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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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pea-brained new version
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets
  12/16/25
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pea-brained new version
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
flatulent cerise kitchen
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
flatulent cerise kitchen
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
flatulent cerise kitchen
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
pea-brained new version
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
flatulent cerise kitchen
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
flatulent cerise kitchen
  12/17/25
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pea-brained new version
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walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
transparent affirmative action son of senegal
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets
  12/16/25
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transparent affirmative action son of senegal
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
dead low-t chad
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
bistre blood rage
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Odious yapping voyeur generalized bond
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pea-brained new version
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
indigo ceo twinkling uncleanness
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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indigo ceo twinkling uncleanness
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pea-brained new version
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pea-brained new version
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
flatulent cerise kitchen
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Comical deer antler mad-dog skullcap
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: pea-brained new version



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: pea-brained new version

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: flatulent cerise kitchen

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: flatulent cerise kitchen

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515523)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: flatulent cerise kitchen

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: pea-brained new version

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: flatulent cerise kitchen

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: flatulent cerise kitchen

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: pea-brained new version



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: transparent affirmative action son of senegal

how do they get home?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515699)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515708)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: transparent affirmative action son of senegal



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: dead low-t chad

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: bistre blood rage

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Odious yapping voyeur generalized bond

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: pea-brained new version



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: indigo ceo twinkling uncleanness

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Jade supple hall roast beef

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: walnut razzmatazz coldplay fan nibblets



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: indigo ceo twinkling uncleanness



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: pea-brained new version



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: pea-brained new version



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: flatulent cerise kitchen

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Comical deer antler mad-dog skullcap

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515738)