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debate report (Karlstack)

it wasn't livestreamed... it will be released on YouTube nex...
Karlstack
  06/19/26
Congrats, it’s good that you got some public speaking ...
Consuela
  06/19/26
it was really good experience public speaking. After the fir...
Karlstack
  06/19/26
you can tell me when it's over, was the prize worth the pa...
Frutiger Aero
  06/19/26
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Fucking Fuckface
  06/19/26
"He focused on, like, "Oh should children be allow...
aqua jeet
  06/19/26
1800000, excited to watch. so how does the winner get determ...
Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle
  06/19/26
it will be put on Youtube in a week or so, and there will be...
Karlstack
  06/19/26
all ten poasters will vote for you no matter what 💯 a...
Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle
  06/19/26
I am open to a public debate if we can find a good topic ...
Karlstack
  06/19/26
sounds 180, do you want pro or con?
Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle
  06/19/26
con I am really busy with irl duties for the next week or...
Karlstack
  06/19/26
sounds good to me! I'll be thinking about it in the back of ...
Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle
  06/19/26
email me if you want to set up logistics: chrisbrunet@proton...
Karlstack
  06/19/26
You two need to livestream this so we can watch/critique/vot...
Fucking Fuckface
  06/19/26
oh for sure. this will be for y'all's amusement as much as f...
Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle
  06/19/26
emailed! sent my irl identity for reciprocity
Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle
  06/19/26
180 on starship troopers
No Paye No Gain
  06/19/26
Hey man, great job. Sounds like you got what you wanted out...
Fucking Fuckface
  06/19/26
THIS IS not SPARTA!
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  06/19/26
Lol universal suffrage is actually a much more radical Socia...
military dictatorship nationalism
  06/19/26
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imlutheranbtw
  06/19/26
Dude, you're dumb. We get it. You don't need to keep running...
Fucking Fuckface
  06/19/26
Did you use the secret XO code word? (Scamdaddi)
Richard Ames
  06/19/26
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imlutheranbtw
  06/19/26
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aqua jeet
  06/19/26
reality (economic distortions tp
imlutheranbtw
  06/19/26
He won the debate with "Are you Canadian, my man?"
Judas Jones
  06/19/26
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imlutheranbtw
  06/19/26
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military dictatorship nationalism
  06/19/26
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So we looked at the data
  06/19/26
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Karlstack
  06/19/26
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my dog can log into xo more often than I can
  06/19/26


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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:34 PM
Author: Karlstack ( )

it wasn't livestreamed... it will be released on YouTube next week

Introduction Statements: Crushed my 5 minute statement about liberty and the founding fathers and the practical realities of what disenfranchising 95% of American adults would mean. My opponent's opening statement weirdly focused a lot on me being Canadian. He kept trying to bring up Canada the whole debate, shitting on Canada, and I brushed it aside and never took the bait.

Open Debate Round 1: I think this was my weakest section, he pushed me around a bit and repeatedly steered the conversation to high minded ideals like rights, privileges, responsibility, duty, honor entitlement, etc. This wasn't my strong suit and I froze up a couple times. Even when I write substacks, I am not good at preaching about big picture ideas, I typically thrive when I narrow in on one practical story.

Open Debate Round 2: This was much stronger for me, I was more comfortable and assertive and talked over him and pushed him around a bit, and importantly I steered the conversation completely away from high minded ideals to the practical reality (economic distortions, voting outcomes, etc.) of what would happen if 95% of Americans were disenfranchised... I made a strong case that a military electorate would be the most radical social experiment ever conducted, and yes, democracy is imperfect, but not so imperfect that it's worth blowing up western civilization / the status quo over

Moderator crossfire round: I think I won this round too, because it was mostly about definitions, and my opponent repeatedly kept trying to redefine or widen the scope of "military service" to "national service" that includes FEMA, volunteering, firefighting etc. but I shut that down and said he was weaseling out of the prompt, which was just about military service, not national service

Closing statement: I brought up ancient Sparta, Starship troopers, freedom, morality, political agency, what makes a good voter, wisdom, etc. and it went well. He focused on, like, "Oh should children be allowed to vote? Should a driving test be required to drive? Should children be allowed to drive?" and it was pretty retarded



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49948976)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:36 PM
Author: Consuela

Congrats, it’s good that you got some public speaking experience

Not a big fan of the topic tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49948981)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:37 PM
Author: Karlstack ( )

it was really good experience public speaking. After the first 15 minutes I was flowing much more freely and much more confident

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49948987)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:38 PM
Author: Frutiger Aero

you can tell me when it's over,

was the prize worth the pain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49948990)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:53 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949077)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:38 PM
Author: aqua jeet (🧐)

"He focused on, like, "Oh should children be allowed to vote? Should a driving test be required to drive? Should children be allowed to drive?" and it was pretty retarded"

bro if u didnt win this round u need to grow a beard asap

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49948992)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:38 PM
Author: Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle

1800000, excited to watch. so how does the winner get determined? great job putting yourself out there and developing your skills, no matter what happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49948994)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:40 PM
Author: Karlstack ( )

it will be put on Youtube in a week or so, and there will be a 48 hour voting period to determine who moves onto the next round

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949009)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:49 PM
Author: Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle

all ten poasters will vote for you no matter what 💯

also, THE PEOPLE ARE DEMANDING that you and I have a public debate, as I'm also trying to develop that skill. I'm going to be starting a Twitch stream soon where the concept is "choose my position and debate me" but I've never actually debated real-time before.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949046)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: Karlstack ( )

I am open to a public debate if we can find a good topic

maybe "Canada should be the 51st state"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949056)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:52 PM
Author: Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle

sounds 180, do you want pro or con?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949069)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:52 PM
Author: Karlstack ( )

con

I am really busy with irl duties for the next week or two but I will be free in a couple weeks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949070)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:54 PM
Author: Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle

sounds good to me! I'll be thinking about it in the back of my mind but won't start formally preparing or whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949078)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: Karlstack ( )

email me if you want to set up logistics: chrisbrunet@protonmail.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949081)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

You two need to livestream this so we can watch/critique/vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949083)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:02 PM
Author: Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle

oh for sure. this will be for y'all's amusement as much as for our own practice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949100)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: Howard Nutlick's demonic giggle

emailed! sent my irl identity for reciprocity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949104)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:39 PM
Author: No Paye No Gain

180 on starship troopers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49948999)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Hey man, great job. Sounds like you got what you wanted out of it and didn't let us down. Wish it had been live streamed, but will watch it when it comes out



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949082)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 2:58 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


THIS IS not SPARTA!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949091)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:02 PM
Author: military dictatorship nationalism

Lol universal suffrage is actually a much more radical Social Experiment than only military members "voting" (that's literally what the aristocracy was before the modern era)

Sounds like you just did a lot better prep than he did and thought about the rhetorical presentation better than he did. Good job. Can't wait to not watch the debate at all and vote for you as the winner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949101)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: imlutheranbtw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949133)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Dude, you're dumb. We get it. You don't need to keep running around like you've got all the answers that you conveniently won't share but that we should all just trust you because it's so obvious and lopsided in your head

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949149)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:07 PM
Author: Richard Ames

Did you use the secret XO code word? (Scamdaddi)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949119)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: imlutheranbtw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949135)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:28 PM
Author: aqua jeet (🧐)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949198)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:08 PM
Author: imlutheranbtw

reality (economic distortions tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949122)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: Judas Jones

He won the debate with "Are you Canadian, my man?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949156)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: imlutheranbtw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949162)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: military dictatorship nationalism



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949164)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: So we looked at the data



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949170)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 6:17 PM
Author: Karlstack ( )



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949832)



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Date: June 19th, 2026 6:21 PM
Author: my dog can log into xo more often than I can (thanks, Rach!)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5875612&forum_id=2E#49949844)