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Has anyone in history reached the level of worldwide fame Michael Jackson did?

Not even Jesus is on his level
Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" ini...
Hyperactive lodge
  10/16/25
Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄
yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship
  10/16/25
worldwide it’s michael and its not even close
Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
Can’t argue with that, Chang
Pearl razzmatazz temple
  10/16/25
WRONG https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp
yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship
  10/16/25
...
Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers i pre...
Gold Center Water Buffalo
  10/16/25
let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name rec...
Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
Trump and it's not even remotely close
Hyperactive lodge
  10/16/25
There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable"...
Gold Center Water Buffalo
  10/16/25
You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complica...
Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
while still alive is an important component and you are not ...
Hyperactive lodge
  10/16/25
Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn
Flesh boistinker dingle berry
  10/16/25
she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorr...
Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
you are so fucking weird
Hyperactive lodge
  10/16/25
She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.
yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship
  10/16/25
Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Mic...
Mildly Autistic School
  10/16/25
but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at...
Avocado Piazza Mediation
  10/16/25
Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess ...
fragrant gaped toilet seat
  10/16/25
...
Avocado Piazza Mediation
  10/16/25
Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Ta...
medicated parlour
  10/21/25
Theres something about music thats different to say a film/m...
Sinister telephone address
  10/16/25
Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that...
fragrant gaped toilet seat
  10/16/25
How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read...
yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship
  10/16/25
When the lights go out in the playroom, they know
fragrant gaped toilet seat
  10/16/25
jfc SP
Chocolate dilemma
  10/16/25
I think Michael Jordan got pretty close
Mildly Autistic School
  10/16/25
yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples. ...
Gold Center Water Buffalo
  10/16/25
get out of my thread you insufferable autist
Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
Jordan is a good one
Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house
  10/16/25
I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is
excitant bawdyhouse laser beams
  10/21/25
Trump obviously
Flirting stag film kitty
  10/16/25
LORD BYRON
awkward adulterous psychic toaster
  10/21/25
cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc....
Thirsty office
  10/21/25
last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis
excitant bawdyhouse laser beams
  10/21/25
Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.
exhilarant sandwich native
  10/21/25
Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.
yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship
  10/21/25
Trump
onyx kitchen headpube
  10/21/25
Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that th...
concupiscible national
  10/21/25
Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk ...
stimulating cuckoldry
  10/21/25
he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and ...
Thirsty office
  10/21/25
Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the ...
medicated parlour
  10/21/25
who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.
Thirsty office
  10/21/25


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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:48 AM
Author: Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house

Not even Jesus is on his level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352666)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:56 AM
Author: Hyperactive lodge

he's not even the most famous person with "MJ" initials you tranny retard. you just like him because he was a disgusting pedo just like you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352673)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:49 AM
Author: yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship

Elvis was bigger than MJ 🙄

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352668)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house

worldwide it’s michael and its not even close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352669)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:12 AM
Author: Pearl razzmatazz temple

Can’t argue with that, Chang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352705)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:17 AM
Author: yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship

WRONG

https://static.dw.com/image/40162725_1004.webp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352714)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352716)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Gold Center Water Buffalo

youre being sloppy with your categories and numbers

i presume you mean "in his lifetime", and so of course Jesus is out of the conversation

and i also presume you mean total headcount of people who recognize this celebrity. so, naturally, anyone famous in an era of mass communication and a global pop over 5 billion is going to win.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352671)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 8:59 AM
Author: Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house

let’s narrow it to at the peak of their fame, name recognition, face recognition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352679)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:01 AM
Author: Hyperactive lodge

Trump and it's not even remotely close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352683)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: Gold Center Water Buffalo

There is a stratosphere of "globally recognizable" and then all these unimportant, noisy factors like

- were there 8 billion people on earth, or only 6.9 billion (2001)

- how many chinks had internet access

etc

Every year there are more humans, and every year there is more distribution of media

So 2025 people will beat 2017 people, etc.

Does that make them "moar famous"? Mathematically, I guess.

I think the only meaningful thing to do is to acknowledge that a small group have reached "global fame while alive".

Popes, potuses, pop stars, soccer stars.

Again, presuming this whole convo is bracketed by 'while still alive'. Otherwise obv Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352719)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:54 AM
Author: Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house

You’re a fucking retard and you’re over complicating this because you’re an autist. I told you upthread all we need to measure is percentage of worldwide name recognition and face recognition at their peak

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352793)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:00 PM
Author: Hyperactive lodge

while still alive is an important component and you are not explaining it clearly because you are a retarded tranny pedophile.

while still alive = Trump (not remotely close)

all time = Jesus (also not remotely close)

michael fucking jackson couldn't hold trumps nutsack and you are a retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49353115)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:00 AM
Author: Flesh boistinker dingle berry

Taylor Swift is basically at that level rn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352681)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:03 AM
Author: Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house

she’s not on Michael’s level at his peak no sorry

she’s absolutely the most famous living pop star though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352686)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:04 AM
Author: Hyperactive lodge

you are so fucking weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352688)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:18 AM
Author: yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship

She never had the universal appeal of MJ in the 80s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352718)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: Mildly Autistic School

Right. Swift fans are a certain type. But everyone loved Michael Jackson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352748)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:34 PM
Author: Avocado Piazza Mediation

but her fans are more devoted on average, so i'd say it's at the same level overall. at the very least it's worldwide.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49353171)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:23 AM
Author: fragrant gaped toilet seat

Would jet black Congo ophthalmologists know Taylor? I guess they all have obamaphones so I guess so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352726)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:33 PM
Author: Avocado Piazza Mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49353168)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:42 AM
Author: medicated parlour

Even old people knew MJ. Nobody over 50 has any idea who Taylor Swift is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363758)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:07 AM
Author: Sinister telephone address

Theres something about music thats different to say a film/movie star like Tom Cruise/Brad Pitt etc where, even if some third worlder hasnt seen him live or on a TV, they're deeply familiar w the work and it transcends that person as a product, they become ethereal

sound gay but even toddlers would know "MJ" just from the beats before they ever saw him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352692)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:22 AM
Author: fragrant gaped toilet seat

Toddlers also know "SP" before seeing him but that doesn't make him the most famous ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352725)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:24 AM
Author: yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship

How would toddlers know who spaceporn is? Do toddlers read xo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352735)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: fragrant gaped toilet seat

When the lights go out in the playroom, they know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352807)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: Chocolate dilemma

jfc SP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352964)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:26 AM
Author: Mildly Autistic School

I think Michael Jordan got pretty close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352745)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 9:33 AM
Author: Gold Center Water Buffalo

yeah he's the first one i think of for counter examples.

he reached the absolute pinnacle and there was nothing he could have done to increase recognition. he spanned the globe.

BUT he peaked during a smaller global pop and before the internet, so someone lesser than he, but who is famous today, would surpass his headcount.

you just need to identify the handful of people who maxed out, and he was one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352754)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:46 AM
Author: Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house

get out of my thread you insufferable autist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352971)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 10:45 AM
Author: Heady athletic conference step-uncle's house

Jordan is a good one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352970)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:30 AM
Author: excitant bawdyhouse laser beams

I don't think most goat herders in Mongolia knew who he is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363732)



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Date: October 16th, 2025 12:29 PM
Author: Flirting stag film kitty

Trump obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49353162)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:25 AM
Author: awkward adulterous psychic toaster

LORD BYRON

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363722)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:37 PM
Author: Thirsty office

cr. he was famous worldwide at a time before tv, radio, etc..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363921)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: excitant bawdyhouse laser beams

last 50 years? Other than MJ, probably Trump and Elvis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363733)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:38 AM
Author: exhilarant sandwich native

Muhammad Ali was more famous than Michael Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363752)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:46 AM
Author: yellow scourge upon the earth cruise ship

Religious figures don't count, Trumpkin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363763)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: onyx kitchen headpube

Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363755)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: concupiscible national

Man, fuck these other comments. You're GODDAMN RIGHT that the king of pop tops all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363756)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 11:43 AM
Author: stimulating cuckoldry

Michael Jackson and Madonna wouldn't have been able to walk down an alley in Madagascar without being screamed at and having their songs sung during their prime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363759)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 12:41 PM
Author: Thirsty office

he wasnt even the most famous during his century. Elvis and Beatles have him beat. maybe sinatra.

as for all of history op is clearly flame. but off top of my head: Jesus, Alexander, George Washington, napoleon, Byron, Shakespeare, etc...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49363934)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 6:55 PM
Author: medicated parlour

Did people in Asia and Africa even know about Elvis and the Beatles? I feel like they were more aware of Jackson.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49364860)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 8:06 PM
Author: Thirsty office

who cares what they think. the world is America and Europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5786863&forum_id=2Vannesa#49364972)