Date: August 3rd, 2026 3:35 PM
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i'm just repoasting some early hot takes, fwiw.
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nick kokonas
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I downloaded and reviewed NYC's grocery store RFP... as someone who has built biz's and bought a lot of food... wow.
Forget for a moment whether or not the govt should own a grocery store. Let's review the doc instead.
Here you go... /1
12:17 PM · Aug 3, 2026
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nick kokonas
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NYC strongly prefers bidders who commit to all 5 stores. But 3 of the 5 sites haven’t been identified. Bidders are supposed to price unknown stores in unknown neighborhoods by assuming they’re “about 15,000 sq ft.” Absurd.
nick kokonas
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Bidders get preference for operating all 5 stores, presumably b/c scale lowers costs. But NYC awards each store separately, so an all-5 bidder may win only 1. They want scale pricing while refusing to award scale.
nick kokonas
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The stores must use a “limited SKU” model. They must also carry full grocery departments, household goods, culturally specific products, plus kosher, halal, vegan, gluten-free, dairy-free and diabetic options. Pick one.
nick kokonas
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The RFP says stores won’t have deli counters or on-site food prep. Then its Core Basket includes chicken salad, egg salad, potato salad, fruit salad and other deli-prepared foods. So, a deli w/o a deli.
Oh... you're going to ship them in every day prepared. Gotcha...
nick kokonas
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NYC chooses and pays for the design, equipment, refrigeration and fitout. The operator pays utilities, maintenance, cleaning and security. So NYC makes the capital decisions while someone else pays for the consequences.
That's how they control the goalposts.
nick kokonas
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The “best” bid promises 30% discounts, best-in-class wages/benefits, local sourcing, sustainability, community programs and full-time jobs. Then 20% of the score goes to whoever claims they need the least subsidy. Lowballing is the strategy.... and then cost overruns are guar.
nick kokonas
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Core Basket discounts must be universal “sticker prices,” not promotions. Then the operator must create a membership card to “implement the discount program.” Which is it? Universal shelf price or an ID card system -- btw, also says it's available to all people...
nick kokonas
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and it doesn't even properly target their goals b/c the subsidy isn’t targeted. No means test. Anyone can shop there. So taxpayers will subsidize groceries for affluent shoppers who happen to live nearby, while needy families elsewhere get zero.
nick kokonas
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I always *thought* that this was a terrible idea. They could much better help people with $$ and hey, there are already programs that they could expand.
But after reading -- now I *know* it's a ridiculous idea.
We have an efficient system... just change the outcomes.
nick kokonas
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so naturally one asks -- why would they *want* to build crappy grocery stores that have conflicting goals and will be mismanaged? Because either that's the goal... or else they have no idea how to actually craft an RFP or run a business.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5887456&forum_id=2...id..#50042969)