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Call it: did Kim Kardashian pass the California bar exam?

Results get posted today at 5:00 pm PST, public pass list ge...
flirting station
  11/07/25
Whoever took it for her did.
blue mood
  11/07/25
she’s too well-known and recognizable to pull any shen...
flirting station
  11/07/25
We call him "Drumpf" here. "President Cheeto&...
blue mood
  11/07/25
Based on her model baby bar answer a few years ago, yeah she...
opaque pungent spot therapy
  11/07/25
apparently she failed that three times
flirting station
  11/07/25
luis failed the actual bar 3 times lmao
coiffed faggotry
  11/08/25
i'm rooting for her.
Demanding Spectacular Gas Station Generalized Bond
  11/07/25
I think so. She's basically been studying just for the bar e...
Pontificating mind-boggling pozpig
  11/07/25
she failed the baby bar three times though, and CA is a toug...
flirting station
  11/07/25
No. And if we don’t have a social media post from h...
olive high-end preventive strike
  11/07/25
She should be in prison for being a whore
Mildly Autistic Trump Supporter
  11/07/25
that’s not illegal in California
flirting station
  11/07/25
...
Big-titted Den
  11/07/25
encouraged, tbh
french chapel
  11/07/25
...
rebellious plum newt
  11/07/25
it's a federal crime and she has crossed state lines
Fear-inspiring Piazza Stain
  11/08/25
Jesus. The Mann Act.
boyish garnet hominid
  11/08/25
...
lake irradiated toaster
  11/08/25
Anyone with an IQ above 70 can becum a lawyer.
motley locus
  11/07/25
...
sable university
  11/07/25
Results posted 30 mins ago. Still no confirmation on whether...
flirting station
  11/07/25
Results from the July 2025 bar exam will be released through...
Demanding Spectacular Gas Station Generalized Bond
  11/07/25
yes thank you however this is already addressed in the op
flirting station
  11/07/25
my sincere apologies, friend.
Demanding Spectacular Gas Station Generalized Bond
  11/07/25
The answer is obviously no
olive high-end preventive strike
  11/07/25
Still no movement
flirting station
  11/08/25
if she fails again it adds prestige to my brothers who have ...
lake irradiated toaster
  11/08/25
The Cali bar can be tricky. The JDU admin failed it once and...
tripping hyperventilating library
  11/08/25
lol she failed https://x.com/tmz/status/1987273266008850...
flirting station
  11/08/25
https://x.com/yashar/status/1987273064426709247?s=61
Shaky citrine bbw
  11/08/25
She reports that she "was so close to passing."
impertinent cracking sanctuary associate
  11/08/25
i hope she doesnt pass every year so we can make threads and...
alcoholic resort
  11/08/25
BUMP 4 DIESEL!
Slap-happy Up-to-no-good Kitchen People Who Are Hurt
  11/08/25
...
coiffed faggotry
  11/08/25
She’s gonna release another sex tape
Mildly Autistic Trump Supporter
  11/08/25
Haven’t many states changed their bar exams to make th...
Glittery nowag theatre
  11/08/25
she needs to fail. content creation uber alles.
Fear-inspiring Piazza Stain
  11/08/25
Her failing is pretty great because now that all the Kardash...
Pontificating mind-boggling pozpig
  11/08/25
Trump is similar. Didn’t actually invent or create any...
flirting station
  11/08/25
...
Carmine cocky azn garrison
  11/09/25
...
beady-eyed business firm
  11/09/25
What is even the point of trying to pass the bar for her? I...
beady-eyed business firm
  11/09/25
lmao https://imagez.tmz.com/image/ac/4by3/2025/08/28/acb10d...
boyish garnet hominid
  11/09/25
...
lake irradiated toaster
  11/09/25
basically what Angie Varona was doing at The U law school
coiffed faggotry
  11/09/25
...
ethereal \\(> ' v ' <)// tp
  11/14/25
...
Carmine cocky azn garrison
  11/09/25
I also bar prepped in a string bikini
Fear-inspiring Piazza Stain
  11/09/25
...
flirting station
  11/09/25
New Of Counsel uniform just dropped
french chapel
  11/09/25
I really wanted her to pass so that lawyers would be complet...
french chapel
  11/09/25
she confirms she failed, and she is blaming psychics for it ...
spherequeer
  11/14/25
lmao this is why she was “100% confident” she pa...
"""''''"'"''"'''''
  11/14/25
lol, insane how stupid you can be and still be a billionaire...
Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/14/25
cr look at Trump. he and Kim made their billions the same wa...
"""''''"'"''"'''''
  11/14/25
nah son, Trump made big bucks going up against the jew shark...
Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/14/25
he didn’t actually create or invent anything new that ...
"""''''"'"''"'''''
  11/14/25
you have zero idea what you’re talking about
Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/14/25
I love the "Filing for bankruptcy" thing. Trump h...
.,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,...
  11/15/25
it was six times bro
"""''''"'"''"'''''
  11/15/25
he himself never has. his Trump-branded businesses in the vo...
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
  11/15/25
it was SIX TIMES no matter how you try to spin it
"""''''"'"''"'''''
  11/15/25
no it was ZERO TIMES no matter how often you copy paste the ...
spherequeer
  11/15/25
America also voted in Ronald Reagan, a dashingly handsome bl...
,;;,
  11/15/25
UPDATE https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1990926042232447230?s...
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  11/18/25
haha https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G6E9DhPWwAA928Y?format=jpg...
spherequeer
  11/18/25


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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: flirting station

Results get posted today at 5:00 pm PST, public pass list gets posted Sunday. Pass rate was 68.2% last year. She says she’s 100% certain she passed fwiw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409567)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:10 AM
Author: blue mood

Whoever took it for her did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409569)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:12 AM
Author: flirting station

she’s too well-known and recognizable to pull any shenanigans like what Trump did when he took the SAT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409574)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: blue mood

We call him "Drumpf" here. "President Cheeto" also works (both because he's orange and he 'cheats' hah).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409580)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: opaque pungent spot therapy

Based on her model baby bar answer a few years ago, yeah she probably passed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409579)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:14 AM
Author: flirting station

apparently she failed that three times

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409581)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:11 AM
Author: coiffed faggotry

luis failed the actual bar 3 times lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49411871)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:17 AM
Author: Demanding Spectacular Gas Station Generalized Bond

i'm rooting for her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409586)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Pontificating mind-boggling pozpig

I think so. She's basically been studying just for the bar exam for like 5 years now.

She's clearly somewhat intelligent - it's hard to imagine she can figure out how to become a billionaire through social media and reality TV and all of these businesses but can't remember the difference between attempted murder and conspiracy after 5 years of practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409664)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: flirting station

she failed the baby bar three times though, and CA is a tough exam. Even the former dean of Stanford LS failed it on the first try

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409672)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: olive high-end preventive strike

No.

And if we don’t have a social media post from her by 5:05 PST it’s PP confirmed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49409988)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Trump Supporter

She should be in prison for being a whore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49410016)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: flirting station

that’s not illegal in California

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49410179)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:05 PM
Author: Big-titted Den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49410181)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: french chapel

encouraged, tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49410309)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: rebellious plum newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49410310)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:28 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring Piazza Stain

it's a federal crime and she has crossed state lines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49411854)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:09 AM
Author: boyish garnet hominid

Jesus. The Mann Act.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49411870)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: lake irradiated toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412128)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: motley locus

Anyone with an IQ above 70 can becum a lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49410312)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: sable university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49410436)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 8:33 PM
Author: flirting station

Results posted 30 mins ago. Still no confirmation on whether she passed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49411226)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 8:35 PM
Author: Demanding Spectacular Gas Station Generalized Bond

Results from the July 2025 bar exam will be released through the Applicant Portal to applicants on November 7, 2025, at 5:00 p.m. The pass list will be posted on the Examination Pass List webpage on Sunday, November 9, 2025.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49411230)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 8:48 PM
Author: flirting station

yes thank you however this is already addressed in the op

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49411262)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 10:00 PM
Author: Demanding Spectacular Gas Station Generalized Bond

my sincere apologies, friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49411487)



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Date: November 7th, 2025 9:11 PM
Author: olive high-end preventive strike

The answer is obviously no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49411332)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: flirting station

Still no movement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412117)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 10:09 AM
Author: lake irradiated toaster

if she fails again it adds prestige to my brothers who have been certified as "attorneys" by the state of california - so that's gotta be a no from me, dog

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412135)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: tripping hyperventilating library

The Cali bar can be tricky. The JDU admin failed it once and he’s an Engineer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412148)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:40 PM
Author: flirting station

lol she failed

https://x.com/tmz/status/1987273266008850686?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412958)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:44 PM
Author: Shaky citrine bbw

https://x.com/yashar/status/1987273064426709247?s=61

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412963)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:50 PM
Author: impertinent cracking sanctuary associate

She reports that she "was so close to passing."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412968)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:57 PM
Author: alcoholic resort

i hope she doesnt pass every year so we can make threads and lollercaust about it (________)(________)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412975)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 4:58 PM
Author: Slap-happy Up-to-no-good Kitchen People Who Are Hurt

BUMP 4 DIESEL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412977)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:13 PM
Author: coiffed faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413008)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:19 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Trump Supporter

She’s gonna release another sex tape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413018)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:46 PM
Author: Glittery nowag theatre

Haven’t many states changed their bar exams to make them easier recently?

I remember reading a couple years ago how Delaware was revamping their exam, which I think was the hardest to pass in the country, with California, to make it easier because they weren’t getting enough minorities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413058)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 5:59 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Piazza Stain

she needs to fail. content creation uber alles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413090)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 7:00 PM
Author: Pontificating mind-boggling pozpig

Her failing is pretty great because now that all the Kardashians have gotten too big for their britches.

They're all billionaires and have successful businesses, Kim is hosting SNL and getting acting gigs, Kylie has a song, etc. Kim is fighting for criminal justice reform with the president and visiting prisons.

They produce their own show now so the narrative is that they're all super hard working, smart business women.

Turns out - no, they're not. Kim can't pass the bar exam after studying for 5 years. Her successful "business" is just ripping off Spanx and promoting it on her social media. She's not that great - turns out, when she has to do something anonymously on merit - she's in the bottom 1/3 of idiots taking the bar exam in California.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413199)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: flirting station

Trump is similar. Didn’t actually invent or create anything new that people want, just licensed his name to actual business people. Total fraud, just like Kim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413207)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:44 AM
Author: Carmine cocky azn garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413876)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: beady-eyed business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413878)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:46 AM
Author: beady-eyed business firm

What is even the point of trying to pass the bar for her? Is she going to hang a shingle and start doing bog bite cases? Come on man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:27 AM
Author: boyish garnet hominid

lmao

https://imagez.tmz.com/image/ac/4by3/2025/08/28/acb10df826464eae9ef39d0cae67699f_md.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413912)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: lake irradiated toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413931)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: coiffed faggotry

basically what Angie Varona was doing at The U law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413935)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 3:11 PM
Author: ethereal \\(> ' v ' <)// tp



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49430809)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: Carmine cocky azn garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414012)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring Piazza Stain

I also bar prepped in a string bikini

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414527)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:01 PM
Author: flirting station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414537)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: french chapel

New Of Counsel uniform just dropped

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414824)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: french chapel

I really wanted her to pass so that lawyers would be completely and totally cucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49413971)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: spherequeer (✅🍑)

she confirms she failed, and she is blaming psychics for it

https://x.com/PopBase/status/1988107487606980882?s=20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49429933)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 10:44 AM
Author: """''''"'"''"'''''

lmao this is why she was “100% confident” she passed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49429942)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 11:08 AM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

lol, insane how stupid you can be and still be a billionaire in America

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49429986)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: """''''"'"''"'''''

cr look at Trump. he and Kim made their billions the same way (by creating a celebrity brand and licensing their name to actual businesspeople who know how to monetize it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49429991)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

nah son, Trump made big bucks going up against the jew sharks in MFH real estate before branching out into other shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49430295)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: """''''"'"''"'''''

he didn’t actually create or invent anything new that people want. he just created a faux rich image in between filing for bankruptcy six times and slapped it on a building

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49430760)



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Date: November 14th, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

you have zero idea what you’re talking about

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49430801)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 8:22 AM
Author: .,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,,.,.,..,>,... ( )


I love the "Filing for bankruptcy" thing. Trump has filed for bankruptcy zero times, but low IQ libs keep copy and pasting this meme a DNC intern made up in 2015.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49432693)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 9:09 AM
Author: """''''"'"''"'''''

it was six times bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49432755)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 10:13 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


he himself never has. his Trump-branded businesses in the volatile Atlantic City market have filed for bankruptcy a handful of times, leading to debt restructuring and the eventual closing of the Taj Mahal casino.

par for the course for a major developer. no POTUS has ever had the business dealings or the business successes Trump has. that's just an objective fact.

and oh by the way he's also had massive success in building golf courses. and in running a wildly successful tv show. and in jumping into politics and winning his very first race -- the 2016 POTUS race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49432843)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: """''''"'"''"'''''

it was SIX TIMES no matter how you try to spin it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49432973)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 11:39 AM
Author: spherequeer (✅🍑)

no it was ZERO TIMES no matter how often you copy paste the intern’s bogus line from 2015

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49432979)



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Date: November 15th, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: ,;;,

America also voted in Ronald Reagan, a dashingly handsome bloke, fatface Clinton and his sticky cigars, and now Trump a known child fucker and scoundrel who's companies have filed bancrupty multiple times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49432980)



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Date: November 18th, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: .;:..;:.;.:.;.,,,..,.:,.;....;,;;;..;,..,,.,,....,


UPDATE

https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1990926042232447230?s=61

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49442492)



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Date: November 18th, 2025 10:49 PM
Author: spherequeer (✅🍑)

haha

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G6E9DhPWwAA928Y?format=jpg&name=900x900

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5794550&forum_id=2Vannesa#49442757)