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29 is the dullest ofthe femposters - no distinct personality, no good content

Annoying as Julia is, she at least is a complete "chara...
Salmon Bespoke Half-breed
  11/06/17
She's also a mod and has been deleting threads that are &quo...
chestnut apoplectic rehab
  11/06/17
wtf
Salmon Bespoke Half-breed
  11/06/17
...
Titillating sanctuary laser beams
  11/06/17
I heard she’s hot
razzle aquamarine theater stage
  11/06/17
Have you also heard watchmen is a baller 28 y/o multimillion...
Titillating sanctuary laser beams
  11/06/17
He made millions while posting full time on xo for years. No...
kink-friendly pontificating rigpig
  11/06/17
she's not hot. i'm not gonna repost the pic but what she pos...
shimmering brunch wrinkle
  11/06/17
cr this is one of the sillier flames on xo. she’s a standard...
Titillating sanctuary laser beams
  11/06/17
hhnnggghhh
passionate blood rage house
  11/06/17
titcrhhnnggghhh
Turquoise Deep Psychic Casino
  11/06/17
i'd still do her.
razzle aquamarine theater stage
  11/06/17
No. That was just an unflattering picture.
chocolate exhilarant kitchen pozpig
  11/06/17
lol people don't willfully post unflattering pics on xo. yea...
Bistre bawdyhouse
  11/06/17
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bateful amethyst boltzmann mediation
  01/26/18
More like a 3 iirc
Fantasy-prone 180 volcanic crater
  05/12/25
To whiteknight JUST A LITTLE here, at least she wasn’t...
rough-skinned set
  08/10/25
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Histrionic plaza depressive
  11/06/17
Only malepoasters that like her are people like MPA that are...
electric international law enforcement agency mad-dog skullcap
  11/06/17
Never cared for 29. Always thought she was boring and racist...
Underhanded Maroon Main People Juggernaut
  11/06/17
i dont even mind that she's racist. i just wish she'd admit ...
gay out-of-control elastic band
  11/06/17
she's such a dumb and bland, image-obsessed cunt
electric international law enforcement agency mad-dog skullcap
  11/06/17
No wonder she loves this place, what a loser
Underhanded Maroon Main People Juggernaut
  11/06/17
lol
marvelous institution
  11/06/17
she also has no regard for roo doods while rolling in her lu...
Bat shit crazy plum gas station stain
  11/06/17
she's no honey ryder
infuriating hot abode
  11/06/17
...
slap-happy boiling water business firm
  11/06/17
i dont mind her. she's getting increasingly red-pilled which...
galvanic judgmental area double fault
  11/06/17
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clear ticket booth stock car
  11/06/17
Nutella is a far more interesting poster.
Underhanded Maroon Main People Juggernaut
  11/06/17
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chestnut apoplectic rehab
  11/06/17
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Confused Mother Jewess
  11/06/17
(nutella)
Bull Headed Cracking Den
  11/07/17
Cr, I don't know much about nutella, but she seems really co...
magenta mexican private investor
  11/27/17
she has been racially red pilled looong ago. she still votes...
gay out-of-control elastic band
  11/06/17
She’s sexy
chocolate exhilarant kitchen pozpig
  11/06/17
(29)
slap-happy boiling water business firm
  11/06/17
she's boring
Federal Medicated Legend Center
  11/06/17
She’s 180
clear ticket booth stock car
  11/06/17
She seems like a 180 wife
soul-stirring smoky gay wizard stead
  11/06/17
if she were a manpoaster what would she be considered? not a...
stimulating rusted locale organic girlfriend
  11/06/17
Never got the way some posters adore this femposter but othe...
charismatic red new version
  11/06/17
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Outnumbered Dopamine Chapel
  11/06/17
...
multi-colored address
  11/06/17
...
laughsome twisted generalized bond selfie
  11/06/17
Leave my friend twentynine ALONE!!
mildly autistic dilemma
  11/06/17
...
doobsian thriller hall background story
  11/06/17
ty JCM
Aphrodisiac really tough guy orchestra pit
  11/07/17
I love her
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  11/06/17
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bateful amethyst boltzmann mediation
  12/25/17
She is boring. More boring and naturally humorless than rowa...
Outnumbered Dopamine Chapel
  11/06/17
Nah she's ok
soul-stirring smoky gay wizard stead
  11/06/17
its a sad case, indeed. you should write up one of these for...
Onyx painfully honest property
  11/06/17
180, in the parlance of our times.
Onyx painfully honest property
  11/06/17
Absolutely devastating
chestnut apoplectic rehab
  11/06/17
lololol 180
hilarious doctorate
  11/06/17
there's nothing to critique here. just 180 after 180
gay out-of-control elastic band
  11/06/17
...
Razzle-dazzle bronze parlor
  11/27/17
lulz
shimmering brunch wrinkle
  11/06/17
cot damn
galvanic judgmental area double fault
  11/06/17
Unknown Pumo, The Anthologica Autoadmitica
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  11/06/17
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  11/07/17
Yny now that's a gaping
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  11/06/17
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  11/06/17
*norwood 4 is swept as back as it can be at the ferocity of ...
Federal Medicated Legend Center
  11/06/17
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Vigorous Charcoal Box Office
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  11/27/17
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  12/07/17
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mildly autistic dilemma
  05/12/25
This is truly one of the greatest pieces of writing I’ve eve...
Confused Mother Jewess
  11/06/17
...
odious karate pisswyrm
  11/06/17
jesus
doobsian thriller hall background story
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Crimson native dysfunction
  11/06/17
rofl holy shit i only started paying attention to her bec...
sickened cyan quadroon
  11/06/17
harsh but fair
dashing lime hospital
  11/06/17
Can you do one of these for me
vivacious flushed base
  11/06/17
lol at writing hundreds of words about a poster, jesus
mahogany concupiscible trust fund
  11/06/17
...
Black marketing idea
  11/06/17
jesus
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  11/06/17
yeezus
Brindle Coffee Pot
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Talented mustard temple
  11/07/17
(guy who writes legal opinions for a living)
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...
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  11/07/17
holy shit
idiotic giraffe
  11/07/17
180
contagious cobalt range
  11/07/17
18000000000
Appetizing field
  11/27/17
jfc, that woman has a family!
passionate blood rage house
  11/27/17
...
pink police squad patrolman
  12/07/17
...
Bat shit crazy plum gas station stain
  01/26/18
is rowan still around?
Dull market goyim
  02/11/18
great. pensive is now a quotemo.
Dull market goyim
  02/11/18
that was not pensive, i can assure you of that.
Onyx painfully honest property
  03/31/18
this was brutal how did i miss this
Opaque diverse national brethren
  03/31/18
...
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  05/26/18
absolutely savage. Can you please do Get Thee to the Trumper...
Razzmatazz green stage
  05/26/18
...
Bistre bawdyhouse
  05/26/18
...
Opaque diverse national brethren
  05/26/18
can't think of any other XO longread gaping that clearly top...
Salmon Bespoke Half-breed
  02/07/19
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Bistre bawdyhouse
  06/16/19
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  01/17/20
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stimulating rusted locale organic girlfriend
  01/17/20
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odious karate pisswyrm
  01/17/20
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  04/10/22
LOLLLL at that "Gorean" shit, wtf is wrong with wo...
Salmon Bespoke Half-breed
  04/21/22
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Fantasy-prone 180 volcanic crater
  05/12/25
You guys hate everyone. Give it a rest. 29 is a classic femp...
Tripping trip partner
  11/06/17
this means a lot coming from you
Sooty parlour
  11/06/17
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stimulating rusted locale organic girlfriend
  11/06/17
...
Bistre bawdyhouse
  11/06/17
...
Federal Medicated Legend Center
  11/06/17
*bellydances out of thread*
Confused Mother Jewess
  11/06/17
kiss of death right here
Federal Medicated Legend Center
  11/06/17
I stand with Julia.
Vigorous Charcoal Box Office
  11/06/17
ty Julia
Aphrodisiac really tough guy orchestra pit
  11/07/17
ty for “make believe princess throne”
bat-shit-crazy orchid library
  11/06/17
I like 29 she's fun to discuss girl shit with - boys, sex...
vivacious flushed base
  11/06/17
I think they're harder on her in general just b/c she's a fe...
Fiercely-loyal Tattoo
  11/06/17
Nobody would know who she is if she were male. Same with all...
Curious zombie-like fat ankles
  11/06/17
I don't doubt it.
Fiercely-loyal Tattoo
  11/06/17
I would still be a famous poster even if I were male I am...
vivacious flushed base
  11/06/17
Good point - you're also black. As a white male, though, you...
Curious zombie-like fat ankles
  11/06/17
No t if I posted the same crazy shit about my life
vivacious flushed base
  11/06/17
You're speaking from a place of unearned privilege right now...
Curious zombie-like fat ankles
  11/06/17
...
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  11/06/17
LJL at this shrew fantasy. No one is hard on you or rina. Pe...
deranged costumed philosopher-king
  11/06/17
She seems innocuous to me most of the time but I don't follo...
Fiercely-loyal Tattoo
  11/06/17
well yeah obviously there are tons of bland male posters ...
vivacious flushed base
  11/06/17
Sounds like we are in agreement. Need to take the bitter wit...
Curious zombie-like fat ankles
  11/06/17
Oh well, you can't expect everyone to love you all the time
Aphrodisiac really tough guy orchestra pit
  11/07/17
Mods
Bull Headed Cracking Den
  11/07/17
ty Bluesmoke, likewise I enjoy our chats
Aphrodisiac really tough guy orchestra pit
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cordovan sweet tailpipe
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burgundy spot party of the first part
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hilarious doctorate
  12/13/22
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rough-skinned set
  08/10/25
I also really liked J. and that northwestern GOI femposter.
Jade cruel-hearted travel guidebook
  08/10/25


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Date: November 6th, 2017 8:19 AM
Author: Salmon Bespoke Half-breed

Annoying as Julia is, she at least is a complete "character" and a source of lols / memes - stripper, Thunderbird, butchered English, etc

Same with blue smoke, jcm, GTTTR, et al. whether you like them or not they do have personalities

29 just sits on her make believe princess throne, taking up space and mugging for attention which the more pathetic "males" here unfortunately provide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34615420)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 8:25 AM
Author: chestnut apoplectic rehab

She's also a mod and has been deleting threads that are "mean" to RSF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34615436)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 8:39 AM
Author: Salmon Bespoke Half-breed

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34615477)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:14 AM
Author: Titillating sanctuary laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34615988)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:19 AM
Author: razzle aquamarine theater stage

I heard she’s hot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34615620)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:29 AM
Author: Titillating sanctuary laser beams

Have you also heard watchmen is a baller 28 y/o multimillionaire who drives a Rolls Royce?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34615680)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:17 AM
Author: kink-friendly pontificating rigpig

He made millions while posting full time on xo for years. Nobody knows for sure how he did it, but there's speculation that he's flaming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616001)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:17 AM
Author: shimmering brunch wrinkle

she's not hot. i'm not gonna repost the pic but what she posted the other night was very disappointing. legit looks like a frumpy middle aged mom

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616004)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:19 AM
Author: Titillating sanctuary laser beams

cr this is one of the sillier flames on xo. she’s a standard-issue bony frumpy law shrew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616026)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: passionate blood rage house

hhnnggghhh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616199)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:44 AM
Author: Turquoise Deep Psychic Casino

titcrhhnnggghhh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616250)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: razzle aquamarine theater stage

i'd still do her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617779)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: chocolate exhilarant kitchen pozpig

No. That was just an unflattering picture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617790)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:39 PM
Author: Bistre bawdyhouse

lol people don't willfully post unflattering pics on xo. yeah there was a fiter but you could clearly see what she looked like and it was the face of a 5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619438)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 8:48 AM
Author: bateful amethyst boltzmann mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35242471)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone 180 volcanic crater

More like a 3 iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#48924359)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: rough-skinned set

To whiteknight JUST A LITTLE here, at least she wasn’t obese. From the pics it looked like she spent a decent amt of time in the gym or w/e. Face was very mid though, yes. Also 0 tits or ass iirc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#49172155)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:37 AM
Author: Histrionic plaza depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616194)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:38 AM
Author: electric international law enforcement agency mad-dog skullcap

Only malepoasters that like her are people like MPA that are equally dorky and autistic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616208)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:46 AM
Author: Underhanded Maroon Main People Juggernaut

Never cared for 29. Always thought she was boring and racist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616268)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:49 AM
Author: gay out-of-control elastic band

i dont even mind that she's racist. i just wish she'd admit to it. when twist was looking for shrewmo's identity, he found a couple 29 pumos trolling for aryans and whatnot. wish i had the link but the json was damning. but she's so invested in her milchtoast character on xo that she won't come out and say it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616291)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:51 AM
Author: electric international law enforcement agency mad-dog skullcap

she's such a dumb and bland, image-obsessed cunt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616304)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 11:15 AM
Author: Underhanded Maroon Main People Juggernaut

No wonder she loves this place, what a loser

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616461)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 11:52 AM
Author: marvelous institution

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616671)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 11:02 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy plum gas station stain

she also has no regard for roo doods while rolling in her luxo land barge. bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616394)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 11:53 AM
Author: infuriating hot abode

she's no honey ryder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34616680)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:20 PM
Author: slap-happy boiling water business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617570)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:22 PM
Author: galvanic judgmental area double fault

i dont mind her. she's getting increasingly red-pilled which is always fun to watch

also if dull is the measure, nobody beats nutella

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617576)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:23 PM
Author: clear ticket booth stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617594)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:44 PM
Author: Underhanded Maroon Main People Juggernaut

Nutella is a far more interesting poster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617729)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:48 PM
Author: chestnut apoplectic rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617774)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 6:15 PM
Author: Confused Mother Jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619689)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 9:55 AM
Author: Bull Headed Cracking Den

(nutella)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34624624)



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Date: November 27th, 2017 5:09 AM
Author: magenta mexican private investor

Cr, I don't know much about nutella, but she seems really cool and grounded, and I hear her rainmaker hubby is like super hung and an attentive lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34779675)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:48 PM
Author: gay out-of-control elastic band

she has been racially red pilled looong ago. she still votes straight democrat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617770)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:24 PM
Author: chocolate exhilarant kitchen pozpig

She’s sexy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617596)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:25 PM
Author: slap-happy boiling water business firm

(29)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617604)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:24 PM
Author: Federal Medicated Legend Center

she's boring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617600)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:42 PM
Author: clear ticket booth stock car

She’s 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617714)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: soul-stirring smoky gay wizard stead

She seems like a 180 wife

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617785)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:51 PM
Author: stimulating rusted locale organic girlfriend

if she were a manpoaster what would she be considered? not at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617801)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:56 PM
Author: charismatic red new version

Never got the way some posters adore this femposter but others hate her. She's just a standard law shrew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617838)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 3:12 PM
Author: Outnumbered Dopamine Chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617999)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: multi-colored address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618224)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 6:34 PM
Author: laughsome twisted generalized bond selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619810)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: mildly autistic dilemma

Leave my friend twentynine ALONE!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617853)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: doobsian thriller hall background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619214)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 1:41 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac really tough guy orchestra pit

ty JCM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34622811)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 2:58 PM
Author: Spruce cerebral son of senegal indirect expression

I love her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617858)



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Date: December 25th, 2017 5:40 AM
Author: bateful amethyst boltzmann mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35002332)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 3:12 PM
Author: Outnumbered Dopamine Chapel

She is boring. More boring and naturally humorless than rowan. Think about that for a moment. There are some other significant knocks against her:

She got busted using a bunch of alts. That's not really bad in and of itself, but the alts were doing the same kind of bullshit that she spent years complaining about: aggressively harassing and trolling disliked posters, weird racist shit (although nothing too crazy like N-threading and such), and trolling for herself. I think the more annoying component of that was her unbelievably stupid and obvious alt names. One notable entry was "Aussies are alpha." This was before she admitted to her Australian citizenship but nonetheless, so fucking dumb.

And on that note, she spent years making painstaking efforts to 'British up' her writing on XO and then would tee hee about it when asked. She would refer to shit like the 'carpark' and then when posters would naturally ask, her childish response was like "Oh, erm, haven't the faintest bloody idea of what you mean, that's just what we all said whilst at uni."

She loves, loves, loves to dump on TTTs and shitlawyers. She came her from fucking jdunderground, where she listlessly posted for quite a while. Her old posts there were linked many times. And yes, she posted there as 29, in like 2008. She's even older than she says.

She has posted here for nearly a decade and still is barely proficient with XO memes and culture. Never funny, doesn't 'get' great threads or board jokes, and more or less bumbles around this place like it's her third week posting. She'll sometimes casually deploy a few basic memes or a little bit of lingo with this comically triumphant attitude despite sounding borderline ESL.

It has been said many times lately, but her innate need to hug, lick, rub, and suck RSF's smelly hirsute balls at every opportunity is baffling. Her explanation: "we share a love of high-end air travel and are both quite the adventurers!" Keep in mind, this is a middle-aged mother of three practicing mega shrew tax law at a backwater Aussie firm but she sees herself as some kind of 'adventurous equal' to a multi-millionaire boozeaholic trust fund brat who doesn't work for a living and routinely flies to fucking Africa to celebrate NYE.

She has always lazily indulged in bashing 'XO males' as being largely a teeming mass of sexless basement loser virgins when it served her interests. This is coming from a woman who is a math major (hey guys, remember all those hot and cheerful female math majors you knew in undergrad?), tax attorney, claims to enjoy whatever level of 'biglaw' she wagecucks her life away for, and she's a sci-fi fan who once posted about attending 'cons' before she knew better and ended up married to a guy working in one of the single dorkiest professions in existence. And she has admitted to being really into this shit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gorean_subculture and online amateur 'literotica,' which is objectively horrible and obscenely nerdy. But she has no problem bashing male dweebs if it suits her on the internet. It's a minor character flaw but it says a lot. It's also funny in the context of all her chad and height trolling. Seems like an obvious case of perennial wallflower who was too scared to approach CHAD when she was young taking it out on all the mean boys 20 years after the fact.

All told, she's popular on here right now because there are so few female posters and there's a real dearth of personality among the few we have. She has also taken to posting pictures when she's drunk and relentlessly attention-whoring - do either of those things a few times as a female poster and you'll be XO-famous overnight no matter how long you've been here. Just let her have her kicks now. It has taken years and years of unsuccessfully posting from the margins for her to accumulate her moment, which amounts to a few bored, unemployed aspie dudes (a demographic she has mercilessly pilloried for years) begging her for 'ass pics' that don't exist. This is her great reward and the pinnacle of her impact on the board.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34617994)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 3:33 PM
Author: soul-stirring smoky gay wizard stead

Nah she's ok

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618197)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Onyx painfully honest property

its a sad case, indeed. you should write up one of these for every known poster, that was an enjoyable read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618227)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: Onyx painfully honest property

180, in the parlance of our times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618322)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: chestnut apoplectic rehab

Absolutely devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618342)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 4:22 PM
Author: hilarious doctorate

lololol 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618670)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 4:28 PM
Author: gay out-of-control elastic band

there's nothing to critique here. just 180 after 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618735)



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Date: November 27th, 2017 4:58 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle bronze parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34779671)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 4:46 PM
Author: shimmering brunch wrinkle

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618901)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 4:49 PM
Author: galvanic judgmental area double fault

cot damn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618916)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 4:55 PM
Author: Curious zombie-like fat ankles

Unknown Pumo, The Anthologica Autoadmitica

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618993)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 1:50 AM
Author: aggressive whorehouse black woman

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34622858)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:21 PM
Author: Bistre bawdyhouse

Yny now that's a gaping

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619272)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:30 PM
Author: deranged costumed philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619346)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:37 PM
Author: Federal Medicated Legend Center

*norwood 4 is swept as back as it can be at the ferocity of this post*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619422)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 6:21 PM
Author: Vigorous Charcoal Box Office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619714)



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Date: November 27th, 2017 5:37 AM
Author: magenta mexican private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34779694)



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Date: December 7th, 2017 5:53 AM
Author: Ebony fragrant stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34859216)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: mildly autistic dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#48924409)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:47 PM
Author: Confused Mother Jewess

This is truly one of the greatest pieces of writing I’ve ever read on here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619524)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:49 PM
Author: odious karate pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619534)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:50 PM
Author: doobsian thriller hall background story

jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619541)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 6:17 PM
Author: Crimson native dysfunction



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619695)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 7:31 PM
Author: sickened cyan quadroon

rofl holy shit

i only started paying attention to her because of retarded trump threading which she got deservedly pwned on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620243)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:01 PM
Author: dashing lime hospital

harsh but fair

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620834)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:13 PM
Author: vivacious flushed base

Can you do one of these for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620896)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:30 PM
Author: mahogany concupiscible trust fund

lol at writing hundreds of words about a poster, jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620997)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: Black marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34621223)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 10:11 PM
Author: stimulating rusted locale organic girlfriend

jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34621482)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 11:41 PM
Author: Brindle Coffee Pot

yeezus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34622092)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 1:53 AM
Author: Talented mustard temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34622875)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 1:53 AM
Author: brilliant motley goal in life pit

(guy who writes legal opinions for a living)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34622876)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 1:57 AM
Author: comical station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34622900)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 9:30 AM
Author: Black marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34624355)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 9:35 AM
Author: idiotic giraffe

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34624398)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 1:10 PM
Author: contagious cobalt range

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34625942)



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Date: November 27th, 2017 1:54 AM
Author: Appetizing field

18000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34779370)



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Date: November 27th, 2017 5:27 AM
Author: passionate blood rage house

jfc, that woman has a family!



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34779685)



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Date: December 7th, 2017 5:47 AM
Author: pink police squad patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34859207)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 8:54 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy plum gas station stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35242481)



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Date: February 11th, 2018 11:38 PM
Author: Dull market goyim

is rowan still around?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35381401)



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Date: February 11th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: Dull market goyim

great. pensive is now a quotemo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35381418)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 7:01 PM
Author: Onyx painfully honest property

that was not pensive, i can assure you of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35733050)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Opaque diverse national brethren

this was brutal how did i miss this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35733023)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: disrespectful navy meetinghouse personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#36132112)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Razzmatazz green stage

absolutely savage. Can you please do Get Thee to the Trumpery next, thank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#36132179)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Bistre bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#36132193)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Opaque diverse national brethren



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#36132375)



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Date: February 7th, 2019 11:43 PM
Author: Salmon Bespoke Half-breed

can't think of any other XO longread gaping that clearly tops this one, and i've seen most of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#37746165)



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Date: June 16th, 2019 12:38 PM
Author: Bistre bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#38396411)



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Date: January 17th, 2020 7:58 PM
Author: cordovan sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#39447835)



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Date: January 17th, 2020 8:36 PM
Author: stimulating rusted locale organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#39447945)



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Date: January 17th, 2020 8:39 PM
Author: odious karate pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#39447961)



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Date: April 10th, 2022 10:56 AM
Author: low-t hairy legs mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#44312596)



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Date: April 21st, 2022 12:03 AM
Author: Salmon Bespoke Half-breed

LOLLLL at that "Gorean" shit, wtf is wrong with women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#44376683)



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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone 180 volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#48924345)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 4:52 PM
Author: Tripping trip partner

You guys hate everyone. Give it a rest. 29 is a classic femposter and a solid contributor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34618955)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 4:58 PM
Author: Sooty parlour

this means a lot coming from you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619036)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:17 PM
Author: stimulating rusted locale organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619237)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:21 PM
Author: Bistre bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619265)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:37 PM
Author: Federal Medicated Legend Center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619424)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:31 PM
Author: Confused Mother Jewess

*bellydances out of thread*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619347)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 5:38 PM
Author: Federal Medicated Legend Center

kiss of death right here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619426)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 6:21 PM
Author: Vigorous Charcoal Box Office

I stand with Julia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34619717)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 1:39 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac really tough guy orchestra pit

ty Julia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34622801)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 7:28 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy orchid library

ty for “make believe princess throne”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620216)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:00 PM
Author: vivacious flushed base

I like 29

she's fun to discuss girl shit with - boys, sex, babies, clothes, makeup, whatever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620828)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Tattoo

I think they're harder on her in general just b/c she's a fempoaster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620902)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:16 PM
Author: Curious zombie-like fat ankles

Nobody would know who she is if she were male. Same with all three of you, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620914)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:18 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Tattoo

I don't doubt it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620921)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:24 PM
Author: vivacious flushed base

I would still be a famous poster even if I were male

I am interesting as fuck

HTH!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620957)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:29 PM
Author: Curious zombie-like fat ankles

Good point - you're also black. As a white male, though, you'd be unknown.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620993)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:37 PM
Author: vivacious flushed base

No t if I posted the same crazy shit about my life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34621061)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:37 PM
Author: Curious zombie-like fat ankles

You're speaking from a place of unearned privilege right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34621066)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:45 PM
Author: Coiffed ultramarine old irish cottage filthpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34621157)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:18 PM
Author: deranged costumed philosopher-king

LJL at this shrew fantasy. No one is hard on you or rina. People are hard on 29 because she's an aggressively stupid sockpuppeting attention whore. Male posters who pull the same shit (ie RSF) get criticized heavily too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620920)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:25 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Tattoo

She seems innocuous to me most of the time but I don't follow board drama much. The election bumps are lol though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620965)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:25 PM
Author: vivacious flushed base

well yeah obviously

there are tons of bland male posters I could think of who don't get any flack

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34620964)



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Date: November 6th, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: Curious zombie-like fat ankles

Sounds like we are in agreement. Need to take the bitter with the sweet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34621004)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 1:40 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac really tough guy orchestra pit

Oh well, you can't expect everyone to love you all the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34622808)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 10:00 AM
Author: Bull Headed Cracking Den

Mods

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34624665)



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Date: November 7th, 2017 1:40 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac really tough guy orchestra pit

ty Bluesmoke, likewise I enjoy our chats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34622805)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 6:47 AM
Author: pink police squad patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#34729306)



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Date: January 26th, 2018 8:47 AM
Author: bateful amethyst boltzmann mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35242469)



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Date: February 11th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: Sadistic Cruise Ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35381386)



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Date: March 31st, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: hairraiser olive azn electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#35733010)



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Date: May 26th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: bisexual ruddy nowag indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#36132097)



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Date: June 16th, 2019 11:07 AM
Author: Thirsty sienna principal's office mental disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#38396198)



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Date: August 24th, 2019 12:56 AM
Author: heady athletic conference site



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#38734207)



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Date: January 17th, 2020 7:49 PM
Author: cordovan sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#39447803)



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Date: May 13th, 2020 3:27 AM
Author: burgundy spot party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#40199569)



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Date: October 29th, 2020 10:05 AM
Author: arousing snowy school cafeteria legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#41211990)



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Date: April 10th, 2022 10:51 AM
Author: arousing snowy school cafeteria legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#44312579)



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Date: December 13th, 2022 9:07 AM
Author: hilarious doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#45625629)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: rough-skinned set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#49172150)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 3:02 PM
Author: Jade cruel-hearted travel guidebook

I also really liked J. and that northwestern GOI femposter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787019&forum_id=2Vannesa#49172158)