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Any bros here do "debate" in HS/college? Help me train for my bait Twitch stream
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 6:06 PM Author: Trip jewess therapy As described elsewhere: I'm going to try a bait Twitch stream model. The concept is "debate me about anything" and the challenger gets to choose my position. I'll have a disclaimer on the screen that explains that this is an intellectual exercise and lists the assigned position and opponent, so I can't get clipped and canceled. There are fun ways I could incorporate channel points and eventually donations. I'll also post each debate on YouTube; maybe I could promise to respond to any paid comment. The idea is to capitalize on people's argumentative instincts.
While I am experienced in written argumentation, I don't have practice debating people real-time. So far I'm planning on training by extemporaneously defending chatbot-assigned positions aloud, recording and evaluating my argument afterward. But I also think it might be good to do some training modeled after what kids learn in "debate" or "mock trial" in case I end up debating those people.
Advice is of course welcome from everyone, not just debatebros. Also, if anyone has ideas for format of the stream, I don't have that set in stone yet.
I've been kicking this idea around for a while and want to try a stream or two while I'm funemployed. I figure the potential payoff of social media success makes it worth a try. |
Date: April 23rd, 2026 6:48 PM Author: Trip jewess therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49838360) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:07 PM Author: jet-lagged buff halford The good news is that collegiate debate is a highly specialized activity now and if your opponent tries to use those tactics and strategies he'll look like a spaz to most viewers. I would advise researching topical political issues you think you might be asked to debate, and write down a few key quotes or stats you can trot out to make a point. Former debaters will insist on you providing evidence (N.B.: some guy's opinion counts as "evidence" for them). And if you don't address one of their arguments they'll think that means you've conceded the point, so always try to answer every point they raise. You can even refute multiple points at once with the same argument to save time. Debaters like to talk fast, so maybe listen to some actual college policy debates on YouTube and try to understand as much as you can, though if they try debating you at full speed they'll look ridiculous, so don't worry too much about this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49838392) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:19 PM Author: Trip jewess therapy Very helpful, tyvm. Great idea to look at stats in advance. I will do that and also come up with ways to poke holes in each and then a way to defend against those args. And it's v useful to know that opinions are citable lol. I guess if nothing else it shows you've done research on the topic.
Anything you think people will ask about?
I am committed to ideological flexibility for this exercise but I have strong opinions about some things. If I'm asked to defend something I disagree with, my plan is to distill it down to what I think the central assumption is, which may end up serving as a reductio argument against my assigned stance. I think that's the best-faith way I can do it. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:30 PM Author: jet-lagged buff halford Climate change, colonialism, national and global security, capitalism, and queer, race, and disability topics are the big stock issues. I can guarantee you Israel/Palestine will come up. I think your approach to defending positions you strongly disagree with is fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49838436) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 7:37 PM Author: Trip jewess therapy Tyvm I will practice with those topics.
Israel is one of the things I've thought about – if I were asked to defend Zionism in any form, I would say, "My argument comes down to the presumptions that Jews are ethnically superior and it's OK to kill people if you're ethnically superior to them." Any pro-Israel stance can be reduced to that, whether it's genocide apologism or defending Israel's right to exist as an ethnostate. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 8:52 PM Author: Trip jewess therapy So far here's what I'm thinking for the format.
A viewer comes up with a one-sentence thesis for me to defend. I'm allowed to ask questions and refine it with them, and when we finalize the position, I put it on screen. Then, the viewer makes their case first, arguing against the thesis they assigned me.
To start, I think it's OK to just have the opponent argue in chat (rather than calling in). I'll have their messages isolated in one area of the screen and will address them directly but I'll also pay attention to the rest of chat. |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 11:05 PM Author: Twinkling hairy legs whorehouse Yeah I did the debate team, first meet we had. a guy on the other team started arguing with me and I physically punched him and kicked his ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49838927) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2026 11:07 PM Author: Trip jewess therapy 180. Classic XO poa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49838932) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 3:11 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface This is a good idea. People love to white knight, simp, and hate too. You'll probably drive maximum economic benefit by being strong but not godly
You may want to prescribe themes to avoid really weird and pointless "debates", which still gives people a lot of flexibility. I'd be leery of letting my early counterparts pick shit that isn't designed for maximum interest and engagement
I'd listen if you link to a recording or give a link far enough in advance |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 3:47 PM Author: need tokens yeah I was thinking of having a list of potential topics to jog people's imaginations, nothing too prescriptive but something to get people on the right track. I think I'll present them as questions so as not to hint at whether I'd want to take the affirmative or negative. I don't actually have a list in mind yet though lol I should probably start thinking of them. AI and technology ones are easy AF to come up with. "should it be illegal to sell art/music created primarily using generative AI?" "does LLM alignment policy do more harm than good?" "is it immoral to post content of your minor children on public social media pages?" etc.
I'm gonna try it out a few times before I show you guys :) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 3:12 PM Author: "in real life" Just wear a low cut top that's all there is to it. People will tune in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944614) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 3:47 PM Author: need tokens https://ibb.co/album/YXvdYW ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944641) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 3:49 PM Author: "in real life" Yeah pretty much. You should have no problem getting viewers once you get enough momentum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944643) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 3:52 PM Author: need tokens for the first few I'm gonna do a normal shirt (with alt makeup/accessories), don't wanna complicate things too much with tiddies. but they are an option for later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944646) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 4:07 PM Author: "in real life" Just accept that men value you for sex it doesn't make you less of a person or whatever it is that women feel self conscious about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944682) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 4:08 PM Author: need tokens if valuing me for sex motivates them to engage with me intellectually enough for me to make money, then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944684) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 5:57 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface I think he's trying to make the point that you should figure out what your primary goal is. If it's money/audience, then embrace the things that will drive that. If it's intellectual engagement--and let's be serious, of course it is coming from this den of scholarship--then embrace the things that will drive that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944902) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 4:09 PM Author: gay of hormuz 3 time HS debate champ and I can confirm this tactic always worked for me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944687) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 4:10 PM Author: need tokens (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944689) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 4:37 PM Author: luiskandarnameh (🧐) you should debate Karlstack imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944759) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 4:52 PM Author: "in real life" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944788) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 5:58 PM Author: Fucking Fuckface Clearly. And let us listen live on an audio cast. It would benefit both of you and be fantastic board content (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944903) |
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Date: June 17th, 2026 4:40 PM Author: So we looked at the data You should have a black guy choke you on stream when you lose a debate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5859865&forum_id=2...#49944771) |