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DNC is panicking over impact of Bernie downticket
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Date: February 6th, 2020 1:58 PM Author: Puce Trust Fund They can live with Biden losing to Trump and not having the White House for another four years. But if Bernie is the nominee, every county sewer commissioner running for reelection for the fifth time is endangered. To say nothing of all but the most liberal Dems in Congress.
This is why they're going buckwild trying to stop Bernie. |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: startling rough-skinned casino ceo zero chance Rethuglicans take back the house dipshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553913) |
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Date: February 7th, 2020 10:08 AM Author: Idiotic alpha sanctuary Date: February 6th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: '""'""'"
zero chance Rethuglicans take back the house dipshit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553913) |
Date: February 6th, 2020 1:59 PM Author: citrine space dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553131) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: Puce Trust Fund Ok Jayden. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553140) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:01 PM Author: bright area ape What if, and hear me out on this, the DNC doesn’t know Jack shit about how to actually win an election or actually get anything done? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553133) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: hideous locus roommate I'm listening... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553139) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:04 PM Author: Swashbuckling seedy doctorate Right, which is why they're doing this incompetently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553154) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:52 PM Author: Opaque shivering school cafeteria This cant be right. The DNC is clearly filled with evil geniuses playing 3d chess. Pure incompetence doesn't sound like them AT ALL... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553503) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:05 PM Author: Rambunctious stag film Sounds like the 2016 RNC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553159) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:25 PM Author: comical jet-lagged genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553319) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:35 PM Author: mint library giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553784) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:07 PM Author: Fishy abode Bernie won't win shit because the DNC is under no obligation to respect the outcome of primaries or the voters. They'll choose who they want. Deal with it Bernie Cucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553170) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:10 PM Author: Swashbuckling seedy doctorate Yeah, that'll be a great setup for the generals. Just get someone like Bloomberg or Pete on the ticket after screwing over a huge portion of the party. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553195) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:11 PM Author: Fishy abode Bernie Cucks will just suck it up and pull the lever for the Blue Team man regardless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553201) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:14 PM Author: underhanded misunderstood digit ratio codepig Not if Bernie gets robbed at a brokered convention. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553239) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:18 PM Author: sticky indirect expression you don't understand bernie supporters:
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4437838&mc=14&forum_id=2
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Date: February 7th, 2020 2:24 PM Author: cerebral sepia hell mental disorder Didn't something like 17% of Bernie supporters jump to Trump ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39558412) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:37 PM Author: Flesh Bearded Mood So like DNC 2016? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553410) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:04 PM Author: Swashbuckling seedy doctorate Except worse because there will be no plausible deniability whatsoever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553557) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:10 PM Author: sexy irate parlor Bernie might as well be part of the trump campaign. He’s a virus using the Democratic Party as a host. They can’t go nuclear on him without alienating his base. he’s seriously damaging other candidates with a better shot at winning the general. And if he wins the primary he might alienate the suburbs for a generation.
Corbyn’s impact on Labour is instructive no matter how much you shriek that it isn’t.
Bernie is political AIDS for Democrats imo. Personally I wish they’d openly kick him out of the party and shit on his base so aggressively that they take voters from trump. I’d vote for a dem that does that. Then again I’m prob not the best proxy for the average voter |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:12 PM Author: Wine Church Building Don't delete this one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553211) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:15 PM Author: sexy irate parlor What am I missing here? Trump will go scorched earth on Bernie in ways the other dems can’t since they have to keep his scum of the earth voters on board. If you think he has a chance you’re high as fuck
Don’t delete you telling me not to delete |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:17 PM Author: Wine Church Building I just get a kick out of your hatred of anyone who isn't an establishment Dem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553252) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:18 PM Author: sexy irate parlor I’m rooting for Donald trump if Bloomberg doesn’t pull it out. Trump winning made the left lose its mind (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553265) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:19 PM Author: Wine Church Building Why not Biden? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553269) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:22 PM Author: sexy irate parlor He’s not that much better than Bernie and I’m confident he’d bend to the AOC/Omar/Bernie Make-America-Somalia wing of the party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553296) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:13 PM Author: sticky indirect expression CIA will probably kill him if they can't buy him off like in 2016 (vacation home) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553221) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:01 PM Author: cordovan lascivious trailer park roast beef This (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553540) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:13 PM Author: bright area ape No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553222) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:14 PM Author: French factory reset button Doesnt seem like his positions are much different than other dems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553230) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:15 PM Author: sticky indirect expression Heartpeached @Heartiste @TheZBlog Why does the Dem/media establishment hate Sanders? I don't mean hate of the nature they have for Trump, but a definite strong dislike. I've heard the hot takes, but none strike me as getting at the heart of the hatred. He's a communist. Ok, but that's workable to Dems. They'll just rein him in a bit if he wins. He's unelectable. Maybe, but so is the rest of the field (including Biden now that he's tarnished). He's anti-Wall Street. That could be it, but what Dem can't be bought off by their Wall St patronage network?
The ZmanVerified Account@TheZBlog My pet theory is a take on Paul Gottfried's take on German Jews versus Eastern Jews. Bernie is a shtetl Jew. He's an uncomfortable reminder of the not so distant past for the cosmopolitans of today's managerial class. He is their loser uncle who wears white socks and high waters.
The new class, the sophisticated urbanites, who populate corporate offices, college faculty and politics look down on guys like Sanders for the same reason they look down on Trump. It's about class, not policy. Nixon ran into the same buzz saw in the 1970's. |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:22 PM Author: racy milky field gay wizard they hate Sanders because he's using their party for the nomination after 40 years of staying away and not compromising with them. he's not in their clique and the idea of an outsider swooping in and doing an end run around their entire circle jerk offends the shit out of them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553290) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 5:15 PM Author: Talented insecure gas station this is plausible actually
the aesthetic gap between Bernie & PButt is *wide* |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 5:37 PM Author: Passionate associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39554342) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:17 PM Author: sexy irate parlor Fracking ban for $2000 gas, 20% unemployment in PA and cascading bankruptcies across the oil & gas industry
National rent control to make America San Francisco
Banning private health insurance, collapsing Pharma r&d spending, healthcare rationing
Total economic dystopia
How is that shit? We put people in prison for causing 3936292929x less harm to the country |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:36 PM Author: sexy irate parlor I want some homeless Bernie leech I mean voter opine on this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553395) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:46 PM Author: Marvelous Sienna Patrolman Station That shit wouldn't get through Congress. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553472) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:54 PM Author: citrine space dog poop
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:23 PM Author: drab idea he suggested feces burst out laughing IRL while reading this post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553300) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:24 PM Author: sexy irate parlor Fuck that guy I’m seething lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553307) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:31 PM Author: bright area ape Fuck you. Go vote for a republican you fag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553362) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:25 PM Author: Green heady step-uncle's house half-breed (Israel-first Neocon) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553315) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:27 PM Author: sexy irate parlor No i hate that about trumps foreign policy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553330) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:28 PM Author: racy milky field gay wizard no, he's the militant centrist the other thread was jokingly referring to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553342) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:30 PM Author: sexy irate parlor I’m not a centrist because America’s political spectrum is retarded. I’d maximize economic growth while giving losers of globalization plenty of cash so they don’t vote for someone retarded like Bernie
I don’t really care about that much else. I’m a liberal on most criminal justice/social policy stuff but who gives a shit |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:32 PM Author: bright area ape Your entire political ideology is tied to aesthetics only (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553368) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:35 PM Author: sexy irate parlor Aesthetics? I dunno I was worried about my parents’ retirement in 2016 but not anymore because my dad had lots of apple stock in his self directed account.
I don’t particularly care for having a lifelong loser who became rich in politics wage jihad against people that have done far more for me than him |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:38 PM Author: bright area ape You are a piece of shit and also too much of a pussy to vote GOP because of what your friends might think.
Democratic Party under Bernie doesn’t need you or want you. |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:43 PM Author: sexy irate parlor Lol you 100% have me to a T about why I wouldn’t vote gop. I’ve already said way too many vaguely pro-trump stuff that I’m already under suspicion.
We’ll see whether they need me or not. Lol if you figure Marxist class consciousness beats overtly racist conservative populism though. Trump will run against AOC Omar and Talib and no politician can survive that shit in the Midwest |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:44 PM Author: bright area ape You do realize there is a whole untapped group of non-voters out there right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553463) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:48 PM Author: sexy irate parlor You don’t think Bernie’s candidacy would trigger turnout from waves and waves of people over 50 with jobs and employer provided health insurance?
im not even sure a majority of democrats would vote for Bernie. Isn’t that why “vote blue no matter who” is a thing? |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:50 PM Author: bright area ape Have you seen a single poll regarding hypothetical matchups between Bernie and Trump? Bernie is consistently ahead. He also has the highest favorability rating of any politician in America. Nothing you’ve argued ITT is even remotely backed up by data. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553495) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:58 PM Author: sexy irate parlor My economic assertions about the impact of electing him are totally logical inferences that I’m sure are shared by nearly all professional economists. It’s not a coincidence Bernie doesn’t have any (I’ve seen) advising him
As far as data, again no Democrat has gone scorched earth on him like trump will. Presumably you know about all of his baggage? Let’s see what his numbers look like in October if he’s the nominee.
Also I find it impossible to see him winning in PA (fracking is a huge part of the economy and supported by unions) or Florida (pro Castro, pro Chavez/Maduro socialists aren’t the dems that win that state) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:02 PM Author: bright area ape Bernie is even better than Trump on trade. Bernie is the most pro-labor candidate in several decades, so he’s uniquely positioned to do well in the Midwest and rust belt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553546) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:09 PM Author: sexy irate parlor I’m sure you know about the book “what’s the matter with Kansas”?
You’re assuming trump won solely because of trade skepticism and not culture (and the millions of things packed into that word). Again prepare to cry if you’re still banking on a Marxist revolution in 2020 |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:17 PM Author: bright area ape I don’t need a book to know what proles in the Midwest are thinking because I don’t live in a fucking bubble like you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553626) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:59 PM Author: mint library giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553936) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 4:30 PM Author: sexy irate parlor if/when bernie gets his brains violently bashed in by trump, i hope you reconsider whether he has been helpful to trump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39554048) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:51 PM Author: awkward motley menage windowlicker reminder this is exactly how faggot establishment neocons talked about trump in 2016 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553501) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:52 PM Author: bright area ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553504) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:02 PM Author: sexy irate parlor Bernie’s answer to every question having to do with reality is “I’m gonna start a revolution”
He’s old worthless decrepit garbage that was on the government dole through his 30s, kicked off an israeli commune for being too lazy and enriched himself as a senator. If you think this will get working class to vote as a block, you should stop tripping acid |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:06 PM Author: awkward motley menage windowlicker yeah because trump had nuanced and specific answers to policy questions
its amazing that poli sci wonks STILL dont get that the average voter's tolerance for policy depth is an inch or two at most
"bbbut warren has such good PLANS!" lol |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:09 PM Author: racy milky field gay wizard lol at these west wing worshipping dipshits (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553582) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:11 PM Author: sexy irate parlor Fuck policy. Trump is going to unload a Gatling gun of personal attacks that might render him unelectable even in Vermont (the only place he’s won an election incidentally) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553591) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:18 PM Author: bright area ape Oh no. He certainly would do the same thing to anyone else that was nominated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553632) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 4:31 PM Author: sexy irate parlor every other dem nominee (including sitting bull) collectively lack even 5% of the crazy shit that bernie has in his background. wow maybe you have no clue what i’m talking about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39554053) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 4:33 PM Author: Flickering locale Biden would get killed over Ukraine. It's the kind of thing voters actually care about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39554058) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 5:11 PM Author: sexy irate parlor *** The chances of Sanders actually becoming president, however, are also close to nil. I say this because in 2016 I got a glimpse of the Republican party’s opposition research book on Sanders, which was so massive it had to be transported on a cart. The Newsweek reporter Kurt Eichenwald, who got to see some of its contents, declared that “it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn [Sanders] apart.” According to Eichenwald, the book includes damning material such as the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermont’s nuclear waste to Texas where it would be dumped in a poor Hispanic community, that he honeymooned in the Soviet Union, and that he appeared at a 1985 rally in Nicaragua at which he shrieked “Here, there / the Yankee will die” alongside Sandinista supporters. And then there’s Sanders’ fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men… ***
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Also the donald might seize a seemingly preposterous % of the black male vote vs a vermont democrat with no roots in the black community. particularly one whose supporters actually despise the first black president |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 4:35 PM Author: bright area ape Hunter Biden, Pocahontas, Pete’s Mckinsey/CIA ties (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39554063) |
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Date: February 7th, 2020 10:14 AM Author: Idiotic alpha sanctuary Mainstream Republicans (like Jeb or Marco voters) hated Trump from the right. They thought he wasn’t really conservative and would do stuff like nominate lib judges. They pulled the lever for him because the alternative was Hillary. They’ve been surprised to see that he has actually governed as a conservative.
Mainstream Dems (suburban white women) hate Bernie from the center. That’s a problem, because it’s much more palatable to just stay home. Especially when it’s become clear to most (except the extreme left) that the world is not on fire while Trump is in office. |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:06 PM Author: Grizzly fantasy-prone point azn Who cares (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553569) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:38 PM Author: Pungent Stage If Bernie’s like AIDS I can see why he’s the front runner for the Dem nomination. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553816) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 4:32 PM Author: dashing impressive state selfie Phrases like “for a generation” have no meaningful role in politics anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39554054) |
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Date: February 7th, 2020 10:29 AM Author: Rebellious Clear Base Rigor I'm not a fan of Bernie and I think internet poli-sci dweebs have a tendency to overstate the popularity of non-mainstream candidates (Trump, Bernie, Yang, Tulsi), but you're never going to see the type of collapse Labour suffered. American politics is much more binary and the coalitions more stable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39557103) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:14 PM Author: sticky indirect expression i actually think bernie will do better in the general election than many others think, but as a trump supporter i think bernie should be the dem nominee because its the one candidate where the deep state won't try to rig the election against trump (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553233) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:18 PM Author: bright area ape Bernie almost certainly would have won Michigan and Wisconsin in 2016. Idk how the rest of the map would have shaken out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553262) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:25 PM Author: racy milky field gay wizard he polled better against trump nationally than hilldog (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553311) |
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Date: February 7th, 2020 10:16 AM Author: Idiotic alpha sanctuary He didn’t run nationally, dipshit. How many general election voters do you think even knew who he was or that he was a socialist? For all they knew, he was just a generic D. Once he runs a national campaign (and comes under real scrutiny, if only from Republican ads) his numbers will plummet. Nobody over the age of 45 will vote for him, and you can’t win elections that way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39557053) |
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Date: February 7th, 2020 2:21 PM Author: bright area ape Shut the FUCK up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39558375) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:25 PM Author: citrine space dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553313) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:26 PM Author: Fluffy lime cuckold foreskin Bernie will win if he's the nominee, but that also likely means the end of the gravy train for many people in the swamp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553325) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:49 PM Author: razzle-dazzle talking parlour goal in life no and no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553877) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 2:50 PM Author: awkward motley menage windowlicker would be 180, cuckfaggot dnc establishment gets guillotined and berniebros remake the party in their image (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553492) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:05 PM Author: bright area ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553563) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:22 PM Author: cordovan lascivious trailer park roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553668) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:03 PM Author: Grizzly fantasy-prone point azn Wtf I love Bernie now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553550) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 3:24 PM Author: Flickering locale If anything Trump has shown that having a bunch of milquetoasts in your party is useless. Trump got nothing through congress besides a Heritage approved tax cut. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39553679) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 4:24 PM Author: Flickering locale Here's Bloomberg echoing these sentiments that Bernie would be toxic and stand no chance of winning:
https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1225521979475648512?s=19 |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 7:36 PM Author: sexy irate parlor he is trying to keep some of sanders' voters if he wins the nomination man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39554799) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 9:58 PM Author: Flickering locale This was from years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39555448) |
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Date: February 6th, 2020 7:30 PM Author: Marvelous Sienna Patrolman Station Can Republicans retake the House? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4439632&forum_id=2#39554785) |