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America is barely even a first world country

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why...
Slimy range
  09/25/13
I blame so-called diversity. America is doing GREAT if you e...
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  09/25/13
and west virginia
Slimy range
  09/25/13
it's still not spectacular even if you do that, but the impo...
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its more likely wed be a chinese style state: free market au...
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i have devised a final solution to this problem.
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this. racism actually provides a sort of distraction for ...
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what is the average weight of birdshit america? divorc...
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Didn't read article. Why's having great prisons necessary fo...
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the reason this won't work is a lot people would just commi...
erotic stirring mad-dog skullcap
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societies with high levels of altruism, community norms, per...
Heady tan orchestra pit idea he suggested
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3 good hots. a nice bed. internet. tv. gym. health care. den...
erotic stirring mad-dog skullcap
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I forgot to mention that these countries also have flatter i...
Heady tan orchestra pit idea he suggested
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who doesn't? we are up there with feudal europe.
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You could easily make a list of a million reasons why Americ...
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TIRED OF WINNING
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TIRED OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS
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superior anglo culture
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maybe sit this one TF out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...
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damn bro tons of schoolkids in korea getting shot up daily
impertinent parlour
  08/12/25
white men at american colleges dont get shot though for sure
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  09/11/25
white females dont get shot daily either
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  09/11/25
like the one in minnesota
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like portland
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and maine
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Its what I'd call a "fourth world" country. It has...
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most americans don't even have $1,000 saved up for an emerge...
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too bad no faggy "apps" cause sterilization
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It's almost like the rise of the nuclear family destroys cul...
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it's barely a 3rd world country
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is the implication that america is third world because we do...
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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:06 AM
Author: Slimy range

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/09/why-scandinavian-prisons-are-superior/279949/?google_editors_picks=true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109834)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:07 AM
Author: Vivacious mint den cuckoldry

I blame so-called diversity. America is doing GREAT if you exclude the browns and blacks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109838)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:09 AM
Author: Slimy range

and west virginia

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:11 AM
Author: Heady tan orchestra pit idea he suggested

it's still not spectacular even if you do that, but the important thing to remember is that an america without minorities would be a socialist paradise much like sweden because we'd have higher levels of social trust which would help every single institution function better, political shitparties wouldn't be able to exploit racial divisions to pwn us with their corporatist agendas, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109847)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:20 AM
Author: zombie-like house

its more likely wed be a chinese style state: free market authoritarianism. the capitalist narrative is too strong in are country types to allow for socialism, but they give zero fucks about corporatism or really even corruption

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109874)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:23 AM
Author: erotic stirring mad-dog skullcap

i have devised a final solution to this problem.

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Date: September 25th, 2013 6:21 AM
Author: Snowy free-loading kitty coldplay fan

this.

racism actually provides a sort of distraction for Americans. without racism, it'd just be outright ruthless competition with everyone like China.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109996)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:08 PM
Author: clear french chef striped hyena

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:31 AM
Author: galvanic lodge filthpig

what is the average weight of birdshit america?

divorce rate?

meth addiction?

education levels?

ljl birdshit amerikkka is not doing great u dumb moron

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#44575767)



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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:22 AM
Author: galvanic lodge filthpig

Yes US birdshits are so thin and gorgeous with great family values and working hard studying STEM and stuff not snorting meth all day and trying to rape 12yo AZN girls.... Good stuff!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#47530791)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:07 PM
Author: clear french chef striped hyena

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:14 AM
Author: flickering stubborn private investor

Lol

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:15 AM
Author: razzmatazz costumed sound barrier

Didn't read article. Why's having great prisons necessary for being a first world country? IMO, it would be better to have NO prisons at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109863)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:17 AM
Author: erotic stirring mad-dog skullcap

the reason this won't work is a lot people would just commit crimes to get put in a sweet living situation that is way better than you can achieve on the outside. the dude who shot up the camp surely live better than debt strapped millenials.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109870)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:35 AM
Author: Heady tan orchestra pit idea he suggested

societies with high levels of altruism, community norms, personal investment in the public good, etc, can get away with it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109897)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:42 AM
Author: erotic stirring mad-dog skullcap

3 good hots. a nice bed. internet. tv. gym. health care. dentist. shrinks if you need it. better than i have lived since leaving ug.

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Date: September 25th, 2013 4:57 AM
Author: Heady tan orchestra pit idea he suggested

I forgot to mention that these countries also have flatter income distributions than the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109923)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 5:18 AM
Author: erotic stirring mad-dog skullcap

who doesn't? we are up there with feudal europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#24109954)



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Date: September 25th, 2013 6:15 AM
Author: boyish hell genital piercing

You could easily make a list of a million reasons why America sucks, but this isn't one of them

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Date: June 3rd, 2020 1:04 AM
Author: impertinent parlour

TIRED OF WINNING

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Date: May 26th, 2022 2:58 AM
Author: impertinent parlour

TIRED OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:29 AM
Author: impertinent parlour

superior anglo culture

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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:13 AM
Author: impertinent parlour



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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:15 AM
Author: hairraiser boltzmann

maybe sit this one TF out

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seung-Hui_Cho

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Date: August 12th, 2025 1:18 AM
Author: impertinent parlour

damn bro tons of schoolkids in korea getting shot up daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#49177211)



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Date: September 11th, 2025 2:03 AM
Author: impertinent parlour

white men at american colleges dont get shot though for sure

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Date: September 11th, 2025 6:47 PM
Author: impertinent parlour

white females dont get shot daily either

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Date: January 7th, 2026 7:09 PM
Author: impertinent parlour

like the one in minnesota

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Date: January 7th, 2026 7:39 PM
Author: impertinent parlour

It's absolutely fine.

Date: January 29th, 2017 9:49 PM

Author: lawman8

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3508473&forum_id=2#32494554

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#49570636)



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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:15 PM
Author: impertinent parlour

like portland

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Date: January 8th, 2026 8:26 PM
Author: impertinent parlour

and maine

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Date: July 14th, 2026 9:03 PM
Author: nyuug



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Date: July 14th, 2026 9:42 PM
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Date: January 7th, 2026 11:24 PM
Author: impertinent parlour



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Date: January 8th, 2026 1:08 AM
Author: impertinent parlour



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Date: January 8th, 2026 6:34 PM
Author: impertinent parlour



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:18 PM
Author: impertinent parlour



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Date: January 8th, 2026 7:55 PM
Author: impertinent parlour



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Date: January 7th, 2026 8:49 PM
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Date: January 7th, 2026 9:17 PM
Author: hairraiser boltzmann

YEAH superior gook culture where teachers stab innocent 8 year olds is much better! DURR DURR

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj3zer88yrzo

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Date: September 14th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: impertinent parlour



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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:57 PM
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Date: August 17th, 2025 5:44 PM
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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: impertinent parlour



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Date: August 21st, 2025 6:46 PM
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:56 AM
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Date: September 15th, 2025 8:25 PM
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Date: September 16th, 2025 8:38 PM
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 8:32 PM
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Date: September 24th, 2025 8:14 PM
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Date: October 7th, 2025 10:32 PM
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Date: October 13th, 2025 8:05 PM
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Date: October 15th, 2025 1:43 AM
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Date: July 15th, 2024 12:20 AM
Author: impertinent parlour

PRESIDENTIAL SHOOTINGS

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Date: July 16th, 2024 6:43 PM
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Date: September 15th, 2025 10:46 PM
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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:07 PM
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Date: September 28th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: impertinent parlour

MUH MICHIGAN MORMONS

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Date: October 2nd, 2025 1:00 AM
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Date: October 15th, 2025 8:48 PM
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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:09 PM
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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:19 PM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:21 AM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 4:27 AM
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Date: March 27th, 2024 8:31 PM
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Date: April 2nd, 2024 9:36 PM
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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:31 AM
Author: galvanic lodge filthpig

Its what I'd call a "fourth world" country. It has TONS of things that dont exist in real first world countries like gun violence or mass obesity but these things also don't exist in most "third world" countries. The US is really unique in how furking shit it is. Truly amazing what a shithole country has been created, Mexico looks like it has a brighter future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2370672&forum_id=2...id#44575766)



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Date: July 14th, 2026 9:03 PM
Author: william james binney



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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:34 AM
Author: vibrant really tough guy factory reset button

most americans don't even have $1,000 saved up for an emergency. even syrian refugees could come up with a few grand to escape when the war started.

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:35 AM
Author: impertinent parlour

jfc

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:39 AM
Author: Vivacious mint den cuckoldry

Yet somehow the proles I work with all have the latest "phone" with every accessory hmmm

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Date: May 26th, 2022 3:45 AM
Author: vibrant really tough guy factory reset button

too bad no faggy "apps" cause sterilization

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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:11 PM
Author: tripping diverse mother public bath

It's almost like the rise of the nuclear family destroys cultures

You know is doing fine? Proles who live near extended family. Got a kid? Fifty different cousins can come by to take care of the kid when you're sick or have to travel for work.

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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:10 PM
Author: awkward drab shrine faggotry

it's barely a 3rd world country

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Date: June 22nd, 2022 12:20 PM
Author: buff whorehouse tattoo

Lololol. Oh jeez what is the difference? What policy do the Scandinavians have that we just need to adopt that will make everything here work like everything there?

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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:20 PM
Author: Mischievous Sanctuary Police Squad



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Date: March 27th, 2024 12:23 AM
Author: galvanic lodge filthpig

The US was never first world anyway these terms are stupid now so much of what u birdbrains consider third world does many things better than US... Like wtf are there barely any hobos or mentally deranged or fats in Laos

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Date: August 14th, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: Balding aqua love of her life

is the implication that america is third world because we dont have enough Anders Breiviks and we don't reward them with things like Console Gaming for their Acts of Heroism

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Date: July 14th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: CDC Director Joseph A. Ladapo

the thing with heavy capitalism is that there is always a winner and always a loser. socialist or semi-socialist societies like the Nordics don't have this. so if we get rid of the browns there will simply be a fat, stupid white underclass to replace them and soon enough they will do everything we chastise the browns for today. trust me, there are plenty of them, everywhere

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