They couldn't be too openly philo-semitic or pro-Israel because then they would just be bucketed with Shapiro or Laura Loomer or whatever other dual-loyalty kike circle and the game would be over. So they would be subtle about it "uh hey guys talking about Israel sure is distracting us from the MUSLIM/BROWN/NIGGER threat!"

But now they've basically lost, they know it, and various factions of Fuentes-Tucker-Candace-ism centered on hating KIKES have completely captured the far right.

They still can't go full Israel First because their remaining audience would disappear, so instead you get this mopey listless whining. All optimism gone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503155)

"bronze age pervert"? come on. may as well have named his account "harvey weinstein".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503271)

'awkshually massive foreign intervention and H1Bs are awesome, and always have been'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503320)

BAPism lasted as long as it did because you COULD just totally avoid taking a side on Israel/Jews for a long time on the far right, as long as you vocally hated nigs and muzzies and mexicans and were misogynist.

The tenability of that position faded through the Biden years and then collapsed after October 7th. Then kikery couldn't be hidden, it had a massive, huge spotlight thrown on it that even normies could see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503241)

i'm sympathetic to their cause - a desire to integrate willing jews into the west - but at this point it's pretty clear that their project is done here and doomed. there's just no compromise possible between western whites and jews. jews as a group are too psychopathic and anti-white and ethno-narcissistic. all that pro-Western jews can do is assimilate on an individual level and larp as white, preferably with intermarriage with whites

yoram hazony and his posse/shtick are another group that's done here. jews and whites just can't coexist in the west. it's one or the other. the "judeo-christian" shtick is a dead end, even if guys like hazony are genuinely pro-white and pro-west and have good faith intentions toward white westerners

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503244)

Sadly, a huge number of totally normal and functionally assimilated jewish people get a raw deal because of these freaks.

With that said, it does seem like a not insignificant number of higher profile jews are completely incapable of changing their behavior (or even self-reflection.) I don't even think the average white dude would care about Gaza if they didn't come to know that functionally all of the anti-white bullshit of the last decade was pushed by influential jews. Forget anything prior to that, even. cough cough michael king cough cough

I tend to think that the actual solution to these issues is to just allow for totally open dialogue. I know that sounds like Boomer bullshit. But it's like, imagine if Irish Americans had the kind of sway that jews have and that we were constantly, CONSTANTLY talking about "The Famine" and having "British Oppression" classes in schools and our politicians all had to visit the Northern Ireland border every election. Movies about "The Troubles" coming out every year, etc. People would obviously think it was insane.

But even if people avoid saying "jew" and instead say "I don't like our overly financialized economy," they get called an anti-semite anyway. It's all so tiresome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503327)

this isn't possible, though, because as you and i and others have pointed out in this thread, there are just too many high profile/powerful/influential jews who are incapable of anything but aggressively and publicly pushing and demanding cartoonishly evil and hostile overt jewish supremacy

individual jews can either quietly assimilate into 'white', like the rest of the "ethnic europeans" who immigrated to america, or they can get the fuck out and go back to israel. even - and probably especially - if america becomes majority brown, jews will no longer be welcome here as a disparate group, much less one that can demand the special treatment that they pathologically believe that they are entitled to

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503350)

I think on some level jews at large suffer because of the way technology and the economy has evolved. Tech, media, and finance became mega-mega scalable and are effectively labor-free (in the historical sense of the word.) Hugely different from building a truly physical business with more tangible stakes.

I would bet that media and finance attract a higher percentage of sociopaths and psychopaths than other fields. And jews have basically always operated in these sorts of functional industries (versus productive ones) for a variety of historical reasons.

It doesn't excuse the current insanity, but I think explains some of it. It also explains why when Trump in 2016 campaigned on bringing back manufacturing to America he was immediately called "hitler" by the press. The thought of even trying to become a productive economy = the fourth reich in the minds of the psychopaths running the media.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503382)

but you need to put yourself in these people's shoes and think about it from their perspective. they are jews who value their jewishness and who also like living in white society and want it to stay white with white norms. they are trying to find a way to have both these things. to have their cake and eat it too. this is totally natural and not something that makes sense to hold against them, imo. especially hazony, who is very open about this (i think it's somewhat fair to accuse BAP of being less than fully honest and upfront about his intentions)

if i lived in china, i would want to be able to live among the chinese, following chinese laws and norms, while maintaining my identity as a white person. jews in the west who are like this are in the unfortunate position of being saddled with a majority of co-ethnics who will continue to indefinitely sabotage their ability to ever achieve this. in a way, they are victims, and i do have some sympathy for them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503411)

This is extremely well put and I agree. Though I think the percentage of them that are truly beyond the pale is not a majority. However, the fact that a majority of jews hold far more liberal views than whites will cause some natural friction regardless.

It would go a long way if higher profile jews spoke out against the problematic ones in the sort of honest way we are talking about. It's like we need one of them to break the ice so we can move forward without a total society wide conniption fit. This may just be wishful thinking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503442)

fwiw i think it's actually *better* for white people that things ended up this way. jews just cause way too many problems for us and being able to distill things down to a black and white "us vs. them" dichotomy makes things a lot easier for white americans, even if it means that some people "unfairly" have to suffer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503457)

that's the cereal box decoder ring for that sector of the alt right. they're gay. they are gay people. they like and fuck men. they're not into or promoting beautiful women because the women are beautiful. they're into beautiful women because the beautiful women bring young men in to prey on. the RNC is also filled with these types. gays. homosexuals.

there are also some very fine and properly intentioned people in that political sector. it's got some of the best and some of the worst in the spectrum in it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503278)

Our ex-/vg/ autistic mexican is fighting battles three times his size and often winning. It's very impressive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503300)

but it would be funnier if someone was so afraid of coming out of the closet they decided to save the white race instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503304)

I was using "gay" as a catch-all in the previous post. I mean it as it is for BAP though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503307)

guys like fuentes had a place with some dignity in most western cultures throughout history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503318)

i think it's just a fact that the same patterns observed in calhoun's mouse experiment are playing out in our post-malthusian human society today. and i don't think that it's surprising at all, either. all heavily domesticated animals end up following these same patterns of behavior

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809303&forum_id=2Vannesa#49503328)