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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Primrose fat ankles site
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
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Primrose fat ankles site
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
overrated public bath headpube
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
overrated public bath headpube
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Primrose fat ankles site
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
overrated public bath headpube
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Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
overrated public bath headpube
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit
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overrated public bath headpube
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how do they get home?
Odious puce ratface love of her life
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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Odious puce ratface love of her life
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Yellow heady dog poop sneaky criminal
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
overrated public bath headpube
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
Misanthropic keepsake machete
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
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How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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Primrose fat ankles site
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i love scholarship
comical puppy
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genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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comical puppy
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Primrose fat ankles site
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There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Primrose fat ankles site



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: overrated public bath headpube

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Primrose fat ankles site

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: overrated public bath headpube

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: overrated public bath headpube

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Primrose fat ankles site

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: overrated public bath headpube

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: overrated public bath headpube

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Primrose fat ankles site



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: overrated public bath headpube



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Odious puce ratface love of her life

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: overrated public bath headpube

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: Odious puce ratface love of her life



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Yellow heady dog poop sneaky criminal

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: overrated public bath headpube

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: Misanthropic keepsake machete

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: overrated public bath headpube

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: exhilarant blathering hell

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: overrated public bath headpube



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Primrose fat ankles site



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: comical puppy

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: stirring useless brakes

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: overrated public bath headpube



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: doobsian bespoke therapy hissy fit

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: up-to-no-good chestnut brunch coffee pot

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2Vannesa#49515738)