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i don't want to out self, but i've also given some extraordinarily high level presentations where i drank beforehand and got commended as them being some of the best a really, really high level audience had seen.
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women reported it. |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 12:08 AM Author: red vigorous address So prosecutor then. Why not just do solo crime defense once you had to leave? Make a website, do a handful of DUIs every month, take some sex cases here and there, maek it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34659802) |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 12:26 AM Author: Frum dun bawdyhouse dragon my dad was a solo crime defense. he ended up horribly depressed and a mess. so i think that weighs on me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34659912) |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 12:57 AM Author: red vigorous address May not have been the job. IME these people are some of the happiest lawyers you will ever meet. I am sure you dealt with plenty of them. And let's be blunt, other than the hassle of a lot of hearings and dealing with your dirtbag clients, it's usually pretty easy work if you're familiar with the jurisdiction.
It's just a thought. It seems like one of the few ways to be a lawyer but really have a lot of time and energy to pursue other things you're interested in. |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 11:05 PM Author: Frum dun bawdyhouse dragon it's badddddd. I don't put much into the Myers Briggs thing, but has there ever been a woman who is a P? They are all judgmental as fuck, and just looking for reasons to fuck people over for not strictly following some rule in their minds. Everything is an affront.
Work performance means fuck all.
I actually think that's what it's about. They want rule following to supplant work performance. |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 10:47 PM Author: Stubborn Spectacular Electric Furnace An employee of mine ordered a beer at lunch once. I wasn't pleased but he was good at his job so I didn't care. Plus at the time I went home and drank a pitcher of margaritas every night so who was I to judge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34659257) |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 10:50 PM Author: Primrose Community Account It probably will make it easier. Just the process of articulating this stuff should help.
Also, as with anything, the first IRL person will be the hardest. Once that is out of the way the others will be easier. |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 10:54 PM Author: Frum dun bawdyhouse dragon for me, i had to go to this horrible lawyers' AA group at first. which i guess for some people works. for me, it made me want to drink way more. it was horribly depressing. they were all older. holding hands and chanting out of a book. they had killed people in DUIs. i couldn't take it. it's like telling someone they have to join a religious cult.
and they were looking for ways to fire me in the meantime, regardless. it was one of many bad times in my recent years.
for me, i need to get away from the shaming and people giving me shit about drinking. they don't get that. they think talking about it makes it better. actually, talking about it makes them feel better, and they don't care that it is a huge trigger for me. i'm really sensitive to external emotions. probably 100th percentile. most people have no idea. |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 11:03 PM Author: Frum dun bawdyhouse dragon it's not feasible. it might be for some really broken older lawyers at their last straw. who probably have religion in their lives. but it's a scam. and it's utter BS they make you do that if you are caught having a beer at lunch, and alcohol on your breath one morning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34659355) |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: red vigorous address Forcing people to do treatment really seems like it's more about shaming and labeling than it is true recovery. Any intelligent person knows that most 'treatment' is scammy and a waste for people with normal intelligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34659380) |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 11:09 PM Author: Frum dun bawdyhouse dragon people are dumb. they either want to feel superior, or just don't get what people in bad times are going through. i think it's closer to scarlet letter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34659398) |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 11:16 PM Author: Frum dun bawdyhouse dragon So I recently had to quit a job that was in the other career I had that was somewhat related to law, but not law. A friend said she'd get my resume to the opposite office of the government law I once did. But I know the HR woman from my prior gov job would shut it down, because I know she stopped me from getting a good job already. Which is why I stopped putting it on my resume.
FTGE.
So, basically, my advice to all, is be a Puritan in a lib culture. |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 12:12 AM Author: red vigorous address I have to tell you brother, you're carrying some toxic and conflicted baggage over whatever happened. You fucked up, they treated you poorly, probably all parties detached with some bitterness. Do whatever you have to do to exorcise this shit from your mind because it will do nothing for you moving forward. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34659823) |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 12:23 AM Author: Frum dun bawdyhouse dragon if you knew it all, you'd be pretty sympathetic.
i've had some really bad experiences. the gov't one was fine, except for what i talked about. the latest one, they couldn't blame on me one cent. that was all GC wringing you to fucking death. i did NOTHING wrong. i've read no one lasts more than 6 months. and two people quit in their first week, just from my small team, not flame. it's death. pure hell. i had nothing to do with quitting the most recent job other than the job being untenable. i'd been sober here for a long time. the job killed me and when i couldn't take it anymore i quit & went back.
i'll take responsibility for the other one, despite i don't think the issue then was handled well whatsoever.
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Date: November 11th, 2017 12:28 AM Author: red vigorous address I wasn't referring to the other jobs. I forgot that you have been struggling with bouncing around to all these different jobs.
But I would argue, based on your comments here and elsewhere, that you're carrying some kind of latent anger or disappointment that's fucking you over and clouding your judgment to some degree. Pure speculation, I know, but historically I am pretty good at identifying this kind of thing. |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 12:39 AM Author: Frum dun bawdyhouse dragon I've had some bad ones -- and, to me, that's on them. They want pure GC slaves. And I refuse.
But your greater point is still valid. I do have latent anger and disappointment. Mostly that people (family & friends) expect me to go through these horrible jobs just for status, not knowing anything about what they entail or ever having had to do them personally.
That bothers me. Their disapproving glances when I quit -- like something's wrong; you should do better -- when they don't know the reality.
And that hurts.
They think I'm a genius. I'm dumber than a Seattle Supermarket clerk.
Really, though, it's just not the field for me. I need to have creativity and freedom. I don't care about money. I come from a very creative, funny family. Staring at computer screens for 11 hours a day is suicidal. |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 1:02 AM Author: red vigorous address That's all reasonable but I sense that you are digging too hard on the 'being a lawyer is not for me' angle. You may be right and I don't know you at all, but it seems like you're working overtime to convince yourself that you can't practice law.
I'm not saying being a lawyer is so great. If you have some resentment over moving away from the profession and you were good at it, however, you may want to examine why you're invested in the idea that it doesn't suit you. |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 1:07 AM Author: Frum dun bawdyhouse dragon I get your psychological angle -- trust me -- I'm pretty good at that myself. And there's a sense of truth in it. But you can't discount the fact that I'm just not a person who is cut out to be, as one moniker puts it, a corporate slave. That concept kills me. I'll work 40 hours. with a lunch. I won't work 60 without one. And I'm not going to feel bad about it, even though my family is trying to make me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34660081) |
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Date: November 11th, 2017 1:12 AM Author: red vigorous address Fair but there are shitlaw jobs and other places to prosecute that give you a good a work-life balance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34660107) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 10:50 AM Author: histrionic stage Take it from a guy who has lived it:
You need to start tapering down your drinking and may need to go to AA - at least once to see what it is like so you have a reference point going forward about if you truly have a problem with drinking.
For me it went --> Drinking that ramped up in High School then into College it started to spiral out of control then got totally out of control because of burn-out and depression that turned into full blown alcoholism after I graduated.
THEN I put my life at risk being a fucking retard and only THEN I finally got my wake up call to get sober.
First I cut the hard stuff out. Hard booze is the enemy to alcoholics for a variety of reasons. Most "functioning" alcoholics I know are either late stage into Vodka OR they are beer/wine and have some semblance of functionality.
Your brain goes through a series of bargaining patterns with the addiction, so one of the "hacks" to get sober or at least get out of the hole is that I gave myself permission to keep drinking and said I was gonna stop drinking hard booze and switched to wine and beer.
Then I gradually tapered down from 2 bottles of wine or so a day, to one. Then to a six pack of beer, then to only like three or so a day and then went cold turkey.
From there I relapsed a few more times after between one month and three months of sobriety each try but it was worth it - a lot of people need a relapse to get sober in order to answer their "question" with booze.
Now I'm coming up on my third year sober and don't regret it.
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Date: November 18th, 2017 11:05 AM Author: histrionic stage It makes sense for a lot of reasons and has been done for centuries if not millennia.
If your not seeking medical advice to detox (which you should absolutely 100% do if you are drinking super hard), a gradual taper down is the safest way to do it.
It took me a few weeks to "taper" my drinking into "normal alcoholism" levels, which I stayed at for a month or so until I decided it was time to keep tapering down. I did this as an emergency provision to really get me out of my worst hole/worst binge. My life was so fucking dark at that point that I probably was drinking 14-20 drinks a day at my lowest point, every day, for a couple of months or so. Just total misery. If I went cold turkey I would have been really really screwed.
On the flip side, it also psychologically gives you the slightest bit of control back and that allows you to build a position of strength against the disease going forward as you keep tapering and eventually go cold Turkey.
If you do a taper well and have the control, you can probably be ready to give cold turkey a shot after like two or three months of gradual consumption reduction.
Remember though - you are not just "Switching to Beer" - because the alcoholic brain is going to want you to hit your regular intake level - so it could be 12 beers instead of having four or six shots or whatever which is still a problem. T
he major advantage in this situation is you are using progressively weaker types of alcohol to reduce the average chemical saturation in the brain and re-calibrating the alcoholic brain to lower "normal" levels of booze - eventually to the point where you stand a chance at giving sobriety a shot
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Date: August 5th, 2018 10:17 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36560255) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:45 PM Author: Ultramarine haunting pit Favorite
Date: November 18th, 2017 11:26 AM Author: ,,,,,;,,;,,;,,,;;,,;,,,,,,;,;,;,;,,;,;,,,,,,;;
They want me to do some intensive outpatient shit that will involve detox and some drug that makes you puke if you drink. I told them I couldnt commit to something like that while I got end of quarter shit at work to deal with, so they said at least stop drinking liquor
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2#34716789) |
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Date: May 6th, 2018 1:16 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library god these threads are great, go away you stupid alcoholic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35992769) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:45 PM Author: Ultramarine haunting pit 18th, 2017 10:53 AM Author: ,,,,,;,,;,,;,,,;;,,;,,,,,,;,;,;,;,,;,;,,,,,,;;
The stuff about switching to beer is something Ive heard from a lot of people, including my doc.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2#34716663) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2017 10:10 PM Author: Fragrant theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34825460) |
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Date: October 2nd, 2018 8:25 AM Author: wonderful messiness Thank you for sharing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36938526) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 11:38 AM Author: Cruel-hearted orchestra pit factory reset button Long time AA member here. I realized I was an alcoholic because I got this bottomless pit feeling when drinking that I felt like I needed to fill with all the booze I could find, and I regularly ended up changing my mind and getting drunk at times I originally planned not to. I decided to quit when the occurring and impending consequences got scarier than losing my main coping mechanism and source of fun. I tried all the moderation and other treatment options without success. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34716841) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: Fragrant theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34725787) |
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Date: November 29th, 2017 11:19 PM Author: Fragrant theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34803238) |
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Date: November 29th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: Ultramarine haunting pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34803262) |
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Date: November 29th, 2017 11:21 PM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34803257) |
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Date: November 29th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: Fragrant theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34803274) |
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Date: November 29th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: Nubile Erotic Really Tough Guy Crackhouse lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34803296) |
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Date: November 30th, 2017 11:57 PM Author: Fragrant theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34811414) |
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Date: December 1st, 2017 12:05 AM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34811464) |
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Date: December 1st, 2017 8:08 AM Author: 180 Ivory School Mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34812675) |
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Date: December 1st, 2017 10:10 AM Author: Nubile Erotic Really Tough Guy Crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34813392) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2017 5:42 PM Author: Fragrant theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34823525) |
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Date: December 2nd, 2017 5:55 PM Author: 180 Ivory School Mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34823609) |
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Date: December 5th, 2017 11:57 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34844183) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 5:10 PM Author: Fragrant theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34884252) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 5:14 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library LOL WLMAS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34884286) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 5:16 PM Author: Nubile Erotic Really Tough Guy Crackhouse (quisling) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34884298) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 5:21 PM Author: Ultramarine haunting pit Lol you fucking incel alkie nigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34884317) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 11:00 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34889379) |
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Date: December 12th, 2017 8:55 PM Author: Fragrant theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34902664) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 10:17 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library Leave us alone you stupid fucking drunk WLMAS. It's incredible you havent been banned again you fucking spammer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34923216) |
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Date: December 14th, 2017 10:29 PM Author: Fragrant theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34923333) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 5:19 PM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34936855) |
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Date: December 16th, 2017 5:25 PM Author: Ultramarine haunting pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34936905) |
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Date: December 22nd, 2017 10:54 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34983758) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2017 11:06 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34991203) |
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Date: December 24th, 2017 12:01 PM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#34998122) |
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Date: January 5th, 2018 12:55 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35085460) |
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Date: January 5th, 2018 1:16 AM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35085614) |
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Date: January 7th, 2018 10:59 AM Author: turquoise filthpig library Seems like hes still on the sauce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35101474) |
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Date: January 11th, 2018 11:42 PM Author: 180 Ivory School Mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35137398) |
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Date: January 15th, 2018 9:42 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35159372) |
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Date: February 11th, 2018 1:02 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library You drunk again today you dumb nig nog? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35376744) |
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Date: February 11th, 2018 6:53 PM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35379294) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:13 PM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35433465) |
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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:14 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone motley brunch sex offender in 2008 we'd laugh at you for thinking about um law. now... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35433472) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 8:46 PM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35572992) |
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Date: March 27th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library LOL you dumb nig, you're lucky you're not disbarred or jailed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35702348) |
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Date: April 10th, 2018 10:25 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library Reminder: WLMAS drinks before trials. Should he be disbarred? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35812121) |
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Date: April 12th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35824156) |
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Date: April 21st, 2018 1:01 PM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35888525) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2018 9:33 AM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35899137) |
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Date: May 6th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Mind-boggling twinkling locus black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#35992613) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: adventurous painfully honest parlour LMAO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36090420) |
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Date: June 4th, 2018 5:27 PM Author: titillating famous landscape painting forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36183045) |
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Date: June 11th, 2018 7:39 AM Author: turquoise filthpig library LOL you alcoholic nig nog, stop spamming the board with your drunken rants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36222028) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:02 PM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36420063) |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 2:56 AM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36423968) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36443867) |
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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:06 PM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36660110) |
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Date: August 27th, 2018 8:17 AM Author: turquoise filthpig library Dumb nog is spamming again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36692493) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2018 8:50 PM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36734599) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2018 11:39 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36736874) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2018 12:41 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library WLMAS, hows the sobriety going you dumb nig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36737109) |
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Date: September 14th, 2018 5:00 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library Halp! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36809272) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library Little dork keeps changing his pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36825456) |
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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:01 AM Author: wonderful messiness You have a poor capacity for empathy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36855573) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 10:24 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36847738) |
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Date: September 29th, 2018 10:36 AM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#36920875) |
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Date: October 14th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37020110) |
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Date: October 29th, 2018 11:30 AM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37117278) |
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Date: November 10th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library L O L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37204952) |
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Date: November 10th, 2018 4:57 PM Author: Stubborn Spectacular Electric Furnace Bumping this is faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37205001) |
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Date: November 24th, 2018 9:49 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37291415) |
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Date: November 25th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37297263) |
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Date: November 30th, 2018 10:02 AM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37326353) |
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Date: November 30th, 2018 10:03 AM Author: cerebral prole national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37326357) |
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Date: November 30th, 2018 10:05 AM Author: Thriller stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37326364) |
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Date: December 12th, 2018 7:59 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37398349) |
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Date: December 12th, 2018 8:00 PM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37398354) |
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Date: December 18th, 2018 10:51 AM Author: turquoise filthpig library It seems AA did NOT work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37426659) |
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Date: January 5th, 2019 11:01 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37535531) |
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Date: January 10th, 2019 1:50 AM Author: 180 Ivory School Mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37564018) |
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Date: January 18th, 2019 9:18 AM Author: swashbuckling awkward range Running list of OP's alts:
Date: January 1st, 2019 8:15 PM Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
this ^ is WLMAS account #1 Collected list of *CURRENT* WLMAS alt accounts. Very sad (and sick!) guy!
#1
Author: \"\"\"\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\"\'\'\'( )
#2
fscknut
#3
Author: \"\"\"\'\'\"\'\"
#4
Author: \'\'\'\"\'\'\'\'\"\'\'\"
#5
Author: \'\'\"\'\"\"\"\'\'\'\'
#6
Author: ..,..,....,,.,,....,,,,.,
#7
Author: \"\'\'\"\'\"\"\'\"\'
#8
Author: \"\"\"\'\'\"\"\'\'
#9
Author: \'\"\"\"\"\'\"
#10
Author: ..,.,;:.,:;,:;,..,;;:,;
#11
Author: \'\'\'\'\'\'\'\"\'\"
#12
Author: \"\"\"\"\'\'\"\'\"
#13
Author: \'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\'\"\'
#14
Author: \"\"\'\"\'\'\"\'\"\'
#15
Author: \"\"\"\"\'\'\"\'\"
#16
Author: \"\'\"\'\'\'\'\'\"\"\'
#17
jack sikma
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Author: :;:;::::;;;;;:::.;;,.;;;,.;;
#19
Author: \"\"\"\'\'\'\"\"\'
#20
Author: ;;;..;..;;;..
#21
Author: \"\"\'\"\'\'\"\'\"\'
#22
Author: .,.,,.,.,.,:
#23
Author: \'\'\"\'\"\"\"\'\'\'\'
#24
Author: \'\"\"\"\"\'\"
#25
Author: \'\"\'\"\"\'\"
#26
Author: ..,,.,,,.,
#27
Trip McNeely
#28
Author: \'\'\'\'\"\"\"\'\'
On the watch list:
Author: \'\'\'\'\"\'\'\"\"\"\'
Author: \'\"\"\'\'\'\'\"\"\'\'\"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4167272&forum_id=2#37509533) |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:27 AM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line Current updated running list right here: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4167334&mc=12&forum_id=2 |
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Date: January 19th, 2019 1:26 AM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line Date: January 28th, 2016 11:58 PM Author: ,.,.,.,.,.,. , . . . , . . . . . . , . . . ;
tbf i was snowed in and drunk whereas petumkin is a jerbless shutin
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#) |
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Date: February 3rd, 2019 8:07 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37718415) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2019 3:27 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37648638) |
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Date: March 26th, 2019 9:10 AM Author: pink state Did you go? Were you called up to the majors? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#37992057) |
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Date: April 17th, 2019 6:16 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library Fucking LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#38102917) |
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Date: April 21st, 2019 10:09 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library HAHAHAHA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#38121678) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2019 7:14 AM Author: territorial psychic heaven lol at petumkin, kenny, Charlie Brown & Henry Aaron circle jerking ITT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#38477349) |
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Date: July 24th, 2019 9:27 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library You KNOW he’s drinking tonight (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#38583322) |
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Date: February 10th, 2020 3:18 PM Author: turquoise filthpig library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#39572088) |
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Date: April 14th, 2020 8:42 AM Author: rough-skinned copper fat ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#40011207) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2020 7:03 AM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#40964844) |
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Date: January 9th, 2021 8:41 AM Author: 180 Ivory School Mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#41715868) |
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Date: May 30th, 2021 10:38 PM Author: 180 Ivory School Mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#42547647) |
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Date: February 29th, 2024 2:43 AM Author: violet galvanic pervert personal credit line great thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#47449775) |
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Date: February 16th, 2026 10:47 AM Author: multi-colored fishy university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3792970&forum_id=2...id..#49673794) |