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just spent 30 mins writing out a review of Unabomber Manifesto, got login glitch
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Date: May 7th, 2026 12:02 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse didn't copy to clipboard for like the first time ever in my poasting life
lol. taking questions about the manifesto i guess. what a bummer. i feel like an idiot |
Date: May 7th, 2026 12:03 PM Author: Concupiscible School Cafeteria if you press the back button when that happens you can usually return to the post creation page with your text still in the box (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49872121) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 12:05 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse yeah i know. done it many times before. but it didn't work this time for some reason - just got the "confirm post resubmission" prompt and the page wouldn't load
fucked up. the computers are working against me. really makes you think |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 6:37 PM Author: Nudist Coral Milk Stock Car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873054) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 12:32 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse tweeted a shorter version below
gonna go engage in some surrogate activities. let me know your Thoughts on this topic if you have any you'd like to share
https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/2052425994397774283
Re-read Kaczynski's Unabomber Manifesto. It holds up really well. Not just the commentary on technology, but also the stuff about leftism (probably the best part of the essay - the greatest-ever takedown of shitlibbery imo), the power process, surrogate activities. Still a must-read for any 21st century intellectual
His only real miss imo was envisioning an anti-technology revolution to be a mass movement. Mass movements have always been about the immediate self-interests of its participants. But the destruction of technological society would involve billions of deaths and immense human suffering. It could never be a mass movement - why would the masses ever support this?
Any destruction of technological society would have to be carried out by a small, genuinely fanatical minority elite. The question remains: why would such a minority elite choose to destroy the world, rather than rule it for their own benefit? But it's at least an answerable question: (because they would be genuine fanatics). There have been historical instances of small groups of genuine fanatics acting contrary to their self-interest due to ideological belief. But this has (ofc) never occurred at a mass scale
"Only a God can save us" remains true. Any humans who could accomplish the above - and would be willing to do so - would be gods compared to the rest of us today |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 6:59 PM Author: Cerebral corn cake tank 180, been looking forward to your thoughts on this since my Uncle Ted thread.
I think you MIGHT be wrong about whether an anti-technology revolution could get mass buy-in. I consume a lot of leftist media (while Uncle Ted uses "leftist" to mean "liberal," the media I consume is very anti-shitlib, anti-identity-politics, solely focused on returning power to the people) with a handful of populist right-wing pundits sprinkled in. And everyone I watch is categorically opposed to the AI explosion, massive increase in data centers, surveillance state, etc. PLUS they report on how negative people's views of these things are across the political spectrum. No one wants a data center anywhere near them, and that's gonna bring more and more people to the anti-technology side as more and more get built around the world. Everyone hates Palantir, and I'm guessing that awareness and opposition to the surveillance state has steadily increased since the Patriot Act and all that, BUT correct me if I'm wrong and people are actually acclimating to it. Since I know people are sometimes frogs in boiling water when it comes to society's progression toward dystopia.
Of course there's a gap between "I don't want mass unemployment and a world covered in data centers collecting my every movement" and "the Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster." But it might be closer than you think. Even normies are saying shit like "let's start over from before the internet" as I covered ITT: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5863784&forum_id=2 |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:41 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse not wanting some particular application of technology (AI in this case) and not wanting all technology period are two very different things
normies oppose AI in particular because they (correctly) understand it to be directly detrimental to their self-interest. but they would never be willing to reject *all* technology, because they (correctly) understand themselves to greatly benefit from it
kaczynski addresses this point in the essay, and explains that you have to actually destroy all technology - you can't just try to snipe individual applications of it. even if you manage to delay or hamstring some application of technology, you'll never be able to stop it entirely; it will always inevitably come into being |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:50 PM Author: Cerebral corn cake tank Yeah absolutely. The center of mainstream discussion right now is about regulating or banning the specific things everyone can see are ruining the world. It's a big step from that to destroying the technological infrastructure that currently holds almost every aspect of society together. I'm just saying I'm seeing a slow crawl toward the latter. Five years ago I can't imagine anyone saying "let's destroy the internet" and getting a positive reception lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873284) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 8:26 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse it's true that gen-z understands technology at a deeper level than older generations, because they were raised from birth at a much deeper level of immersion in it
i'm a millennial, but i think many zoomers are carrying a feeling of existential dread that older gens don't have. like they've been thrust into a false reality that's totally disconnected from an authentic reality. even millennials lived the first half of our lives (so far) pretty solidly tethered to the non-digital world. zoomers haven't. they've always been adrift and isolated |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 1:09 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49872348) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 1:10 PM Author: Citrine low-t ticket booth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49872350) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 6:37 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873052) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:05 PM Author: Harsh judgmental love of her life azn can you do "My Twisted World" next? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873142) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:16 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse how long is it
i actually did read part of it back in the day |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:22 PM Author: Ruby dopamine Its about 140 pages and actually a pretty entertaining read. Worth reading imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873190) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:33 PM Author: Harsh judgmental love of her life azn The lottery ticket stuff is genuinely funnier than any "comedy" writing produced since that manifesto was released (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873219) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 9:35 PM Author: Ruby dopamine Lol ya. Multiple driving trips from Santa Barbara to AZ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873777) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:35 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse alright this one is up next. ty for recommendation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873223) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:35 PM Author: violet lodge queen of the night This is Elliot Rodger's manifesto? holy shit I didn't know this even exists. Probably an insane read. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873224) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:37 PM Author: Harsh judgmental love of her life azn There's like a 4 page section about the first time he heard his sister getting fucked through her bedroom door (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873228) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:42 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse some of the greatest prose ever written by a human hand imho tbqh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873248) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:38 PM Author: violet lodge queen of the night I first read Ted's book like a decade ago and then listened to it (via Skeptical Waves' YT channel) about 4 years ago. I think about the Power Process stuff all the time. Incredibly accurate. I think most mental illnesses stem from the fact that most people are so far removed from it that it's insane.
It also explains why there is so much "anxiety" and depression in people who are decently well-off. Whereas people who actually have to work for a living (doing actual work, not make-work) have difficulties, but not the same mental manias.
His stuff on leftism is also incredible. |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:44 PM Author: Chocolate church building depression has a strong inverse correlation with income (within a given country at least) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873255) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 7:55 PM Author: violet lodge queen of the night I wonder what the income breakout of people on Lexapro looks like. Because I think there is likely a high corellation between people in make-work jobs that pay decent enough and anti-anxiety meds.
Just at a gut level, who is more likely to be on this shit:
Person A - prole goy welder who makes $75k a year and works on job sites
Person B - college grad female who works in Customer Success at a SaaS Company selling financial regulation compliance solutions |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 8:02 PM Author: Chocolate church building I think if you controlled for religion there would be much less of a separation than you think. Kaczynski constructs elaborate philosophical arguments which are basically just a smokescreen trying to ascribe some fundamental human experience from an atheist's viewpoint (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873337) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 8:05 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse no one is religious in 2026. god died before any of us were born
people always tout religiosity as The Answer to the nihilism of modernity, but....no one is actually religious. no one believes in god. no one believes in the afterlife
it's just not real. i'm not making a normative judgment. it's just a fact that religion no longer exists. "religiosity" is merely a proxy for having a localized community/family/sense of belonging/purpose |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 8:06 PM Author: Chocolate church building You are completely missing my point
There is no meaning to an atheists life (I'm an atheist). All this nonsense "philosophy" is really just dancing around the simple fact that religion gave people purpose, meaning, and structure. And within the span of a couple generations we mostly vaporized it. That is at the root of society's current ills and there's no easy way to solve it. But by all means continue jerking yourself off without admitting the root cause, constructing "feels right to me" towers of philosophical babel trying to replace God |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 8:13 PM Author: cruel-hearted haunted graveyard meetinghouse i don't agree at all that religion is what gave pre-modern humans purpose, meaning, structure, etc
i don't agree with kaczyski that industrial, mass society was where "we" went wrong, either. the problems we have today can be traced back much further in time than that. this destination was always inevitable once we set down the path that we've been on. the death of supernatural religion was always inevitable, too |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 8:11 PM Author: violet lodge queen of the night LJL. I am religious. Used to be an atheist and am now very much a believer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49873363) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 8:13 PM Author: violet lodge queen of the night I am not trying to be obtuse (it is just happening naturally), but can you explain a bit more?
I think you are saying that basically people feel empty and hollow because they no longer have to do physical labor to survive and so they fill the void through any number of surrogate activities. And that religious people avoid this to some extent because of their beliefs. aka they heard The Good News (unironically saying this, btw.) |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 8:20 PM Author: Chocolate church building Arguing that "modern humans are anxious because their lives are pointless and they engage in surrogate activities to compensate and blah blah" is a distinctly modern way to look at things. All of his writing hinges on an implied belief that everyone was happier in the before-times. Personally I think pre-modern lives were probably pretty fucking stressful when you had to be perpetually concerned your dotter was going to get eaten by a lion or the pack of bros next door were going to bash your skull in and rape your wife or whatever. Maybe I'm wrong. But it's an entirely plausible thing to believe, certainly no less so than the assumptions he makes to paint life back then as something more inherently idyllic.
To the extent humans in modern society are more anxious/depressed than e.g. we were a 100/200/300 years ago, It's the Lack of Religion, Stupid. Within the context of modern human society it is perfectly reasonable to think that when we suddenly rip out the foundation of human belief systems for the last several thousand years people feel lost and aimless. Working the land vs being an accountant or whatever is going to change jack shit if at the end of the day you're a stone cold atheist. Meaningless is meaningless. |
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Date: May 7th, 2026 9:15 PM Author: violet lodge queen of the night "Personally I think pre-modern lives were probably pretty fucking stressful when you had to be perpetually concerned your dotter was going to get eaten by a lion or the pack of bros next door were going to bash your skull in and rape your wife or whatever."
Stressful, but fully connected to survival. As opposed to checking commas or structuring LBOs or whatever which is about 1,000 miles away from raw survival. Niggas way back when didn't have time to have existential angst because they were forced to live more in the here-and-now. A lot of Ted K's stuff feels intuitively true to me.
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Date: May 9th, 2026 1:20 PM Author: poaster staring at message board frozen in time Btw: Kaczynski apparently published another book in 2015 that goes into more detail on his Thoughts about how one might bring about Total Technology Death in practice. I was not aware of this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Tech_Revolution
Will be reading this next |
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Date: May 9th, 2026 1:24 PM Author: POPE LEO IS WEAK ON CRIME Technology and its discontents, indeed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5864630&forum_id=2Vannesa#49876788) |