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Obama admin unleashed the floodgates
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Date: December 7th, 2021 7:36 PM
Author: shaky thirsty stock car genital piercing



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Date: May 22nd, 2026 12:10 AM
Author: Boyish trump supporter pervert

they tortured and crippled people working on ill shit

and nobody seemed to care and even made jokes about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#49893606)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:48 PM
Author: shaky thirsty stock car genital piercing



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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:49 PM
Author: Stubborn Motley Newt

Obama admin unleashed the floodgates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#43576105)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:49 PM
Author: shaky thirsty stock car genital piercing

he was such a scam

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Date: August 22nd, 2024 7:05 PM
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Date: September 23rd, 2024 11:49 AM
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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:50 PM
Author: bespoke sienna office french chef

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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:50 PM
Author: Provocative Gas Station

It was always propaganda but you weren’t a middle aged white man then so the propaganda wasn’t noticeable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#43576114)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:54 PM
Author: shaky thirsty stock car genital piercing

someone always says this but it's not really true for everything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#43576131)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 10:00 PM
Author: Provocative Gas Station

The goals also shifted. But very few creators can get anything through Hollywood or publishing if their message is not The Message desired by the powerful. Maybe some legacy boomers like McCarthy or Kubrick did

But I look at the entertainment I loved as a teen and I see now how much of it was propaganda

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#43576163)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 10:01 PM
Author: shaky thirsty stock car genital piercing

it's at the point where even clueless normies are noticing the decline

more woke isn't going to fix that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#43576172)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:51 PM
Author: hairraiser pocket flask parlour

It was always uncreative garbage, but now it's also woke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#43576118)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:51 PM
Author: jet menage

i remember a bunch of articles around 2014 re: pelosi and various studio execs on bringing the culture war home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#43576120)



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Date: December 7th, 2021 9:54 PM
Author: shaky thirsty stock car genital piercing

well it sucks no wonder no one watches this crap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#43576136)



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Date: August 22nd, 2024 5:51 PM
Author: soul-stirring balding stage

definitely asians controlling hollywood and the media bro

theyre so UNCREATIVE DURR DURR

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Date: August 22nd, 2024 5:57 PM
Author: soul-stirring balding stage

superior anglo culture

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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:56 PM
Author: soul-stirring balding stage

the elites are in charge of...the entertainment systems. Via these systems these information transmission systema, Elites shape young minds through propaganda and one of the things that the elites injected into young white Minds is the idea that non-whites have higher Social Status than whites.. which is why young whites adopt the norms and values of non-whites.. hope this helps

Date: September 18th, 2025 10:10 PM

Author: MISO HORNY

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5777425&forum_id=2#49283010

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Date: August 17th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: soul-stirring balding stage

MUH ODYSSEY

https://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5866114&mc=26&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#49193027)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 8:31 PM
Author: soul-stirring balding stage

the "West" doesn't exist. there's America and there's the third world.

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Author: dino bravo

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5844333&forum_id=2#49734282

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Date: June 25th, 2026 11:22 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 1:32 AM
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:51 PM
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:51 PM
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Date: September 18th, 2025 10:16 PM
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Date: May 12th, 2026 10:35 PM
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Date: May 18th, 2026 9:46 PM
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Date: June 23rd, 2026 7:48 PM
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Date: August 22nd, 2024 7:48 PM
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Date: September 19th, 2024 7:15 PM
Author: olive seedy feces

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#48110757)



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Date: September 19th, 2024 11:21 PM
Author: pungent floppy address

You know how all the Jews are accusing Elon of buying Twitter to spread propaganda, despite it being one of the only free speech platforms? Now consider the possibility that they're projecting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#48111739)



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Date: September 22nd, 2024 6:55 PM
Author: vibrant dragon useless brakes

social media has led to extremely well-developed narratives for what is permissible and what isn't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#48120853)



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Date: September 22nd, 2024 6:58 PM
Author: soul-stirring balding stage

facebook, instagram, etc. all invented by low IQ ASIANS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#48120862)



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Date: September 23rd, 2024 11:48 AM
Author: vibrant dragon useless brakes

social media caused whites to implement versions of the social credit systems created and practiced by asian societies yeah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#48123007)



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Date: September 23rd, 2024 7:43 PM
Author: soul-stirring balding stage

ASIANS invented SNS bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#48124826)



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Date: September 27th, 2024 1:15 AM
Author: arrogant garnet rehab hairy legs

thread made before the release of Andor, we’ve come a long way since then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#48136467)



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Date: October 15th, 2024 5:06 PM
Author: Talented jap

The easy answer is that the legacy entertainment firms promote and give access primarily to DEI types and have by and large been captured by the left

The more difficult answer is that white American social and cultural norms, especially amongst the conservative camp, no longer allow for a creative culture that allows for the irrational and unpredictable conditions that enable great works of culture and cultural successes. The reasons for this are multifaceted and fault is ascribed across the board

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#48201251)



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Date: March 6th, 2025 6:19 PM
Author: histrionic principal's office

Don’t worry

It’s over

We won

https://x.com/xnewnorm?s=21&t=_p0_0_LQ4gFe59wppjUTIQ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#48722577)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:28 PM
Author: histrionic principal's office

TOO MANY NEPHEWS!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#49030191)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:58 PM
Author: histrionic principal's office

too many nephews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#49186463)



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Date: September 18th, 2025 10:45 PM
Author: White macaca fanboi

USAID money put woke propaganda mechanisms on steroids

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#49283085)



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Date: May 12th, 2026 10:52 PM
Author: Shivering Temple

Male dominance ---> male permissiveness ---> female equality ---> female superiority

Just wait until it's outright female dominance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#49883004)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:55 PM
Author: Talented jap

it didn't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#49956591)



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: Adventurous state

Everyone was raving about that show Widow’s Bay so I started watching and it is really just kinda ok, not nearly as clever or funny as it thinks it is.

I don’t like the exaggerated praise and insipid language that is used these days - “OMG you gotta see this it’s AMAZING”

Really? I’m going to be “amazed” by an Apple TV show made by some chick from Ghostbusters 2016?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4981001&forum_id=2...#49956614)