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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Geriatric adventurous house boistinker
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
fiercely-loyal cuckold
  12/16/25
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Geriatric adventurous house boistinker
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
wonderful principal's office knife
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
fiercely-loyal cuckold
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
wonderful principal's office knife
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
fiercely-loyal cuckold
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
wonderful principal's office knife
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Geriatric adventurous house boistinker
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
fiercely-loyal cuckold
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
wonderful principal's office knife
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
fiercely-loyal cuckold
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
wonderful principal's office knife
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Geriatric adventurous house boistinker
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fiercely-loyal cuckold
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
submissive razzle masturbator ape
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
fiercely-loyal cuckold
  12/16/25
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submissive razzle masturbator ape
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
swashbuckling stage boiling water
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
fiercely-loyal cuckold
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Khaki corner
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
fiercely-loyal cuckold
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Multi-colored Amber Church Building Multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
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fiercely-loyal cuckold
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Geriatric adventurous house boistinker
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
cerise water buffalo
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Amethyst depressive
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fiercely-loyal cuckold
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cerise water buffalo
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Geriatric adventurous house boistinker
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Geriatric adventurous house boistinker
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
wonderful principal's office knife
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
alcoholic appetizing hospital yarmulke
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Geriatric adventurous house boistinker



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Geriatric adventurous house boistinker

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: wonderful principal's office knife

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: wonderful principal's office knife

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: wonderful principal's office knife

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Geriatric adventurous house boistinker

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: wonderful principal's office knife

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515958)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: wonderful principal's office knife

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Geriatric adventurous house boistinker



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: submissive razzle masturbator ape

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: submissive razzle masturbator ape



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: swashbuckling stage boiling water

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Khaki corner

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Multi-colored Amber Church Building Multi-billionaire

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Geriatric adventurous house boistinker



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: cerise water buffalo

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Amethyst depressive

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal cuckold



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: cerise water buffalo



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Geriatric adventurous house boistinker



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Geriatric adventurous house boistinker



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: wonderful principal's office knife

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: alcoholic appetizing hospital yarmulke

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515738)