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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:07 PM Author: Carnelian striped hyena theater https://x.com/jadler1969/status/1991251392816611498?s=20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444729) |
Date: November 19th, 2025 6:28 PM Author: marvelous at-the-ready site heres the actual dissent which is a thousand times more 180 than that shitty twitter link:
https://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/gov.uscourts.txwd_.1150387.1439.0.pdf |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:48 PM Author: diverse milky parlor cr. very xo 2020's poasting twitter images of parts of decisions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444819) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:32 PM Author: House-broken Rehab Dog Poop Is Jerry a woman? The first 5 pages are just about the writer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444945) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:52 PM Author: Stimulating Opaque International Law Enforcement Agency Nibblets honestly we need to pass legislation to limit judicial opinions to a few pages at most, letting these faggots go on and on is bad for everyone and produces nothing, absolutely nothing, of value (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444826) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 6:25 AM Author: swashbuckling forum electric furnace *your legislation has been struck down as a vialation separation of powers. The SCOTUS opinion is 6-2-1 and 800 cumulative pages.* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49445612) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM Author: multi-colored coiffed goyim i love it when I have an old school contract or real property research project and find these 3 or 4-page opinions from 1921. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49446199) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 6:54 PM Author: diverse milky parlor i got an A in fed courts, but can someone explain to me why a USDJ is on a 3-judge district court panel with judge smith of the 5th cir? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444830) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:05 PM Author: Carnelian striped hyena theater 3 judge panels are required by statute in certain Voting Rights Act cases. Was enacted during the Jim Crow era to reduce the likelihood that some biased southern judge would disregard the law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444859) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: diverse milky parlor ty. next q: how does an active non-sr COA judge end up a 3-judge usdc panel?
does this mean he's disqualified from being in the pool to hear the case in the 5th cir? and disqualified from sitting en banc? |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:37 PM Author: Razzmatazz Rough-skinned Tanning Salon The case goes to the original Dist. J. to whom it was assigned plus 2 judges designated by POTUS of the relevant COA, at least one of whom must be a COA judge.
I presume the COA judge would not be on the panel for the appeal. Maybe he could be sitting en banc. |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:38 PM Author: diverse milky parlor woah. does any other suit get such procedure? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444967) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:43 PM Author: Razzmatazz Rough-skinned Tanning Salon Yes--Mostly but not entirely voting and elections related (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444978) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 2:03 AM Author: Smoky massive liquid oxygen senate This is still law bort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49445485) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM Author: heady death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444987) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM Author: demanding electric background story ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49445071) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:06 PM Author: appetizing mischievous stock car elastic band Comes off ysff, almost as bad as TSINAH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444870) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:13 PM Author: Doobsian patrolman Blistering! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444885) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:17 PM Author: Sienna Double Fault Office "How dare they deny me the opportunity to offer my deep and thoughtful legal analysis!"
First sentence of dissent: "The main winners from Judge Brown's opinion are George Soros and Gavin Newsom."
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:15 PM Author: marvelous at-the-ready site It contains tons of thoughtful legal analysis if you’d bother to read on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49445161) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:21 PM Author: Carnelian striped hyena theater Wait, it's a Trump judge the dissent reamed?
https://afj.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Brown-Snapshot-Final.pdf |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:22 PM Author: diverse milky parlor holy shit wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444920) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:27 PM Author: Carnelian striped hyena theater Not only a Trump appointee, but from a highly conservative state with a Senator - Ted Cruz - who's normally very careful about ensuring no libs slip through. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444932) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:31 PM Author: diverse milky parlor very good point. and it also looks like he hawaii judge'd the biden fraudvax mandate for fed employees (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444943) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:50 PM Author: Razzmatazz Rough-skinned Tanning Salon He was on the Texas (Civil) SCOTUS for 6 years, so there would have been a strong track record of how he rules. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444992) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:23 PM Author: House-broken Rehab Dog Poop Wow. George Soros. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444926) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:29 PM Author: trip box office To be fair,
1. Extremely Boomerish dissent. There's no reason this couldn't have been trimmed down to 20 pages.
2. Having said that, Jerry Smith has been one of the biggest COA > SCOTUS Feeders for decades. Libs might be laughing now, but this guy unironically has the ear of several SCOTUS Justices and he seems EXTREMELY PISSED about how all of this went down, on every level. When this decision inevitably gets appealed to SCOTUS, I'm not sure things will ultimately turn out the way libs are hoping they will. We'll see what unfolds! |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:39 PM Author: Razzmatazz Rough-skinned Tanning Salon This is about as shocking a statement as you'll see in a "scathing" dissent: "I also need to highlight the pernicious judicial misbehavior of U.S. District Judge Jeffrey Vincent Brown." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444968) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:42 PM Author: diverse milky parlor yep. he also says 20 times that the majesty of law is fraud and it's all politics. has any judge said such things in an opinion before? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444976) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM Author: Razzmatazz Rough-skinned Tanning Salon This is in the same vein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMC7Ntd4d4c (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49444986) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM Author: diverse milky parlor wow, is this real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49445013) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:32 PM Author: bearded khaki orchestra pit weed whacker 180 autism
As he stood in that room describing the handgun, it seemed like any second he was going to casually pan to the side and have a bound and gagged shitlib and clinically explain the handgun's firing mechanism as he blows their brains out |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 9:59 PM Author: diverse milky parlor i'm reading the berzon concurrence trashing van dyke:
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/03/20/23-55805.pdf
where is she wrong? she kinda seems right |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM Author: Big-titted Chocolate School Mexican "If, however, there were a Nobel Prize for Fiction, Judge Brown's opinion would be a prime candidate."
I'm going to be thinking about this sentence. |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:45 PM Author: Impressive Thriller Brunch Wow. I'd love to meet Judge Smith's clerks. Or interview one or two. I'd also love to know what the horse-trading there is behind the scenes on this one. |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:53 PM Author: domesticated abode sweet tailpipe as everyone knows, he hires only 1Ls after one semester of grades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49446658) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 7:53 PM Author: Razzmatazz Rough-skinned Tanning Salon I read the first few pages. The complained-of conduct--at least the conduct Judge Smith is leading with--is that the majority didn't let him see a draft of their opinion until shortly before they issued it (with a note that Judge Smith would be appending a dissent).
That's it? That's his first and best argument? Who cares? |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:23 PM Author: big drunken friendly grandma point I'm sure the opinion is shit but going absolutely BERSERK over drafting practices that the general public doesn't give a shit about dramatically undermines his dissent.
He sounds like some lawyer who brought in biglaw as co-counsel because he couldn't handle the case and is MAF that they filed the MSJ without getting all his edits. |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:01 PM Author: Drab haunting jap lol this guy is 180 as shit
fuck libs |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 12:32 AM Author: Vivacious tantric corner immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49445419) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:26 PM Author: big drunken friendly grandma point page 16: Second, the other factors, discussed below, are extraordinarily week [sic] in this case.
Also page 16: If this were a law school exam, the opinion would deserve an “F.” |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 8:30 PM Author: demanding electric background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49445072) |
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Date: November 19th, 2025 11:07 PM Author: Carnelian striped hyena theater Fifth Circuit guru says majority op is solid:
https://x.com/RMFifthCircuit/status/1991174150615081310 |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 9:00 AM Author: razzle azn multi-billionaire thanks, raffi! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49445885) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:24 AM Author: Grizzly headpube Where are we at on this, reddit tranny? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49451685) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 1:17 AM Author: spectacular wrinkle idea he suggested This is THE DEFINITION of "yosemite sam fuming mad". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49445480) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:45 AM Author: diverse milky parlor the image of this guy driving back from a funeral steaming maf is hilarious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49446187) |
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Date: November 21st, 2025 9:46 AM Author: spectacular wrinkle idea he suggested This is the type of rage that had to have come in pulsing waves. He'd start to calm down -- put down his pen, drawl out a "he's just a fucking fag, into that whole 'perry crew' cocaine and arthouses and experimental gay sex 'thing', fuck 'im" -- and then he'd pick up to finish off a footnote and something would set him off and he'd be back up to yelling at the clerks to tie some fishing line around a dildo "so we can lure that little poofter in here and teach him some fucking manners."
I at least credit his clerks for getting him to remove all the anti-trans slurs. |
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Date: November 21st, 2025 7:58 AM Author: heady death wish https://files.catbox.moe/vf4g73.mp4 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49449172) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:19 AM Author: Carnelian striped hyena theater https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/19/jeffrey-brown-texas-redistricting-00660068 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49446088) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:47 AM Author: razzle azn multi-billionaire the thing is blacks vote 95% dem, so you can never make a politically driven redistricting without it appearing to target blacks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49446192) |
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Date: November 20th, 2025 10:49 AM Author: marvelous at-the-ready site and its also absurd that the court would find an argument that GOP is intentionally forgoing seats in favor of being able to racially discriminate persuasive. at absolutely no level of the party that makes choices about redistricting is a single person thinking this, and everyone knows it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49446200) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:20 AM Author: Crusty motley step-uncle's house candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49451675) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:32 AM Author: Beady-eyed Stain or without appearing to specifically favor blacks either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49451709) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:35 AM Author: insanely creepy talented space Favoring blacks and jews is fine. Favoring whites is wrong. Read the constitution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49451723) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2025 11:57 AM Author: razzle azn multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49451791) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:04 PM Author: Beady-eyed Stain i get your point and agree that that's what some people and judges think.
i just wanted to add that when you adjust a district to make it more likely that a black will be elected, you are simultaneously making it harder for blacks to get elected in adjoining districts and are making black votes less powerful in the adjoining districts. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2025 12:32 PM Author: insanely creepy talented space Not valid in practice. The only place where adjustments matter politically is in the 45-55% range. If you take a group's voice from 25 to 20% or 15 to 25%, it doesn't matter for that group's electoral results. Same if you increase their representation from 60 to 65%.
Where you can get in trouble, however, is when you try to over-optimize your safe seats by giving yourself 55% in a bunch of districts, putting the opponent into a single 95% district. That may be optimal some years, but every now and then an electoral shift comes along, and all of your 55% seats turn into 49ers, and the other side shoots the moon. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2025 1:33 PM Author: Beady-eyed Stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800066&forum_id=2Vannesa#49452019) |