rust caked pipes, do that over and over instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49292139)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: aggressive church building

Grinder.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49292243)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: know-it-all dead nibblets base

I don't believe OP is gay, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49295397)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin

There are some gems on SA if you’re willing to wade through the trash. Ideal would be to find a cute-ish 20-25 yo girl who will have sex for $500 a pop that you can see twice a month or so. There’s a lot of flakes, I suggest quickly moving conversation to “hey let’s meet up for a drink, are you free tonight?” to see if they are serious / interested or not.

Don’t talk about money / sex on the app, wait to meet up and feel things out in person. Hopefully you have a least a little game.

Also, get in shape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49293677)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: Vivacious Bearded Ticket Booth Mediation

Search for the seeking arrangement poaster’s threads. All the scholarship you need.

The short version is if you are moderately good looking you’ll do great. Tell them up front you are looking for pay per meet. You will undoubtedly have some kooky situations. Ultimately, you will grow tired of it and your soul will be diminished.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49293681)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: sick cobalt home

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296963)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Charismatic Drab Shrine

What's ur $$$$$ situation and geography?

DESCRIBE ur terrible physique and honestly rate ur facial aesthetics and genetic makeup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49293908)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: painfully honest theatre rigpig

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49293911)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: Galvanic rehab sweet tailpipe

"Don’t want to risk hookers"

I've got some bad news about SA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49294299)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin

There’s some pros on there for sure but there’s also some college girls looking for an allowance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49294402)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 2:57 PM
Author: Galvanic rehab sweet tailpipe

It is all literally sex for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49295292)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: know-it-all dead nibblets base

They're not hookers.

They're just seeking Mutually Beneficial arrangements, tee-hee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49295402)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: Ungodly pea-brained den

Actual professional hookers seem less risky than this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49294413)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin

How so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49294425)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: Ungodly pea-brained den

They're not going to do something dumb like call or text you at the wrong time or go nuts on you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49294503)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin

I’d rather deal with an amateur hooker than a professional one, the pros are more likely to be sketchy, have a criminal record, drug use, poverty, STDs, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49295355)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: flatulent embarrassed to the bone old irish cottage

professional hookers are in business bcs they are professional, not on drugs, germ-free, take credit cards where as amateurs are all dirty druggies with std's they dont even know about, "oh that itch/rash/sore/fever, i thought it was cuz I havent showered in 5 days".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49295517)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin

…?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296355)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:43 PM
Author: Learning disabled lodge

Do not take advice from this poaster. He is dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296572)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:09 AM
Author: fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin

I’m speaking from experience, are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49297045)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: know-it-all dead nibblets base

that's why you give them a burner number and not your real name.

Rookie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49295406)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 4:13 PM
Author: fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin

Also this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49295494)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: vermilion greedy pozpig gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49294429)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Vivacious Bearded Ticket Booth Mediation

What does this sentence mean: “ start autistically getting to a surrogate activity”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296185)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: fantasy-prone razzmatazz cumskin

I think he means dedicate your life to hobbies or scholarship instead of wasting time on women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296383)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: vermilion greedy pozpig gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296940)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:22 PM
Author: sick cobalt home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296966)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:39 PM
Author: Learning disabled lodge

The time required to match/vet and potential for headaches that can come from the fake dating with SA always seemed like a big negative to me. That single non-parent dude in CO who was lining them up 3 per night and poasted all those pics and sex diaries seemed like the right way to SA. Ie it’s a tool suited to single middle aged dudes with a lot of time to search for a daddy issues Cinderella. But for a single dad with young kids it seems awful. Requires time you don’t have and energy/stress you should spare yourself. If you want to fuck a hot chick, pay over $500/hr (usually $800 in a big city), get a burner, use a fake name, set up a fake LinkedIn and treat yourself to a high end escort every once in a while. No reason that would prevent you from dating later on or concurrently, in fact I’d argue it would improve your performance because you won’t depend on dating for sex, you’ll have more time and you will be more rational in your assessments of potential long term candidates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296544)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: excitant blood rage faggot firefighter

Or he can go to church and find a decent woman to date/marry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296958)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 3:24 AM
Author: Learning disabled lodge

1) he says he doesn’t want to marry, 2) dating is very hard as a single parent with little kids, 3) the only women at church who see a single dad wrangling two kids and think to themselves “ohh I wonder if he’s single or his wife just has a stomach bug” are 300+ lbs. You’re right that mongering is a soul-rotting practice, but he’s the rare dude where the soul rot is worth the trade for the convenient access to sex with a woman who is otherwise far too attractive for him to ever have a chance with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49297191)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: vigorous orange dragon hunting ground

You will be amazed at how often their cars break down, family members/pets have costly medical emergencies, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296638)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:51 AM
Author: know-it-all dead nibblets base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49297113)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Galvanic rehab sweet tailpipe

lol, sounds ghastly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49298625)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: Glassy apoplectic prole azn

SA is a huge waste of time. Just hire hookers every now and then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296951)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:10 PM
Author: vermilion greedy pozpig gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49296954)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:50 AM
Author: know-it-all dead nibblets base

It is until you get caught in a sting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49297112)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:03 AM
Author: smoky theater

There is no value in this. It died the same way dating apps died. The hot chicks are on instagram and if they need extra cash post on onlyfans. The dude who posted here about SA posted a lot of 30s women. Why bother with that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49297025)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: Adventurous deranged step-uncle's house ape

SA Poaster Here...

I got into a more serious relationship with a chick I met off a dating app... We ended up having a bunch of mutual friends in common and went from there so I haven't been on SA in ages... I also started doing great on the apps (this takes a bit of time as the algo ranks you and can be frustrating/discouraging at first so be patient), so I got off SA completely.

However, for your situation I think it's fine, just use a google voice burner number and ideally don't take them to where you live until you've hooked up with them at least once and aren't getting any sketchy or crazy vibes. I only say that because you have kids. I met up with plenty of chicks straight at my house straight away, including late at night and it was fine but if I had kids I wouldn't do that.

If you search SA on here you'll get all my poasts which have quite a bit of scholarship on the matter. Ideally you find 1 or 2 you actually have some fun hanging out with who are great in bed and you just keep them on rotation whenever you're free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49364680)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: Mauve chad

What kind of PPM should I be looking at for high col city?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49364751)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: Twisted gas station

WHITE MEN DONT PAY FOR SEX DURR DURR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49396314)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 6:54 PM
Author: Twisted gas station

Reminder: nyuug isn't a Korean citizen, only has US Passport

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3466376&forum_id=2#32188261



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49587124)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 7:08 PM
Author: Twisted gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49587194)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 12:38 AM
Author: Twisted gas station



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Date: June 8th, 2026 12:54 AM
Author: Twisted gas station



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Date: June 8th, 2026 8:00 PM
Author: Twisted gas station



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Date: June 14th, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: Twisted gas station



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Date: June 21st, 2026 5:38 PM
Author: Twisted gas station



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Date: June 21st, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: Twisted gas station



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Date: June 21st, 2026 11:39 PM
Author: Twisted gas station



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: Twisted gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49956506)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 5:22 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#50090126)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: Mauve chad

This is like the worst parts of dating plus still having to pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2#49607174)



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Date: January 24th, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: Mauve chad

These women are nuts

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Date: June 17th, 2026 2:03 PM
Author: know-it-all dead nibblets base

they also enjoy licking your nuts

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Date: June 8th, 2026 5:55 AM
Author: Chest-beating Indian Lodge Marketing Idea

why not just go hunting the Bumblesauruses?

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:50 PM
Author: aggressive church building

cq

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