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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:12 AM Author: Azure Temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378030) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:14 AM Author: Sick Mildly Autistic Fortuitous Meteor Meetinghouse he lived way too long for an actual thug. a hardcore banger dies in street combat no later than 35 or so. living to age 60 is an absurd luxury that he was wrong to even attempt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378035) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:22 AM Author: Azure Temple he was just too successful in his thuggery. i don't blame him for wanting to keep the Death Row racket alive. they had some real names on there even after dre and snoop started branching out. nobody really predicted the popular turn to ny/east coast in the late 90s and 00s and by all accounts it seemed like it was going to stay as a california thing indefinitely regardless his career as a real banger was over when he got diced by MC hammer's crew of all people. some people say his "career" was over after the infamous bail hearing stroke out but it was done well before that he only seemed to respond in force when a big name went after him and ignored eazy-e/heller, ice cube, hammer, and i think even that one crip guy who was part of WC there were so many vids on Worldstar over the years of him getting slammed by random people in front of his bodyguards and staff that he became more of a joke than anything 2pac era suge went after anyone and everything that so much as looked at him wrong so i guess it's just another case of $hekel$ corrupting the real warrior soul of a man |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:25 AM Author: Azure Temple mid 00s i think even Punished "rhinestone bandana" Eminem in his ed hardy latina hooker shit was going after him without penalty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378056) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:29 AM Author: Jet-lagged Pistol Selfie People who talk about how cringe Eminem is now are right but when Encore dropped it was an even greater embarrassment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378070) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:31 AM Author: Azure Temple he had periods where he drifted in and out of that weird like Fueled By Ramen production shop aesthetic sound Encore era I think he was trying to emulate Timberlake's sound for more of a mass pop appeal (and sadly, it seemed to work iirc) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:32 AM Author: Jet-lagged Pistol Selfie JUST LOSE IT AHHH AHH AHH AHHH AHHH AHHH
GO CRAZY AHHH AHH AHHH AHH AHHH
on the radio like 5 times every day for months, right after that horrible 'eamon' song |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:36 AM Author: Azure Temple There were maybe 3-4 years in 00s pop music where the radio was just dead air Gwen Stefani (highly underrated, at least as a musician and not as an artist, post no doubt) and that was about it. Nickelback 🤢 |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:44 AM Author: Jet-lagged Pistol Selfie yeah agreed
2003-2005 is IMO largely just dead air for pop music and same with rock
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:48 AM Author: Azure Temple Room on fire was 02 or 03 Highly Evolved was the same either 02 or 03 I think those were great years for real Alt Rock but it was also when Billboard got into the field bigly and started trying to be the Authority on Life regarding what was and wasn't legible in the field For pop I only remember JT and Stefani really. Maybe a couple of the Latin artists but ~05 was when you really started having the big push for nigger shit all over the air (and that push was relentless) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:50 AM Author: Jet-lagged Pistol Selfie oh indie rock was doing well then but i meant like mainstream radio rock stuff
otoh you had the killers and franz ferdinand etc blowing up which was good (although towards the later end of the dead zone period i identified) and it's a pretty wild era when freaking modest mouse was able to get widespread name recognition
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:52 AM Author: Azure Temple Hard to call the Strokes or the Vines indie tho. And what really was "indie" in that era, pre-Pitchfork's spotlight? Casablancas had a silver spoon in his mouth as far as industry connections went; I've never really considered the Strokes or on to be indie stuff. "Indie" as we think of it now wasn't really a thing until the OWS era and onward. I think I was first introduced to it as a marketable "genre" in 09 or 10 at a show featuring cage the elephant and against me type stuff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378128) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:54 AM Author: Jet-lagged Pistol Selfie i respectfully disagree
if you were reading spin back then they were definitely constructing a concept of 'indie' similar to the 90s branding of 'alternative' |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:55 AM Author: Azure Temple i was not but i believe you. this was just my experience with it. "indie" as a label for a genre only hit a fever pitch around the arcade fire/foster the people era ime. until then it was just "alt rock" or "garage rock" the only spin i had was stuff bought second hand from the blur/oasis era and it was much more dance music focused than anything to do with what we'd later call american indie stuff i guess |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:23 AM Author: Coral really tough guy nah "indie", "college rock" etc were a big deal as far back as the 90s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378167) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:24 AM Author: Azure Temple really? i believe you guys but i didn't really see it personally iirc it got mainstream promotion as an alternative to alternative due to social and economic forces |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:12 AM Author: Coral really tough guy it existed as its own subculture on college radio stations and among Losers. mainstream was oblivious to it so you're not entirely wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378197) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 8:16 AM Author: Azure Temple devastating dick clock that man was a 7 year old. there's no mainstream for elementary schoolers i started listening to kroq on the computer internet around then and got most of my information from that until i discovered the wide world of music reviews. local FM was kind of spotty here but there was a good muzak/classical station until 09 or so and also a good 80s/90s station that played a lot of post-punk type stuff (the DJ in the evenings had a hardon for stuff like Inspiral Carpets and Depeche Mode) but i think it's a latin station now. last time i tuned in it was reggaeton/bacchata type stuff |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:06 AM Author: Azure Temple Is this gay sex and cum? Are we fags for having this light chit chat we'd have in line at Chipotle? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378143) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:00 AM Author: Azure Temple I would hazard a guess that that genre as it came to be had to be constructed as an alternative to "alt rock" which was mainly just a pool of fratty bro DMB/ska shit to give that OWS crowd an outlet for their fundamentally volkish frustrations (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378136) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:21 AM Author: floppy alcoholic parlour Rammstein - Reise, Reise Sportfreunde Stiller - Burli Wir Sind Helden - Die Reklamation Radiohead - Hail to the Thief Brand New - Deja Entendu MCR - Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge Incubus - A Crow Left of the Murder Kings of Leon - Youth and Young Manhood Charlie Brown Jr - Imunidade Musical
I feel like I am missing a ton of shit but this was peak alt rock. There were a ton of talented bands getting financial support from the record labels. Rock was still very mainstream. There was still a lot of CD sales. It was a mini silver age. Maybe for Green Day fans it was a fallow period. St. Anger too pissed a lot of people off. |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:24 AM Author: Azure Temple Haul to the Thief was seminal and probably peak for underrated Radiohead. T3 album imo and a rare artifact of white anger from the haze of the latter Dubya years (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378330) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:27 AM Author: Marvelous yarmulke affirmative action great subthread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378334) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:29 AM Author: floppy alcoholic parlour There, There routinely tops fan polls of best Radiohead song. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378338) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:33 AM Author: Azure Temple Thom Yorke's typical whininess really hit home with the vocal crescendos on Wolf at the Door That whole album is filled with lightly dusted gems For the record I also think In Rainbows was better than even OK Computer and Bodysnatchers off of that is probably my POTUS track by them |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:38 AM Author: floppy alcoholic parlour Love In Rainbows but I wouldn't say Bodysnatchers is the best.
Nude, Weird Fishes, House of Cards, Reckoner. Lot of tracks I would put ahead of Bodysnatchers. I feel like it was a guitar riff that never got built out all the way into a full song. |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:41 AM Author: Azure Temple It's euphoric in the way that a lot of crunchy layered MIDI dweeb stuff can be, which is the genre Yorke would've found himself working in if he had started his music career 7-10 years later than he did. It's the most spiritually Radiohead song that doesn't actually sound like Radiohead Reckoner and Weird Fishes are both very good too though |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:46 AM Author: floppy alcoholic parlour You sound like an 'Electioneering' type of guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378393) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:50 AM Author: Azure Temple not a bad track but tbh i find OK Computer to be overrated with a few great tracks and Kid A is basically unlistenable vis a vis competing albums from their contemporaries never got "karma police" as _the_ hit off of there in the same way that i never understood "new slang" being the stand-out on the shins debut album (full of far better tracks) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 10:19 AM Author: floppy alcoholic parlour You're completely wrong about Kid A. And OK Computer as well. Hard to take anything you say seriously. Kid A was an achievement as big as the Pyramids and if you don't get it it's because you're artistically defective. The best Shins song is Caring is Creepy and it's not close. New Slang seems like a watered down pop version of the Same Song. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378432) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 10:27 AM Author: Azure Temple it's overrated and while i include "temporality" or "context" in album reviews kid a doesn't really stand out even with the adjustment upwards for breaking the ground also outed as a guy who never had a fuzzy moonlit teenage romance https://youtu.be/XlukREZX-9c?si=7Wvsx5J_K8AJZQou
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Date: October 27th, 2025 10:37 AM Author: floppy alcoholic parlour It's not underrated though it is in fact criminally underrated. Your argument makes no sense. You just don't get it and don't like it which is fine. But saying songs like Everything In Its Right Place doesn't hold up? It's used all the time in trailers. Like it's borderline overused. I hear it all the time in mish mash internet content. The songwriting is top tier it's just over your head. You're trying to shit on something you don't understand. I don't understand free jazz but I don't go around telling people who like it that they're wrong. You're just an asshole and you've overrated your own intelligence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378482) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 10:49 AM Author: Azure Temple It's a good album. I just don't see it as particularly listenable and it's not something I'd pull off the shelf unless I was giving a music crit course and wanted to talk about Radiohead in particular All of the stuff you are saying about my very germane criticism of the album and your assumptions of my intent in saying as much are completely in your own head. I am not shitting on you for liking it (I think it's a respectable like and I could easily see why someone would consider it a personal favorite) and as I said I think it's pretty good (I think I gave it an 8 in my arbitrary itunes rating notes) albeit not their best work |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 10:58 AM Author: floppy alcoholic parlour But you're just fundamentally wrong. You continuously diss it and admit that you don't think it's good. If anything you are giving it an 8 rating because you think other people like it. You're not rating it based on how you actually feel. By your own admission you think it's like a 4 but you are calling it an 8 because you wouldn't want someone to see your iTunes and think you gave Kid A a lower score. I give Kid A a 10 because I really feel that way. I'm living a life of honesty and truth and beauty and you're cowering to the perception of others even when no one is watching. We are not the same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378528) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 11:02 AM Author: Azure Temple Let me try this again *ahem* We gonna kill all you mothafuckas. My 44 make sho yo album rating don't grow NIGGUH step the back up b4 you get smacked the fuck up And if you down with Kid A? Fuck you And if you down with Thom Yorke's solo stuff? Fuck you too We ride on you (category;~) Experimental electronic-acoustic indie pop sickle cell mothafuckas |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:15 AM Author: floppy alcoholic parlour Some of the greatest rock records of all time came out between 2003 and 2005 what are you talking about?
The Devil and God Are Raging Inside Me? Anyone? |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:26 AM Author: Jet-lagged Pistol Selfie scholarship
i think the popularization and mainstreaming of rap in general meant that the harder core stuff from the west coast just seemed increasingly outdated
i personally prefer west coast rap tho
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:28 AM Author: Azure Temple it's more real east coast has better lyricism but all the rawness and heart comes from that squelchy synth 70s derived ronnie hudson/george clinton west coast sound Geto Boys have more raw "feel" in a single track than Bad Boy had in their whole discography imo |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:29 AM Author: Jet-lagged Pistol Selfie cr cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378071) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:32 AM Author: Azure Temple jay z also looks and acts like bojack horseman and once i heard someone say that he was permanently "typed" in my book (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378086) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 6:33 AM Author: Jet-lagged Pistol Selfie oh wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378088) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:32 AM Author: Coral really tough guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378348) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:40 AM Author: Azure Temple https://ibb.co/PZv6xPfz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378369) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:11 AM Author: arousing useless personal credit line mid to late 90s NYC hip hop shit was light years ahead of pansy ass "west coast rap" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378300) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:28 AM Author: Azure Temple there is nothing "pansy" about outright threatening to murder your opposing counsel on a T5 EP imo "We gonna kill all you mothafuckas" coming from Pac's mouth still hits as hard now as it does back when I originally heard it. New York was on defense the entire time during that feud afaik |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:36 AM Author: arousing useless personal credit line "Pac" was a gay theater kid. It was all an act
west coast beats other than a couple Dr Dre beats were stupid and shitty. East Coast was miles better. |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:40 AM Author: carmine forum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNvxNMpt43A
this video blew my mind the first time i saw it, lol. this guy was a full-on homosexual. |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:45 AM Author: arousing useless personal credit line I sent this to all of my “Tupac” fan friends as soon as I saw this on xo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378390) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:47 AM Author: Azure Temple i posted it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378395) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:46 AM Author: Azure Temple he was groomed into that by his ultralib arts mom iirc. i used to side against him after seeing that but generally if you're being fair the bulk of his corpus stands on its own and his early life situation (bizarre and fucked up, from reports i've read) doesn't really matter in light of that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378392) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:55 AM Author: Insecure trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378410) |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:37 PM Author: Emerald Vivacious Nursing Home agreed, insane - never could have imagined this in the 1990s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49380825) |
Date: October 27th, 2025 9:40 PM Author: Emerald Vivacious Nursing Home yeah there were reports for years about him beating guys, holding them over balconies to threaten them, even killing guys. still he was doing fine and living the high life.
but then when you kill a guy at a burger stand on surveillance camera, it all comes crashing down
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suge-knight-sentenced-28-years-behind-bars-fatal-hit-run-n916671 |
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Date: October 27th, 2025 9:43 PM Author: Azure Temple hmm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5790305&forum_id=2Vannesa#49380839) |