Chatgpt pro ($200/month) is 100% worth it in LAW
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Date: August 13th, 2025 4:23 PM Author: puce home
All bluebook citations are accurate, filing is crisp, 40+ page startlingly intricate and accurate law. Prompt was three/four long paragraphs detailing precisely what I wanted--not some offhand find it shit from a partner, PLEASE note. I had a lot of familiarity with the subject.
But wow. Wow wow wow. 30 mins and it generated a masterpiece. Litigators who naysay it are either 1) poor prompt engineers (likely) 2) too cheap/poor to afford pro
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49182280) |
Date: August 13th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: 180 hyperventilating azn base
yeah if you're doing anything real you gotta use a reasoning model and have it think a long time
you should basically write the prompt like an email instruction to an assistant, too. give it as much context as possible. you can just ask it how to best prompt it btw. in general the best way to figure out the best way to get what you want from AI is to ask the AI
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49182321) |
Date: August 13th, 2025 5:00 PM Author: beady-eyed wild cruise ship liquid oxygen
I've found the opposite; the vast majority of its current utility is in the standard searches that you can get for $20/mo. (To be clear: (a) no fucking lawyer is too poor to pay $200/mo. version; and (b) everyone should in fact get pro, for several reasons, probably first among them that you'll develop the best user skills that keep you most abreast of the tech as it advances.) Pro still 100% does not find magic-bullet fact-to-fact cases that you still need to do 3 hours of drudge work for. It is still maddeningly lazy about refusing -- outright refusing! -- to pull **every** federal districts' jury plan to look for certain language and categorize certain commonalities ("here's a table showing 8 plans! let me know if you want me to keep looking!").
The REAL turning point on AI in law will be when openAI finally integrates chatgpt into your discovery file to crawl around and look for shit. (Facts win cases, not law.) I'm hoping to see this within a year. Right now you can feed it bite-sized pieces, and the results, honestly, are not very impressive (but mostly because the inputs are not very large). But when it starts being able to watch and transcribe 773 hours of video and read 1.2M pages of text and tell me where are the places where subordinates raised concerns about possible MRSA outbreaks, where do you start to see the beginning signs of an outbreak, and for each decedent, create a timeline of their symptoms and reporting -- THAT will be useful. THAT will allow me to let go some of my entitled spoiled rich-kid shitlib associates from CLS.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49182371) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:04 PM Author: Cracking lake station ratface
the laziness is so fucking niggerish and weird
does it have good memory features compared to stadnard? like it will remeber al the past shit i put in well or i have to keep reminding it?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49182386)
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:11 PM Author: beady-eyed wild cruise ship liquid oxygen
I am actually really pro-AI; it's only in environments like xo -- with oodles of mid- to high-160s lsat scorers who believe strongly in futurism because people of their intellectual capacity were really supposed to be religious, but religion is dead -- where I'm constantly having to be like "lol there partner, let's not spaz your Emory hat off your head, or pee through your Michigan Law sweatpants over this."
No, to be honest I'm extremely unimpressed at the model's long-term memory. I tend to delete most of my threads after I'm done with them, but I also don't expect it to remember stuff from those threads; I don't know if this practice contributes to this issue. I have no idea why this happens and I do not view it as a 'core' criticism of AI (it also doesn't really bother me that much).
The laziness is so fucking bizarre it makes me want to snap sam altmans twiggy little fag arms off. Like half of what I want you to do is give me links to all ~50 fucking PDFs, goddamnit.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49182410) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:27 PM Author: puce home
Westlaw ai was better than lexis but is miles behind o3 pro and 5 research grade now, even with specific bluebook cites. There are no longer hallucinations using the $200 month model
I have no idea how openai coded it now but it's scary af.
Obviously I'm violating a million and one client confidentiality rules but if you dare to try it will be completely fucking shocked and convinced your career will soon be caput
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49182464) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:38 PM Author: puce home
Thank you dude, my thoughts too
While it is admittedly giving a lot of info to gpt, do you know how troublesome that discovery request would be for the other party to sit and wade through without AI? Oh wait then you could just send them a discovery request for THEIR gpt history. So there's an impasse, no?
I think gpt will quickly become like westlaw or lexis w/r/t discovery or bullshit like that. Just not realistic
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49182512) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 5:19 PM Author: irate crimson incel
"The REAL turning point on AI in law will be when openAI finally integrates chatgpt into your discovery file to crawl around and look for shit"
They turned this on like 2 weeks ago
I made a huge thread about it and have been using it daily to do doc reviews in the background
It went through 1,000 pages of discovery the other day while I was doing other stuff and sifted out 5 key docs for my mediation brief that would've taken me 10-20 hours to find
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49182430) |
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Date: August 13th, 2025 9:02 PM Author: irate crimson incel
90%+ of practicing attorneys like epah will never be capable of sophisticated prompting like the upper 99th percentile of AI shitlaw trailblazers on autoadmit
Their muscle memory and brains are too hard wired into doing rote doc review summaries + pdf tabbing + opening MS word to construct a brief from scratch using the same basic bitch boilerplate shit everyone has seen before
Litigators who don't have all that baggage and also have a knack for sophisticated cross-model prompting with customized backend/github plug ins and built in organic learning and refinement cycles will do better
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49183086) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 12:06 AM Author: tan trailer park deer antler
From Grok:
Subject: Don’t Forget, Jose
Hey Jose,
Just a little nudge to remind you that "everyone gets a shot" — yeah, even you. Also, in my four years of dodging insurance company nonsense, your facet syndrome is hands-down the most ridiculous case I’ve ever seen. Try not to make it worse, alright?
Cheers,
[Your Name]
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49183472) |
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Date: August 14th, 2025 12:10 AM Author: Elite ceo
I’m an tranny and our firm has done this.
It’s good but not perfect. I use it as a first cut for drafting specific clauses, to help me think through things, to get me conversant on a certain topic, etc. but I have yet to have it draft me anything that I could send out.
I’ve also used it to double-check my reading of agreements with respect to discrete questions. It’s again good but not great - it misses a lot of nuance.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762076&forum_id=2E#49183476) |
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