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Katy Perry accused of rubbing her bare cunt on actress’s face

https://pagesix.com/2026/04/13/celebrity-news/katy-perry-den...
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Iridescent french masturbator
  04/13/26
To be fair, between the ages of 15 and 22 I probably teabagg...
Jet university
  04/13/26
at least 5 of these were total strangers I never met.
Jet university
  04/13/26
none of them ever kicked your ass?
Thriller house-broken dragon
  04/13/26
*licked
Disrespectful forum
  04/14/26
I'm pretty sure all of them were passed out / sleeping.
Jet university
  04/16/26
oh that makes way more sense. i know a football player (lin...
Thriller house-broken dragon
  04/17/26
Exactly. It's a great way to shit test whether someone is a ...
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I wonder how this works mechanically, and whether there was ...
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Impossible there was not butthole/nose contact
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Unghh Does anyone know if this is common behavior for Ms....
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when people make up stories they often don't even try to vis...
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this is MAGA country, nigger
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Thriller house-broken dragon
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This sounds like the Holocaust
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...wish it was true but it's made up
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Battle of the Crazy Eyes. But Ruby Rose absolutely RADI...
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The two of them booze and gakked out determined to get all t...
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She’s known around LA to have a monstrously gross vag
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If you have a question just ask it little guy
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black stain
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i thought it was self-explanatory, boss. who is spreading th...
Thriller house-broken dragon
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You just have to go there and hang out in “the scene&r...
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it lends credence to the story if she has droopy labia minor...
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wwop
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This sounds exaggerated
Henna athletic conference locus
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Katy Perry was a non-famous gospel singer named Katie Hudson...
Pearly candlestick maker
  04/14/26
some gay guy should come and and pull the old "MEEEE TO...
180 cordovan native death wish
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I have always found Katy Perry sexxy as hell-- so sue me.
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"Projectile vomited." And that was a lesbian.
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I would make such sweet luv to Katy https://www.youtube.com...
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Incredible thread title. Incredible allegation.
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Thanks. Once I saw the story I knew xo would love it, but th...
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Incredible stories. This is their story.
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Katy Perry's publicist is throwing Hail Marys it seems like.
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Once saw a documentary about Allie Sin where this happened t...
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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:36 PM
Author: maniacal spruce location

https://pagesix.com/2026/04/13/celebrity-news/katy-perry-denies-ruby-roses-sexual-assault-allegations/

“She didn’t kiss me. She saw me ‘resting’ on my best friend’s lap to avoid her and bent down, pulled her underwear to the side and rubbed her disgusting vagina on my face until my eyes snapped open and I projectile vomited on her,” she claimed about Perry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815367)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:37 PM
Author: Iridescent french masturbator

based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815369)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:39 PM
Author: Jet university

To be fair, between the ages of 15 and 22 I probably teabagged 20-30 guys. (Full bare balls on their face)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815375)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: Jet university

at least 5 of these were total strangers I never met.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815387)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:44 PM
Author: Thriller house-broken dragon

none of them ever kicked your ass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815998)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:16 AM
Author: Disrespectful forum

*licked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816329)



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Date: April 16th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: Jet university

I'm pretty sure all of them were passed out / sleeping.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49822286)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 6:50 PM
Author: Thriller house-broken dragon

oh that makes way more sense. i know a football player (linebacker) who did this to some guys who were awake but yeah that's a pretty aggressive move if the guy can't take a joke

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49823919)



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Date: April 20th, 2026 8:04 PM
Author: Jet university

Exactly. It's a great way to shit test whether someone is a chill fratty bro or a neurotic faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49830526)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:40 PM
Author: Flesh persian mad-dog skullcap

I’ve been to spice market bar, good bar, but I’m ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815377)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: soul-stirring wine home partner

I wonder how this works mechanically, and whether there was also any butthole contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815398)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:25 PM
Author: dead puce toilet seat love of her life

Impossible there was not butthole/nose contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815794)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: Silver casino friendly grandma



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:48 PM
Author: soul-stirring wine home partner

Unghh

Does anyone know if this is common behavior for Ms. Perry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816009)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:32 PM
Author: ivory abode boltzmann

when people make up stories they often don't even try to visualize what they're claiming occurred

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815806)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:32 PM
Author: Metal Self-absorbed Range

this is MAGA country, nigger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815808)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Thriller house-broken dragon

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815999)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 6:50 PM
Author: Rose genital piercing volcanic crater

This sounds like the Holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815400)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:56 AM
Author: Rose genital piercing volcanic crater

...wish it was true but it's made up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816486)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:57 AM
Author: Spectacular olive queen of the night



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Date: April 13th, 2026 7:07 PM
Author: hairraiser brilliant spot

Battle of the Crazy Eyes.

But Ruby Rose absolutely RADIATES histrionic BPD succubus serial fabulist energy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815437)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: vibrant crawly french chef

The two of them booze and gakked out determined to get all the male attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815750)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:07 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone Beady-eyed Stage

I think Katy Perry was famous 15-20 years ago no idea who this other person is supposed to be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815759)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: Silver casino friendly grandma



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:15 AM
Author: Rough-skinned bbw



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:20 PM
Author: Metal Self-absorbed Range

there's a very real possibility that this event straight up never happened but both women have ended up hallucinating that it happened for separate reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815785)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:29 PM
Author: Silver casino friendly grandma



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:30 AM
Author: vigorous bronze hospital



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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:05 AM
Author: vengeful titillating son of senegal cumskin



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:40 AM
Author: Charcoal nibblets station



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Date: April 14th, 2026 6:03 AM
Author: Jade school cafeteria fanboi

mfcr

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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:11 AM
Author: drunken unholy corn cake faggotry



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:18 AM
Author: black stain



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:47 AM
Author: Wonderful dark personal credit line



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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:08 PM
Author: Dull therapy



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:21 PM
Author: garnet sandwich school

if true, there should be boils and pustules where vagina made contact

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815787)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 9:30 PM
Author: tripping blathering site preventive strike

Lucky girl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815803)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:18 PM
Author: vermilion telephone trailer park

She’s known around LA to have a monstrously gross vag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49815955)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:45 PM
Author: Thriller house-broken dragon

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816003)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:22 AM
Author: vermilion telephone trailer park

If you have a question just ask it little guy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816337)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:22 AM
Author: black stain



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:34 AM
Author: Thriller house-broken dragon

i thought it was self-explanatory, boss. who is spreading these rumors in los angeles and can you expound upon them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816434)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: vermilion telephone trailer park

You just have to go there and hang out in “the scene” for a few months. Pretty soon you’ll have a good grip on the credible gossip.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816892)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:08 AM
Author: Khaki foreskin box office

it lends credence to the story if she has droopy labia minora lips that she brushed across the victim's face, similar to a male tea-bagging

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816324)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 10:54 AM
Author: Lascivious gay wizard idea he suggested

wwop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816585)



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Date: April 13th, 2026 11:49 PM
Author: Henna athletic conference locus

This sounds exaggerated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816011)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:26 AM
Author: Pearly candlestick maker

Katy Perry was a non-famous gospel singer named Katie Hudson in 2005-06, there is zero chance this happened

Ruby Rose is deeply mentally ill and has falsely accused 3-4 celebrities of shit at this point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816121)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:35 AM
Author: 180 cordovan native death wish

some gay guy should come and and pull the old "MEEEE TOOO" card for a straightup cash grab. fuck everyone involved. but also the allegation is nauseating and i find it funny that she claims she vomited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816130)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:30 AM
Author: Submissive Chartreuse Dingle Berry

I have always found Katy Perry sexxy as hell-- so sue me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816359)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:40 AM
Author: cracking citrine lay brethren

"Projectile vomited." And that was a lesbian.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816371)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:46 AM
Author: Submissive Chartreuse Dingle Berry

I would make such sweet luv to Katy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nb_PcOJ0NU&list=RD5Nb_PcOJ0NU&start_radio=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816381)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 8:40 AM
Author: cracking citrine lay brethren

Incredible thread title. Incredible allegation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816370)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: maniacal spruce location

Thanks. Once I saw the story I knew xo would love it, but the thread title had to be pithy. Sometimes the best stories are so out there it’s hard to summarize it in a way that it will pop here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816862)



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:18 PM
Author: Aquamarine affirmative action



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Date: April 17th, 2026 8:01 PM
Author: Aquamarine affirmative action

Incredible stories. This is their story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49824046)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:37 AM
Author: Laughsome headpube roommate

Katy Perry's publicist is throwing Hail Marys it seems like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816439)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 9:55 AM
Author: black stain



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Date: April 15th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: Thriller house-broken dragon



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Date: April 21st, 2026 9:32 AM
Author: Lascivious gay wizard idea he suggested



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Date: April 14th, 2026 12:20 PM
Author: Cheese-eating sick resort

Yes, libs. pizzagate was real. Just watch the video for "This Is How We Do".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816738)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:10 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal out-of-control locale shitlib

tittywop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816872)



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:15 PM
Author: naked buck-toothed theater stage prole

twice she groundered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816882)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 11:17 PM
Author: irradiated tanning salon



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Date: April 14th, 2026 1:15 PM
Author: Carmine State Milk

I volunteer as tribute

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49816885)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:39 AM
Author: Jade school cafeteria fanboi



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Date: April 15th, 2026 2:16 PM
Author: Fishy gas station

that lesbo damn well knows there’s nothing disgusting about pop princess vagina

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49819591)



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Date: April 16th, 2026 8:20 PM
Author: insecure passionate psychic

🚨🚨🚨THIS IS A WLMAS ACCOUNT🚨🚨🚨DUMB NIGGER ALERT 🚨🚨🚨

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49822325)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 10:40 PM
Author: Thriller house-broken dragon

I Kissed A Girl (And I Liked It)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAp9BKosZXs

great pop song imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49820836)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 11:36 PM
Author: Useless motley church hunting ground

Once saw a documentary about Allie Sin where this happened to her and she got pissed off and walked off stage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49820909)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 8:55 AM
Author: dead puce toilet seat love of her life

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49831554)



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Date: April 16th, 2026 1:27 AM
Author: Aquamarine affirmative action

'CAUSE YOU'RE HOT THEN YOU'RE COLD

YOU'RE YES, THEN YOU'RE NO

YOU'RE IN, THEN YOU'RE OUT

YOU'RE UP, THEN YOU'RE DOWN

YOU'RE WRONG WHEN IT'S RIGHT

IT'S BLACK AND IT'S WHITE

WE FIGHT, WE BREAK UP

WE KISS, WE MAKE UP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49820986)



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Date: April 21st, 2026 5:41 AM
Author: Sadistic bright jew

Majorly jewish incident and thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49831377)



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Date: April 24th, 2026 9:36 PM
Author: Thriller house-broken dragon

katy perry ALSO allegedly exposed a male co-star's penis WITHOUT HIS CONSENT. wtf is with these stories

https://pagesix.com/2026/04/24/celebrity-news/katy-perrys-teenage-dream-co-star-felt-devalued-and-degraded-when-singer-allegedly-exposed-his-genitals-at-party/

Kloss claimed that when he arrived with a friend, Perry — who was with a small group — greeted him excitedly outside the venue. As he was introducing the friend, he alleged Perry pulled his pants and underwear out, exposing his penis.

Kloss lamented on Instagram in August 2019, “Can you imagine how pathetic and embarrassed I felt?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5856776&forum_id=2#49840970)