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NFL teams have a MASSIVE blind spot for surgical white QBs
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Date: September 26th, 2025 12:56 AM Author: Supple meetinghouse sound barrier Sam Darnold tossed out like trash after posting top 3 qb rating with the Vikings, a team that has desperately chased a franchise QB for the last decade
Same thing with Jared Goff.
NYG fucked up big time discarding Daniel Jones
But this goes back to the Trent Dilfer and Hasselbeck days. Probably before I was even born
Why are NFL teams utterly incapable of accurately evaluating the Quarterback position
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Date: September 26th, 2025 8:49 PM Author: Underhanded becky set I was just about to say NYG fucked up big time. The funny part is Dart is some mega wigger from what I've heard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49306388) |
Date: September 26th, 2025 1:04 AM Author: massive juggernaut I think that in many of these cases the team that drafted them was extremely shitty and were just really bad and they blamed their failings on the QB. When Daniel Jones was signed by the Giants everyone thought it was a terrible signing. Because Daniel Jones was not going to turn that trash heap around. But someone in the organization correctly identified him at one point. It's just they lost so many games they thought it was him.
With the Vikings I don't really know but that entire organization is run by the family members of the owner who have never had a real job even once. |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:36 AM Author: Supple meetinghouse sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49304215) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 8:28 AM Author: Boyish deep location mood With the Vikings, Darnold had a great year but crumbled under pressure when it mattered. I was personally disappointed they let him go but I can fully understand why. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49304440) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:15 AM Author: arousing sick abode wrinkle can't win in the modern nfl without a dual-threat qb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49304201) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:34 AM Author: Supple meetinghouse sound barrier Like who?
Mahomes, Jackson and Hurts seem like single threat QBs to me.
True Willy Beamen types never stay healthy or haven't been clutch in postseason
I think Detroit also fell ass backwards into a superior "dual threat" RB strategy that other teams should copy |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:42 AM Author: arousing sick abode wrinkle come on. mahomes, jackson and hurts all count. mahomes doesn't rush for as many yards as jackson or hurts, but you absolutely have to take his mobility seriously or get burned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49304219) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:45 AM Author: massive juggernaut No one throws the ball out of bounds anymore. Brady, Manning, Warner, Brees, Rivers, Roethlisberger all used to chuck the ball out of bounds on a broken play with no options. Now guys just run around in the backfield like maniacs forever and take bad sacks. Mahomes is smart and only does it when they've left him wide open. I think the truly surgical autist QB could bring back throwing the ball out of bounds. Make pocket passers great again.
I blame Russell Wilson for all of this. |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:57 AM Author: Supple meetinghouse sound barrier Here's an underrated statistic that completely explains why Russell Wilson has been around so long IMHO
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/gwd_active.htm |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 2:09 AM Author: massive juggernaut The first several years of his career he put up some of the most stunning numbers for a young player ever in the postseason. He played out of his mind. Granted he had a legendary defense and the best running back in the game. But he absolutely balled. Post interception on the goal line to Malcolm Butler he was never the same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49304245) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 8:01 PM Author: Narrow-minded Jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49306243) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:46 AM Author: Supple meetinghouse sound barrier Yeah you're right. This is probably what causes the blindspot
But Mahomes is generational and Jackson is close. Hurts is a lucky motherfucker
Seems super risky to try and draft the next one of those over building around a surgical game manager who runs the offense like a CEO being graded on time of possession and TD:INT ratio |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 12:33 PM Author: Pale demanding forum reading party Tom Brady sure was a runner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49304992) |
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Date: September 27th, 2025 6:03 AM Author: Glittery frisky heaven antidepressant drug he also was a drew bledsoe away from never getting a serious chance in the nfl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49307071) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:26 AM Author: Cocky Roast Beef Volcanic Crater Isn’t this Purdy ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49304208) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:42 AM Author: massive juggernaut He's just kind of mid. He's been on some amazing teams with the best system and the best coach. He had one really good year when everything came together perfectly and he went to OT of the Super Bowl but it doesn't look like he'd ever going to carry a team offensively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49304220) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 12:36 PM Author: Odious Walnut Organic Girlfriend darnold choked when it mattered (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49304999) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:05 PM Author: Shivering parlour macaca Joe Burrow is the GOAT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49305077) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:18 PM Author: umber old irish cottage Josh Allen Exhibit A. Laser accuracy and runs like a Mack truck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49305143) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: hairraiser coiffed institution *passes you a wing* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49306235) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 8:46 PM Author: massive juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49306379) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 10:44 PM Author: Pale demanding forum reading party People who think Josh Allen is amazing have to be some of the dumbest NFL fans in history. That is saying a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49306699) |
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Date: September 27th, 2025 4:04 AM Author: hairraiser coiffed institution (objective guy who totally watches the games) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49307026) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 1:28 PM Author: Dashing Khaki Candlestick Maker Gruden is a fan of Darnold.
https://x.com/BarstoolGruden/status/1971268656245112970 |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 7:55 PM Author: light elite crackhouse "Top 3 QB Rating"
Darnold had 2 make or break games at the end of 2024 to prove he was for real.
Against the Lions he posted a 55 rating and a 14 QBR.
Against the Rams he posted a 77 rating and 12 QBR.
That's be literally the worst rating and QBR of the 50 QBs that played last year. Not an exaggeration to say if he played well in either of those games he'd have gotten $100 mm more on his contract. |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 8:04 PM Author: mischievous hunting ground rehab isn't the problem with a surgical white qb that you need the line to never fail and a dood who can run basically saves you if you don't happen to have the best line in the nfl? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49306255) |
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Date: September 26th, 2025 8:51 PM Author: ivory medicated jewess corner Oh look bald men talking about young men throwing a ball! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49306391) |
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Date: September 27th, 2025 4:23 AM Author: Razzmatazz chest-beating multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5780110&forum_id=2#49307038) |
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Date: September 27th, 2025 5:32 AM Author: vigorous fantasy-prone center alpha evolution of the defensive line ended the precision pocket passer. 20-30 years ago, the game was run heavy, often with 2 set backs. the d lines' job, esp DT, was to fill gaps and stop the run, often run from variations of the power i. the old run game was very vertical. defenses were standard 4-3 or 3-4, little movement, mainly man to man. rushing the passer were designed all out blitzes usually. the qb just didnt have pressure back then like they do today.
when the league started bringing in faster more agile defensive linemen, and more complex schemes with movement and rotation of d linemen and zones, this was countered by the west coast offense. you started seeing split back sets to stretch the field horizontally, gone were the power i days. with faster d linemen, this is also when DE pass rushing became an important aspect of the game. this era was the beginning of the end of the pocket passer and the fullback.
today, defensive lines are too big and too fast. the o line cannot hold the pocket esp with linebackers who are essentially mini d linemen playing zone and can optionally shift in and out of d line. zone cover defenses + fast d line means you would need a precision passer who can make sub 3 second decisions AND have open receivers, which is the goal of modern day spread offense. that just cannot happen all the time. the pocket collapses too fast, coverage is too good. you need a qb with mobility or you get stuck like burrow - who i agree is great, but playing in the wrong era. |