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millennials the last gen to torrent?

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Soul-stirring White Boiling Water
  01/10/24
Last gen to know computer afaict
High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay
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Soul-stirring White Boiling Water
  01/10/24
it's pretty nuts that the generation glued to screens since ...
Tan unholy crackhouse
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High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay
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Soul-stirring White Boiling Water
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tbf there are like 5-10x as many zoomers as millennials majo...
exciting laser beams
  01/10/24
I almost took offense to this remark Then just remembered i...
Emerald tattoo
  01/10/24
enjoying the new shtick brother
High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay
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sticky university
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Tan unholy crackhouse
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180 moniker
High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay
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shivering electric travel guidebook bbw
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early millennial here with synology NAS running plex, can co...
dashing voyeur sanctuary
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You’re basically an Engineerbif you got DirectX to wor...
diverse bossy fanboi
  01/10/24
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Soul-stirring White Boiling Water
  01/10/24
what's the most seamless way to torrent these days w/o expos...
Boyish candlestick maker
  01/10/24
i mostly use thepiratebay with a VPN on, transmission app fo...
dashing voyeur sanctuary
  01/10/24
tyft - i'm going to test this out. using transmission over v...
Boyish candlestick maker
  01/10/24
there are different ways you can set it up but i run plex di...
dashing voyeur sanctuary
  01/10/24
i'm all over this, going to research nas options. any you'd ...
Boyish candlestick maker
  01/10/24
you dont need ssd to stream, even 90+ mbps bitrate files. yo...
irradiated plaza
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dashing voyeur sanctuary
  01/10/24
ty - learned so much from this thread. looking at picking up...
Boyish candlestick maker
  01/10/24
Shield works great but you can also get an awesome micropc w...
High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay
  01/10/24
ya but i have a remote shaped like a triangle, lmao.
irradiated plaza
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so i just bought an empty DS1621+ (on a black friday sale) a...
dashing voyeur sanctuary
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i was doing NAS for awhile and then i went all in and built ...
irradiated plaza
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sounds cool. i considered building a server but just didn't ...
dashing voyeur sanctuary
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download from piratebay and don't run executable files lo...
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Cerise spectacular pistol
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Soul-stirring White Boiling Water
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vengeful excitant messiness piazza
  01/10/24
wtf. use private torrent sites and skip vpn. i have never ru...
irradiated plaza
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vengeful excitant messiness piazza
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Yeah. It’s pretty funny how Big Corpo defeated piracy ...
Sooty area
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hehe
dashing voyeur sanctuary
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Soul-stirring White Boiling Water
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Tan unholy crackhouse
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imo it should be gen x into '83 or '84. but younger people ...
pink filthpig
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Soul-stirring White Boiling Water
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had a double-reverse big willie when i saw "File not fo...
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Tan unholy crackhouse
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massive chapel private investor
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Bateful Antidepressant Drug Hall
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Naked kitty cat
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same
pink filthpig
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did IRC ever catch on with millennials?
autistic boltzmann karate
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twitter is based on IRC code.
sticky university
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exciting laser beams
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Twitch chat is literally an IRC server that you can join wit...
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Soul-stirring White Boiling Water
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massive chapel private investor
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Irate Seedy Abode Internal Respiration
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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271303)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay

Last gen to know computer afaict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271306)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:36 AM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271315)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:37 AM
Author: Tan unholy crackhouse

it's pretty nuts that the generation glued to screens since birth don't know fuck all about computers. i've heard that zoomer cs people are fucking retards about it too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271319)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271324)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:48 AM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271353)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:37 PM
Author: exciting laser beams

tbf there are like 5-10x as many zoomers as millennials majoring in CS. there used to be some self selection for a base level of spergitude, then everyone realized you can fart out a react app and land a job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272948)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:42 AM
Author: Emerald tattoo

I almost took offense to this remark

Then just remembered in my dorm there was

A guy downloading torrents sans encryption

(Too poor for VPNs? Could be, but still)

So zoomers know the gist, but it's as if

The art is half-remembered, so to Bards

Pre-dating Homer, all confused at letters

And only knowing how the "viewer" gasped

As if he were the victim of a blow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271335)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:53 AM
Author: High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay

enjoying the new shtick brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271376)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:26 PM
Author: sticky university

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271533)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:38 PM
Author: Tan unholy crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271582)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:58 PM
Author: High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay

180 moniker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271688)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 10:12 PM
Author: Azure market hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47273910)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:38 AM
Author: shivering electric travel guidebook bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271322)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:48 AM
Author: dashing voyeur sanctuary

early millennial here with synology NAS running plex, can confirm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271355)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:57 AM
Author: diverse bossy fanboi

You’re basically an Engineerbif you got DirectX to work in the 90s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271395)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 11:57 AM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271397)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:22 PM
Author: Boyish candlestick maker

what's the most seamless way to torrent these days w/o exposure to a bunch of viruses, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271522)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:28 PM
Author: dashing voyeur sanctuary

i mostly use thepiratebay with a VPN on, transmission app for actual torrenting. download straight to plex server directory on synology NAS. use infuse app for playback through AppleTV/iPad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271542)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 3:45 PM
Author: Boyish candlestick maker

tyft - i'm going to test this out. using transmission over vpn to download top gun maverick. if it's really this simple, i'll set up the plex/nas.

can you explain the latter, a bit more? am i running a plex server on my pc and pointing to a directory on the nas for storage, or can a synology nas run the plex server itself?

*edit* lol - fhd movie downloaded in like 2 min



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272492)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 3:55 PM
Author: dashing voyeur sanctuary

there are different ways you can set it up but i run plex directly on the synology NAS so that it's "always on" and not subject to the state of my computers. I don't run my torrenting app on synology cuz getting a VPN set up on a NAS seemed like a hassle, so it seemed more straightforward to just make sure the VPN was on on my main computer and torrent as needed from that. btw people on here have recommended alternate setups (such as "Seedboxes") but I haven't had the time to look into them and am happy with my current solution.

i use Infuse instead of the plex app for playback cuz it supports speeding up videos (yes yes I'm weird/autistic etc, thanks). infuse also has the advantage of doing "direct playback" so that it can just play whatever format, whereas if you use the plex app for playback there often needs to be a conversion that happens first.

overall i'm very happy with it and find that it meets all my COONSOOMING needs. i can do remote access when i'm traveling (through e.g. ipad) and also download videos offline. and i don't need to worry about streaming fees or shows i like getting yanked to another platform ever....it's all local

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272533)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 3:58 PM
Author: Boyish candlestick maker

i'm all over this, going to research nas options. any you'd recommend that are primarily ssd versus spinning disk that also have plex support w/ hardware based accel?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272546)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:04 PM
Author: irradiated plaza

you dont need ssd to stream, even 90+ mbps bitrate files. you will get more storage per $ from spinning disks.

i use nvidia shield tv pro as clients in my home. direct play. atmos, dv, hdr10+, it will play anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272571)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:15 PM
Author: dashing voyeur sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272612)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:36 PM
Author: Boyish candlestick maker

ty - learned so much from this thread. looking at picking up a qnap ts-464 + some disks to get this going.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272938)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:45 PM
Author: High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay

Shield works great but you can also get an awesome micropc with better statz for same price, like one of those Beelink units.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272996)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:44 PM
Author: irradiated plaza

ya but i have a remote shaped like a triangle, lmao.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47273600)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:15 PM
Author: dashing voyeur sanctuary

so i just bought an empty DS1621+ (on a black friday sale) and put my own drives in it. i got 2 16TB drives set up in SHR (so 16TB effective storage). because this is a media server, i did not even consider SSDs due to cost considerations. i've had it over a year and am only now down to about 25% of storage capacity (i also do backups of my main Mac).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272609)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:51 PM
Author: irradiated plaza

i was doing NAS for awhile and then i went all in and built a storage server that is on 24/7. server also handles home automation and home network. it has 8x8tb for storage, effective 59tb online, run by a supermicro jbod controller card (broadcom chip). it took awhile but i found software called stablebit drivepool which pools disks and presents as one drive, software striped, since it is slow moving data (media, backups, etc.) i am okay with this instead of raid or mirror. it also allows different make/model/capacity of drive and hot swap. since it is all one machine, i use crash42 small business crashplan which is unlimited cloud backup for $10 a month for one machine. i laugh that i backup over 30tb for $10 a month. i have been running this setup for almost 8 years now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47273631)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 10:08 PM
Author: dashing voyeur sanctuary

sounds cool. i considered building a server but just didn't want to deal with it at the end of the day. decided i really wanted a pre-configured solution. i also don't have the NAS backed up because the cloud solutions for NASes all seemed too spendy to be worth it for my use case and i can't be bothered with rotating USB drive shit for what's ultimately a server full of torrents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47273890)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:34 PM
Author: Naked kitty cat

download from piratebay and don't run executable files

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271569)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:45 PM
Author: Sooty area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271613)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:00 PM
Author: Cerise spectacular pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272551)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:02 PM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272561)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:10 PM
Author: vengeful excitant messiness piazza

Wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272591)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:12 PM
Author: irradiated plaza

wtf. use private torrent sites and skip vpn. i have never run vpn for torrenting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272602)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:14 PM
Author: vengeful excitant messiness piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272608)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: Sooty area

Yeah. It’s pretty funny how Big Corpo defeated piracy by…providing increasingly easier and easier interfaces to Consume, to the point where the population is now too dumb to consume via any method other than the official retail interfaces for products

The System ended up…unironically working, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271579)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:45 PM
Author: dashing voyeur sanctuary

hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271609)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271654)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:27 PM
Author: Tan unholy crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272887)



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Date: October 6th, 2025 1:50 PM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#49329257)



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Date: April 15th, 2026 12:56 PM
Author: Sooty area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#49819369)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:47 PM
Author: pink filthpig

imo it should be gen x into '83 or '84. but younger people have to know how to do this don't they?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271618)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: Chocolate stage philosopher-king

Younger people do not know what a "folder" is:

"Garland thought it would be an easy fix. She asked each student where they’d saved their project. Could they be on the desktop?

Perhaps in the shared drive? But over and over, she was met with confusion. “What are you talking about?” multiple students inquired.

Not only did they not know where their files were saved — they didn’t understand the question."

https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271636)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:50 PM
Author: Sooty area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271637)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271653)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:55 PM
Author: dashing voyeur sanctuary

had a double-reverse big willie when i saw "File not found" and thought it was a xo fake news piece, until i realized that was the title of the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271666)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:56 PM
Author: Chocolate stage philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271674)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:57 PM
Author: Tan unholy crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271678)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 12:59 PM
Author: High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271692)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 1:37 PM
Author: massive chapel private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47271919)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 2:07 PM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272032)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:01 PM
Author: Cerise spectacular pistol



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272553)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:19 PM
Author: Bateful Antidepressant Drug Hall



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272626)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:58 PM
Author: Naked kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272797)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 6:39 PM
Author: pink filthpig

same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47273199)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:22 PM
Author: autistic boltzmann karate

did IRC ever catch on with millennials?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272639)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:24 PM
Author: sticky university

twitter is based on IRC code.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272651)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 6:03 PM
Author: exciting laser beams

🧐

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47273076)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 6:59 PM
Author: carnelian stain

Twitch chat is literally an IRC server that you can join with irssi etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47273277)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:30 PM
Author: carnelian stain

I'm late millennial or early zoomer and still keep in touch with people I met on IRC around 2010

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272675)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:32 PM
Author: High-end Mahogany Cuckoldry Lay

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272681)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 4:57 PM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water

1800

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272791)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:17 PM
Author: massive chapel private investor

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47272849)



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Date: October 6th, 2025 1:54 PM
Author: Crimson dingle berry dilemma

(Guy who was a part of a Pedo Ring)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#49329286)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: Irate Seedy Abode Internal Respiration

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2068879&forum_id=2#47269675

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5473723&forum_id=2...#47273606)



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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:49 PM
Author: jade vigorous trailer park ceo

pirating is fun, i have a 50 tb plex server on a 10 gig connection & have it automated to where it downloads basically every movie and show (except marvel shit) and share it with tons of people. Btw nobody watches movies on it i think everyone's attention spans have been destroyed

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Date: January 10th, 2024 5:57 PM
Author: Soul-stirring White Boiling Water



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Date: January 10th, 2024 10:06 PM
Author: Cerise spectacular pistol



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Date: January 10th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: Irate Seedy Abode Internal Respiration



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