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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
stimulating impressive state
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Soul-stirring Stead
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
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They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
Appetizing bipolar boltzmann
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: stimulating impressive state

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Stead

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Stead

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49128622)



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Date: July 29th, 2025 11:50 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49141968)



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Date: July 30th, 2025 6:59 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Stead



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49143857)



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Date: August 4th, 2025 6:52 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49156580)



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Date: August 10th, 2025 8:35 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49172980)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: umber tanning salon round eye

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Citrine Idiotic Giraffe

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: umber tanning salon round eye

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Citrine Idiotic Giraffe

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: umber tanning salon round eye

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: medicated incel windowlicker

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: white rebellious becky internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: wonderful range cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Galvanic crusty plaza yarmulke

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: disturbing national security agency

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: vibrant whorehouse

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: medicated incel windowlicker

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: Appetizing bipolar boltzmann

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: Costumed french chef institution

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: aromatic gay national

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2Vannesa#49105022)