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Anyone else feel sorry for George Bush?
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:30 PM Author: opaque national boistinker I don't know why, but lately I've been feeling sorry for the guy. Sure I disagree with most of his policies, and his two terms have been pretty terrible, but he just seems like a good guy who was clearly not ready to be POTUS. It seems like he was led astray early on by shitty advisers who were actually pretty awful people (Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove), and yes it is fault for appointing these guys, but when 9/11 hit he looked to them and they pointed him in the wrong direction. For some reason this makes me feel bad for him. The allegations of him being an evil person seem extreme. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724325) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:32 PM Author: mewling zippy brunch Ths guy was a nut job even before 9/11. One of his first acts in office was to stop funding international family planning initiatives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724336) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:36 PM Author: opaque national boistinker Not funding abortions doesn't make him a nut job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724355) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:41 PM Author: cowardly party of the first part tank supporting abstinence only programs in schools does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724385) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:43 PM Author: opaque national boistinker misguided by religion, yes, but i guess we have different definitions of "nut job" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724398) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:15 PM Author: mewling zippy brunch You are an idiot if you think family planning = just abortion and nothing else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724553) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:33 PM Author: razzle-dazzle stag film sorry for what? He doesn't feel sorry for himself at all. He's blissfilly indifferent in regards to the chaos he unleashed on the world. Fuck him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724340) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:35 PM Author: opaque national boistinker You want him to come out and say Iraq was a mistake when we still have troops there? I'm opposed to the war, but that seems a bit much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724351) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:33 PM Author: Vigorous dark hairy legs "he just seems like a good guy who was clearly not ready to be POTUS" *waits for it...* |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:42 PM Author: Mind-boggling seedy menage karate still waiting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724392) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:36 PM Author: pea-brained sooty garrison laser beams He's like the Michael Scott of Presidents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724357) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:37 PM Author: opaque national boistinker wow, actually you summed up the intent of my post perfectly in one sentence, thank you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724364) |
Date: January 15th, 2009 12:36 PM Author: overrated slippery location One thing to say in his defense- that dude never flipped on anything and didnt give a flying fuck about polls or politicking. I respect that. I honestly believe he did what he thought was right and never did anything for the sake of public approval (which PWN3D the shit out of his own party over time). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724358) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:38 PM Author: opaque national boistinker Depends on the context too, though, because he clearly waited too long to change strategy in Iraq, and it wasn't even debatable like some of his positions (abortion, etc) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724369) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:54 PM Author: overrated slippery location Right, that is the obvious price of sticking to your guns. However, BHO has already flip flopped on twice as much stuff over the course of his campaign and transition than Bush did in 8 yrs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724470) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:58 PM Author: razzmatazz factory reset button sandwich shrewd xoxo political analysis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724490) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:03 PM Author: concupiscible main people no one really gives a shit about consistency in politics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724512) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:04 PM Author: opaque national boistinker Sure they do -- to a certain point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724515) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:05 PM Author: concupiscible main people it's inconsequential (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724521) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:06 PM Author: opaque national boistinker I wouldn't vote for a President like Romney who changes his position on many issues depending on which election he's running in. I wouldn't have any idea what I was voting for, and once in office, I should (ideally) pretty much get what I expected (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724526) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:07 PM Author: concupiscible main people like that stopped obama from getting elected. or proved a decisive defeat for kerry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724527) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:16 PM Author: overrated slippery location I would say Kerry's defeat was decisive. I would also argue that Obama might have had trouble if the GOP ran a team that had half a shot of winning. McCain/Palin would have been a better double play combination that Pres/VP. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724559) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:57 PM Author: concupiscible main people you remember when the most controversial thing about GWB was his position on funding stem cell research? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724484) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:59 PM Author: Vigorous dark hairy legs The only thing that makes me feel really badly for him are the positions where he was dead right but everyone opposed him just because they wanted to: Dubai ports deal, Social Security privatization, immigration reform. He pleased nobody when trying to broker a third way. And it failed miserably. And it was sad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724496) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:00 PM Author: razzmatazz factory reset button sandwich drop ss privatization (for the most part) and i agree with you. dubai ports/immigration reform were lolwut? ARE COUNTRY moments. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724501) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:05 PM Author: Vigorous dark hairy legs Yes, because obviously, leaving the Ponzi scheme in place until it dries up in 40 years is the best solution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724520) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:07 PM Author: razzmatazz factory reset button sandwich no, you're right! the best way forward would be to free those assets, let the people invest in other ponzi schemes and let them dry up in 4 months...
edit: i'm not for full privatization, nor the status quo in its whole. my original response should have indicated this |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:08 PM Author: concupiscible main people hi bernie madoff! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724530) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:01 PM Author: opaque national boistinker Agree. He opened up his second term by trying to tackle very difficult issues that nobody else wants to touch (immigration and SS), and he ruined almost his whole second term because of it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724503) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:40 PM Author: razzle-dazzle stag film Ed Gein thought making lampshades out of corpse skin was a good idea. He didn't give a flying fuck about the "law" or public opinion of him (which PWND him over time). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724377) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:54 PM Author: concupiscible main people yeah not caring about what people think is usually a winning move in politics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724468) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:57 PM Author: pale resort alpha He thinks his biggest mistake in his 2 terms was putting up a "mission accomplished" too early. i don't think he's evil, but he doesn't deserve our pity or empathy. he's an idiot; he knows he's an idiot; and he doesn't even care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724482) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 12:57 PM Author: infuriating son of senegal toilet seat yeah, his son turned out to be a real douchebag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724487) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:05 PM Author: pale resort alpha 177 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724519) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:15 PM Author: Out-of-control frozen dog poop LOOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724550) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:02 PM Author: opaque national boistinker As someone else mentioned in the other thread, he also should get credit for making 2 pretty good appointments to SCOTUS (minus the harriet miers fiasco) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724510) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:10 PM Author: concupiscible main people debateable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724536) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:11 PM Author: pale resort alpha understatement of the day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724537) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:12 PM Author: opaque national boistinker how so? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724538) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:13 PM Author: infuriating son of senegal toilet seat flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724545) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:14 PM Author: opaque national boistinker You think Roberts was a poor choice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724546) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:12 PM Author: Black new version orchestra pit Were it not for his connections he would be working some low level administrative job. So no, I don't feel sorry for him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724541) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:16 PM Author: Out-of-control frozen dog poop Yeah but no. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724560) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:44 PM Author: cream piazza No, not at all. He doesn't regret a thing he did and admits no blame, so he doesn't deserve sympathy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724675) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:45 PM Author: pale resort alpha TITCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724684) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:47 PM Author: opaque national boistinker "Bush acknowledged “disappointments,” citing the mistreatment of prisoners at Iraq’s Abu Ghraib prison, and the discovery that Iraq didn’t have the weapons of mass destruction that provided a rationale for the Iraq war."
He essentially admits he was wrong on Iraq |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:48 PM Author: pale resort alpha LEAVE HIM ALONE!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724702) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:49 PM Author: Out-of-control frozen dog poop "Yeah I brutally raped your mother, made your sister watch, then carved my name in her forehead; but what I really regret is not wiping my feet before entering the house." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724709) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:50 PM Author: opaque national boistinker poor metaphor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724716) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:51 PM Author: Out-of-control frozen dog poop Not at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724720) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:52 PM Author: opaque national boistinker He regrets his reason, and, therefore, his decision to go into the country (raping the mother) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724723) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:52 PM Author: Out-of-control frozen dog poop You didn't listen to the speech did you?
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:53 PM Author: opaque national boistinker no, enlighten me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724733) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:56 PM Author: Out-of-control frozen dog poop Youtube. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724741) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:53 PM Author: cream piazza Yes, I'm sure he is very disappointed that his flimsy rationale for the war was discovered to be incorrect.
Regretting Abu Gharib isn't nearly enough to inspire sympathy. |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:54 PM Author: opaque national boistinker What would you like him to say? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724734) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:56 PM Author: cream piazza Honestly, there's not much he could say. He's had years and hasn't changed a thing, including his policies on torture.
But I'd want him to start by admitting flat out that the war was a mistake and that he was aware there was little evidence of weapons of mass destruction when he made the decision to invade. |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:57 PM Author: opaque national boistinker I don't think he (or any President) would say the war was a mistake while we still have troops in the country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724746) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:58 PM Author: cream piazza Then he'll have to do without my pity. I'm sure he doesn't mind much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724750) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:59 PM Author: opaque national boistinker fair enough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724755) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:55 PM Author: Out-of-control frozen dog poop His language was interesting on the Iraq point. His demeanour suggested that he was upset about the entire thing, but his exact language was essentially "disappointed we didn't find nukes". Two entirely different things. The second isn't a regret at all. |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:56 PM Author: opaque national boistinker I think there's a difference between how he actually feels (see his demeanor) and what he can actually say from a strategic standpoint at this point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724740) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:57 PM Author: amethyst godawful kitty cat He didn't even admit he regreted it, though. It was a "disappointment." To regret something at least acknowledges ownership of what happened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724744) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 1:58 PM Author: Coiffed Indirect Expression Yeah, sort of the same type of sorry I feel for Hitler during his last few weeks in the bunker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724751) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 2:05 PM Author: opaque national boistinker yeah, no difference at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724779) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 2:32 PM Author: Coiffed Indirect Expression Hitler was more evil, but much smarter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724910) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 2:35 PM Author: opaque national boistinker fair assessment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724920) |
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Date: January 15th, 2009 2:10 PM Author: pale resort alpha But Hitler had his heart in the right place (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=916377&forum_id=2#10724792) |
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