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Lmao xoers are idiots the ones who love WFH

Had many arguments about this. “BUT BUT I’m a in...
Talking mother
  12/13/25
it's 4:58 AM on a Saturday morning and you're raging about W...
Passionate community account
  12/13/25
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electric telephone property
  12/13/25
(WFHomo tp)
Supple iridescent set
  12/13/25
IDGAF if AI fucks my wife, it doesn't produce sperm It's fu...
razzle-dazzle chad
  12/13/25
^ this guy gets it
exhilarant blue rigor
  12/13/25
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vivacious anal theatre
  12/13/25
Well yeah, I am a good person who will raise my wife's child...
razzle-dazzle chad
  12/13/25
don't think you realize how cucked by modern life you are, a...
Cerebral black crackhouse
  12/13/25
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deranged hall dragon
  12/13/25
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electric telephone property
  12/13/25
Lmao the people who say this and blank bump this are usually...
Talking mother
  12/13/25
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honey-headed locus really tough guy
  12/13/25
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vibrant bull headed spot
  12/13/25
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heady church building
  12/13/25
WFH still exists?
mahogany temple
  12/13/25
yes bro. i still havent gone into an office
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
Bullshit unless you mean you’re unemployed
Comical medicated codepig
  12/13/25
im employed friend
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
Industry and total comp?
Comical medicated codepig
  12/13/25
consulting 200s/300s
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
...
Fear-inspiring shitlib degenerate
  12/13/25
sure does and its 180
sooty fighting laser beams
  12/13/25
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deranged hall dragon
  12/13/25
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Spectacular center
  12/14/25
any male that still commutes to an office should be killed. ...
irradiated bipolar forum
  12/13/25
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Passionate community account
  12/13/25
I switched from overnight wfh to daytime, I will now work 9a...
doobsian dead piazza
  12/13/25
Good but you don’t have a wife and kids correct? Yes n...
Talking mother
  12/13/25
Describe how my wfh would be inferior to driving in traffic ...
doobsian dead piazza
  12/13/25
Shitting in my own toilet and proudly using my own bidet ins...
confused masturbator
  12/13/25
Plus I get to use charmin ultra at home instead of tissue pa...
deranged hall dragon
  12/13/25
real men dont use toliet paper
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
real men squat in the ganges
deranged hall dragon
  12/13/25
spend a few hundred and get a bidet
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
Hose bidet is $35 on amazon. All you need. Once you bidet, t...
confused masturbator
  12/13/25
try japanese seats bro
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
cr, get a toto or dont get it at all
sooty fighting laser beams
  12/13/25
Screwing a garden hose onto your bathroom faucet is free!
Mint razzle striped hyena
  12/14/25
...
brass depressive
  12/13/25
my current commute sucks ass which is why i like it. if i w...
Arousing sickened theater
  12/13/25
WFH ended like 2 years ago, come on man
Comical medicated codepig
  12/13/25
for fags, yes. this is true for non-fags, not true.
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
I for one have been healthcare, car insurance, and food pric...
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
You can never convince a WFH cuck that his worldview is wron...
Saffron base deer antler
  12/13/25
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Talking mother
  12/13/25
My vanishingly small chances at finding a wife are only kept...
vivacious anal theatre
  12/13/25
I like going to the office every now and then to mix things ...
startling pale den
  12/13/25
you could... just join a coworking space when you want that....
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
We are all adult men here. You shouldn't have a boss.
Saffron base deer antler
  12/13/25
You're a lawyer, not a subsistence farmer. Nobody cares
Underhanded magical gas station
  12/13/25
I am a boss lawyer. I go to the office and boss around peopl...
Saffron base deer antler
  12/13/25
This. I run a $300 million company.
Talking mother
  12/13/25
180
Saffron base deer antler
  12/13/25
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Talking mother
  12/13/25
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deranged hall dragon
  12/13/25
I'm never going back.
Mint razzle striped hyena
  12/13/25
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Fear-inspiring shitlib degenerate
  12/13/25
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lavender multi-colored pit legend
  12/14/25
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Spectacular center
  12/14/25
What if they make you
hot stag film volcanic crater
  12/14/25
I will literally retire to the third world before I go back ...
Lascivious bright sandwich tattoo
  12/14/25
the middle manager smiles as you receive an inane Microsoft ...
Passionate community account
  12/14/25
me: chillin at home u: covered in parvo
Underhanded magical gas station
  12/13/25
Listen up niggers I am 100% wfh and switched from nights to ...
doobsian dead piazza
  12/13/25
Why don't you just claim to be on US soil while youre in Med...
coral corner
  12/13/25
Same reason why you don't just claim all your 1099 income as...
doobsian dead piazza
  12/13/25
? You can legally claim to your employer you are in US and ...
wonderful stock car
  12/13/25
I mean it's very easy to check your ip. In my line of work n...
doobsian dead piazza
  12/13/25
get a dedicated IP in US. hth
wonderful stock car
  12/14/25
How do you do that safely? I think the safest way is install...
doobsian dead piazza
  12/14/25
op posted this on his lunch break
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  12/13/25


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Date: December 13th, 2025 4:58 AM
Author: Talking mother

Had many arguments about this. “BUT BUT I’m a incel! I love being home in my apartment I don’t need to shower!”

Or

“Omg it gives me so much more time home with my kids!” (Idiot who doesn’t see work as an escape from home for 75%+ of the day.

Or “omg I can do my hobbies!”

Well guess what? Ai is now going to do your “hobbies” your job and fuck your wife and “Age of consent+” daughters.

You needed to be “there” but you weren’t.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506351)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 5:06 AM
Author: Passionate community account

it's 4:58 AM on a Saturday morning and you're raging about WFHomos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506353)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:09 AM
Author: electric telephone property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506449)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: Supple iridescent set

(WFHomo tp)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507384)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 5:45 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle chad

IDGAF if AI fucks my wife, it doesn't produce sperm

It's functionally a vibrator

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506356)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 3:46 PM
Author: exhilarant blue rigor

^ this guy gets it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507120)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 5:50 AM
Author: vivacious anal theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506358)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:26 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle chad

Well yeah, I am a good person who will raise my wife's child between zoom calls, it's called human decency and morality :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506369)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:55 AM
Author: Cerebral black crackhouse

don't think you realize how cucked by modern life you are, and how loudly you advertise it, when you praise petty office wagecuckery as a cherished escape from the oppressive household and family, whose endless needs are the reason you toil so exhaustively in the first place

normalfag life as a distraction from the realization that death is preferable. sustainable only as such.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506383)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:20 AM
Author: deranged hall dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506412)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: electric telephone property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506450)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 11:39 AM
Author: Talking mother

Lmao the people who say this and blank bump this are usually people who are “married” with zero kids and have no idea what the fuck they’re talking about. And why are you in a position that you can even WFH?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506649)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 11:40 AM
Author: honey-headed locus really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506651)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: vibrant bull headed spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506919)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 7:52 PM
Author: heady church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507538)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:05 AM
Author: mahogany temple

WFH still exists?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506405)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:10 AM
Author: wonderful stock car

yes bro. i still havent gone into an office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506452)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: Comical medicated codepig

Bullshit unless you mean you’re unemployed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506823)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: wonderful stock car

im employed friend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506898)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:49 PM
Author: Comical medicated codepig

Industry and total comp?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506938)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: wonderful stock car

consulting 200s/300s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506955)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring shitlib degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507363)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: sooty fighting laser beams

sure does and its 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507001)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: deranged hall dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507685)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 1:34 AM
Author: Spectacular center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49508024)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:15 AM
Author: irradiated bipolar forum

any male that still commutes to an office should be killed. if you do real work and need to be on site its different.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506454)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: Passionate community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506762)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:07 PM
Author: doobsian dead piazza

I switched from overnight wfh to daytime, I will now work 9am-6pm. Will have time to go for a swim before work and go to the gym and drink some booze in afternoon. And I can occasionally do a 2nd job 5-9pm, thereby enhancing my pay. Try fitting all that when you instead sit in traffic at 8am and at 5pm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506696)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:08 PM
Author: Talking mother

Good but you don’t have a wife and kids correct? Yes no one is disputing if you’re an incel it’s probably better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506698)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:14 PM
Author: doobsian dead piazza

Describe how my wfh would be inferior to driving in traffic if I had wife and kids? Oh wow you get to eat your burritos at a cafeteria with your wetback colleagues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506714)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:40 PM
Author: confused masturbator

Shitting in my own toilet and proudly using my own bidet instead of having to hear and smell some other guy’s shit inches away is the #1 reason to WFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506761)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: deranged hall dragon

Plus I get to use charmin ultra at home instead of tissue paper in an office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506773)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: wonderful stock car

real men dont use toliet paper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506783)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: deranged hall dragon

real men squat in the ganges

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506814)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: wonderful stock car

spend a few hundred and get a bidet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506817)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: confused masturbator

Hose bidet is $35 on amazon. All you need. Once you bidet, there’s no other way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507081)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:06 PM
Author: wonderful stock car

try japanese seats bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507355)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: sooty fighting laser beams

cr, get a toto or dont get it at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507359)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 1:30 PM
Author: Mint razzle striped hyena

Screwing a garden hose onto your bathroom faucet is free!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49508787)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: brass depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506993)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: Arousing sickened theater

my current commute sucks ass which is why i like it. if i was walking distance or a short drive/1 subway i would rather go in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506821)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:03 PM
Author: Comical medicated codepig

WFH ended like 2 years ago, come on man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506822)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: wonderful stock car

for fags, yes. this is true

for non-fags, not true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506900)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: wonderful stock car

I for one have been healthcare, car insurance, and food prices NOT INCREASE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506904)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: Saffron base deer antler

You can never convince a WFH cuck that his worldview is wrong. Everything would crumble around him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506992)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Talking mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506996)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: vivacious anal theatre

My vanishingly small chances at finding a wife are only kept alive by my employer forcing 600 of us to meet in an office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506995)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: startling pale den

I like going to the office every now and then to mix things up, but if you’re being forced by a boss to commute to an office every day then you’re not actually making (or going to make) any money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49506997)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: wonderful stock car

you could... just join a coworking space when you want that. i do that as i have multiple kids and sometimes want a work environment for the day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507005)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 4:41 PM
Author: Saffron base deer antler

We are all adult men here. You shouldn't have a boss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507208)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Underhanded magical gas station

You're a lawyer, not a subsistence farmer. Nobody cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507377)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:51 PM
Author: Saffron base deer antler

I am a boss lawyer. I go to the office and boss around people with BAs and JDs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507661)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:56 PM
Author: Talking mother

This. I run a $300 million company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507673)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:02 PM
Author: Saffron base deer antler

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507683)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 7:13 PM
Author: Talking mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507461)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:04 PM
Author: deranged hall dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507689)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: Mint razzle striped hyena

I'm never going back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507084)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:11 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring shitlib degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507367)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 1:46 AM
Author: lavender multi-colored pit legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49508028)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:26 AM
Author: Spectacular center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49508037)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:29 AM
Author: hot stag film volcanic crater

What if they make you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49508038)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 2:54 AM
Author: Lascivious bright sandwich tattoo

I will literally retire to the third world before I go back to an office job. It’s a completely absurd waste of time. GC laughing, howling in your face as you put on your costume and sit in traffic just to sit in an office all day doing the exact same shit you could be doing from anywhere else. It’s inhumane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49508050)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 3:09 AM
Author: Passionate community account

the middle manager smiles as you receive an inane Microsoft Teams notification

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49508051)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 6:13 PM
Author: Underhanded magical gas station

me: chillin at home

u: covered in parvo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507374)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 7:59 PM
Author: doobsian dead piazza

Listen up niggers I am 100% wfh and switched from nights to days. Now will work 9-6 and do additional work 5-9pm whenever I feel like making some 1099. My only limitation is I must work from my home office. True work from anywhere means I could work from Thailand or Belarus. I can go in that direction in a few years bit I'd have to take a 50% pay cut because basically I'd be giving a full consult but some turdskin on u.s. soil would have to put his signature on my consult.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507547)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:22 PM
Author: coral corner

Why don't you just claim to be on US soil while youre in Medellin fucking ladyboys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507740)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 9:36 PM
Author: doobsian dead piazza

Same reason why you don't just claim all your 1099 income as expenses and pay 0 tax. Felony. Could do it out of belarus if never plan to return to usa..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507774)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 10:06 PM
Author: wonderful stock car

?

You can legally claim to your employer you are in US and then file your taxes as US and no issue. You are actually overpaying your taxes and not using the foreign abroad credit of up to $126k. They will not come after you for overpaying. hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507835)



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Date: December 13th, 2025 10:22 PM
Author: doobsian dead piazza

I mean it's very easy to check your ip. In my line of work nigbtjobs pay 50% more per hour and I could work days out of Belarus when it's night here. But it would require a home vpn at my parents house to conceal true ip. That's very high risk and basically assumes if you get caught, you're done working and never coming back to usa. I.e. if you get a dui and escape to Belarus you're not coming back to usa because it's a serious offence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507854)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 9:19 AM
Author: wonderful stock car

get a dedicated IP in US. hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49508337)



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Date: December 14th, 2025 10:26 AM
Author: doobsian dead piazza

How do you do that safely? I think the safest way is install such home vpn machine at my parents house. But to even test that I'd have to go back to nightjob, get a place somewhere linke Minsk and log in. Btw my new job pays almost as much during the day as my old night job, but they don't even allow to work from jewyork. They literally said they don't want to get sued because I stepped foot there.

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Date: December 13th, 2025 8:29 PM
Author: excitant indigo bbw

op posted this on his lunch break

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5809796&forum_id=2Vannesa#49507618)