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🚨🚨🚨Opening arguments in Donna Adelson/shortporch murder trial today🚨
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 8:37 AM Author: Charismatic Heaven https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQHxtbG9nlw
I think it starts at 9am. This was the first link I could find. If anyone finds one with better audio quality, please poast it. |
Date: August 22nd, 2025 9:05 AM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike here we goooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQHxtbG9nlw |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 9:06 AM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay LOCK HER UP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203509) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 11:36 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203836) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 9:07 AM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay the Honorable Dave Blunts presiding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203511) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:32 AM Author: rose marketing idea international law enforcement agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203673) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 9:43 AM Author: Haunting diverse station Holy shit, listen to how neurotically obsessed this Jewish bitch is. Truly demon-driven. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203555) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:28 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night * opening statements
Do you even law? |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:30 AM Author: Odious Frozen Genital Piercing (guy who has never given an opening statement or been to trial) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203668) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 11:29 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night NITA asks where we draw the line: Opening Statement v. Argument - Where is the Line? Part II
https://www.nita.org/s/product/opening-statement-v-argument-where-is-the-line-part-ii/01t4W00000Da69IQAR |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 1:44 PM Author: Odious Frozen Genital Piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204377) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:34 AM Author: rose marketing idea international law enforcement agency That is one big black judge fudge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203680) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:29 AM Author: Hairraiser obsidian messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212961) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:13 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault This guy is great. One thing I like about him is that no matter how long the witness testimony is the second Georgia says no further questions the judge says 'cross examination' in under 3 seconds as if he has been waiting for the witness to shut up the entire time. He's got the fastest draw in Florida! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213430) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: shaky school toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214147) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:43 PM Author: Mustard Embarrassed To The Bone Garrison Newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214181) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:37 AM Author: Odious Frozen Genital Piercing Prosecutrix has an annoying vocal fry in her opening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203684) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:42 AM Author: Ocher dog poop den think of the lost scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203694) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:43 AM Author: Odious Frozen Genital Piercing lol is this her husband? why is he dressed like he's about to board a Viking cruise liner to the Bahamas
https://ibb.co/RkW0fxSj |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:45 AM Author: Ocher dog poop den danny's dad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203698) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:46 AM Author: Odious Frozen Genital Piercing Okay. Same question. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203700) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 11:11 AM Author: shaky school toaster Have you ever met a Boomer Jew? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203760) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:23 AM Author: low-t swollen sneaky criminal clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210907) |
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Date: August 24th, 2025 6:01 PM Author: primrose vibrant fortuitous meteor circlehead Lol. Goddamn I love Florida. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49209523) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 7:18 PM Author: Ocher dog poop den Hes from toronto (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212159) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:39 AM Author: anal nowag casino He's got an afternoon tee time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210935) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 10:45 AM Author: Ocher dog poop den dentist secretary asking if link is worksafe at 11p (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203697) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 11:35 AM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike that's one hell of a beard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203835) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 11:40 AM Author: misunderstood jewess boltzmann holy christ this has to be the ugliest gathering of people since the last cslg staff photo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203845) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 11:48 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203855) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 12:24 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203986) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2025 4:08 AM Author: blathering lascivious corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49206422) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:34 PM Author: marvelous private investor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212532) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:05 PM Author: Light dingle berry rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212603) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:29 AM Author: Hairraiser obsidian messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212962) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:43 PM Author: Mustard Embarrassed To The Bone Garrison Newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214183) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:14 PM Author: Ocher dog poop den lets keep the antisemitism and bad faith to a minimum, mkay? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215396) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 11:41 AM Author: Wonderful gaping who cares, why the fuck are you losers obsessed with this shitty case from the shittiest state in the country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49203847) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 12:37 PM Author: Dead brindle friendly grandma a. Someone on here matched with her on bumble, making her xo’s girlfriend B. Shortporch brought a valuable and rare perspective to our board as one of the few law profs to post here without trying also to simultaneously burn autoadmit to the ground |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 2:53 PM Author: Abnormal cracking dopamine shortporch posted here a month ago
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5753274&forum_id=2#49120989 |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:18 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike 1. someone guessed his login? 2. someone had his login for some reason? 3. shortporch was never the professor? |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:23 PM Author: Excitant Boiling Water State His 15 and 16 year old kids inherited the account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204685) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Someone claimed that Wendi has poasted using the "shortporch" moniker, but I don't know what is the evidence for that claim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204711) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:32 PM Author: misunderstood jewess boltzmann unlikely a non-zozoer would phrase the title as "taking questions" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204713) |
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Date: September 5th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49238544) |
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Date: August 24th, 2025 5:45 PM Author: Wonderful gaping FLAME, not even remotely believable flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49209499) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 11:49 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Ljl at defense opening remarks. Yes it's proven that Charlie hired Katie to hire Sigfredo and the other guy to kill Danny. But there's no evidence Donna was involved, only speculation!
Lmao she is done here if the state can bring concrete evidence. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 12:29 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike *is defense counsel handling tough case* *reluctantly places client 1/2 inch from murder conspiracy* *prays that the Jenga Tower defense theory stays perfectly still* |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 12:31 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204031) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 12:12 PM Author: crystalline area antidepressant drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211208) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 7:40 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49225013) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 12:37 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake cr lock her up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204036) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 9:55 AM Author: talented hilarious whorehouse lol IIRC the cops have her recorded repeatedly discussing the “big screen TV” or whatever Charlie’s hamfisted code word was. That plus her arrest seem like plenty to get a conspiracy conviction at a minimum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210845) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 12:38 PM Author: Slippery jew cuck are they ever going to get wendy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204039) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 12:43 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape they need donna or charlie to testify against her and they don't have that yet. once charlie's appeals are exhausted, he'll have a lot of time to think. I also don't foresee donna enjoying her time in DOC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204047) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 12:55 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault There has never been hard evidence that Wendy or Donna's husband were involved. They have hard evidence from the wiretap that Donna knew about the murder after the fact. And they're going to try and tie that to her having a motive and to financial transactions. This one is the hardest to go through. We know Charlie set up the murder for hire. The state is going to try and prove he did it on behalf of Donna. Wendy certainly knew of this but they can't tie her to it right now. They would need Charlie or Donna to flip and that seems like a longshot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204124) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 1:35 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven As I recall, there was testimony during Charlie's trial to the effect that Harvey knew nothing about the plot and was very upset when he heard about it. On the other hand, I think the circumstantial evidence against Wendi is very strong. As I recall, there were a bunch of calls between her and Charlie right before the murder happened. On the morning of the murder, she drove past shortporch's house even though it was a major detour on her route. And when she saw crime scene tape at the house, she didn't stop to see if her kids were okay. And there was testimony from one of the hitmen that Charlie insisted that they drive a certain model and color of car, which was the same as Wendi's boyfriend was driving at the time. It's not airtight, but people have been convicted on far weaker evidence than this. My guess is that unless they can find new evidence that can definitely prove that Wendi is involved, they won't arrest Wendi until they either get Donna or Charlie to roll over (or give up on trying). There was a rumor that the DA's office offered Donna a plea deal for time served if she would give up Wendi, but Donna refused. The DA's office denies this, so who knows? But maybe they can get one of them to flip if they offer the possibility of parole in the future. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204336) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 1:38 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I knew all of this but none of this is a lock to put Wendi away. It's a shot in the dark at best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204355) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 2:52 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape right now, without donna/charlie, getting to probable cause is a high enough burden with respect to wendi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204545) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:01 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven JFC I see why you were a failure as a lawyer. There is more than sufficient probable cause. To me, the fact that she takes a huge detour to shortporch's house the morning of the murder (with a totally incoherent explanation of why she made that detour) and then didn't stop to check on her kids after seeing police tape is pretty fucking damning. A good defense attorney might be able to convince a juror or two that there is a reasonable doubt, but plenty of people have gone to prison on much weaker evidence than this. My expectation is that if the DA's office can't convince Charlie or Donna to roll over on Wendi, they will arrest her and try her on the circumstantial evidence that they have. But they don't want to do that until they have exhausted all other options because you don't get a second chance to try her if new evidence is unearthed later. Saying that they haven't arrested her due to lack of probable cause is idiotic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204573) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 2:51 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204539) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 2:50 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204533) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2025 3:59 PM Author: razzmatazz sanctuary I can see the state going for obstruction charges on the husband, since he was with Donna at the airport when she was arrested. Anything he did to plan or assist with the logistics of the trip could be scrutinized. It would be ticky-tack, but this whole case seems personal to the prosecutors in Tallahassee. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49207288) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2025 5:20 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven My guess is they only do that if they need leverage to convince some other family member to testify against Wendy. Otherwise it seems like having his entire family go to prison for life is already punishment enough. And I'm not sure they would have a great case for obstruction anyway. If he claimed that he thought she was just going on vacation and she never told him that she was planning to flee to avoid prosecution, it would be hard for the DA to prove otherwise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49207435) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2025 5:32 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven If you didn't see my comment at the bottom of the thread, on Friday, one of the hitmen testified that Katie told them that the hit had to happen on a certain date, because shortporch was about to leave town. His testimony was triple hearsay, so I don't know if it would be admissible against Wendi. But if what he said is true, the state could call Katie to testify to this, and that would presumably fall under a hearsay exception. If Katie corroborates this testimony, my guess is Wendi is fucked even if her other family members don't turn on her. It's going to be interesting to see what happens. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49207470) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:45 AM Author: crawly hospital old irish cottage I think they go after Wendi if they get a conviction on Donna. There's details about Dan's whereabouts that only Wendi would have known. They can't line this up without key information from her. There was a teaser of evidence against Wendi in Charlie's trial; off the top of my head, she texted him after a phone conversation to thank him for taking care of the problem, and she specifically arranged to have custody of the kids - off schedule - during the first hit attempt, which was aborted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211125) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:20 PM Author: Excitant Boiling Water State How on earth did Wendi ensnare some billionaire’s son after unsuccessfully trying to frame a contract murder on her former boyfriend? Either her pussy secretes pure MDMA or there is something about too much money that just breaks rich men’s brains. See also that billionaire who shacked up with Elizabeth Holmes and sired her attempted parole babbies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204670) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:28 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Introverted guy sees hot chick in the paper. I want it, I got it. Sexy + attainable. Can buy for a discount. She's in no position to refuse. Probably fapped to her pics in the Daily Mail. Felt like he won. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204696) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:33 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake extremely degenerate but sounds right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204714) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:36 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Wendi screams "BPD" to me. The problem with BPD chicks is that the sex is unbelievable. I almost ruined my life dating a BPD chick who involved with all kinds of drugs and underworld elements. But I don't regret it, because it was the best sex of my life by far. My guess is that Wendi lets this dude do all kinds of degrading shit to her in the bedroom that no sane woman would ever let him do, so he is willing to take the risk of getting whacked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204721) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:56 PM Author: Excitant Boiling Water State I think this is the cr diagnosis of Wendi. I seem to recall that the day before the murder she changed her Facebook photo to one where she looked really hot, likely because she knew that it would be the one blasted all over the media coverage.
I still thinks it’s inexcusable behavior by the billionaires though. |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:58 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204849) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 4:00 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204859) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:00 AM Author: talented hilarious whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210858) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:28 PM Author: Wonderful gaping did you catch this piece of evidence, VERY DAMNING:
https://imgur.com/a/YPWX2K5 |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:31 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven TSINAH, your thoughts? Do you believe that "Property owners deserve to get their rent paid"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204709) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:37 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape they deserve a belly shot and a shallow grave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204724) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 3:59 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven So do you disagree with the tweet from the (extremely fat) man who tweeded that "Property owners deserve to get their rent paid"? Or is that a different user of the TSINAH community account? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204856) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 4:25 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Holy shit. Did this dude just testify that Wendi was involved in the hit? It was literally triple hearsay, so I don't know if it is admissible in Wendi's trial. The hitman said that the other hitman said that Katie said that Wendi said that the hit had to happen before shortporch left town. But assuming he knows what he is talking about, they could put Katie on the stand, at which point it is only single hearsay (and presumably admissible as admission against interest, although I'm not an expert on evidence law in Florida). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204926) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2025 4:42 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Damn. It looks like the defense strategy is to throw Wendi under the bus to try to save Donna. It is going to be interesting to see if Katie corroborates the testimony today. If she does, I suspect Wendi might be looking for tickets to Vietnam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49204977) |
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Date: August 23rd, 2025 3:46 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49207257) |
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Date: August 24th, 2025 11:55 AM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake donna offered drugs and money to a fellow inmate to perjure herself and claim that katie told everyone she was gonna frame the adelsons https://www.courttv.com/news/state-adelson-offered-jail-daughter-money-and-drugs-to-lie-under-oath/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49208943) |
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Date: August 24th, 2025 12:25 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Jewish mind at work folks
"These goys will believe anything!" |
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Date: August 24th, 2025 2:55 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven I saw that. It's going to be fascinating to see if they try to use any of this as evidence against her at trial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49209234) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 9:48 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The interplay between email C.2 and O.1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210828) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 9:53 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Dan Markel: "The Wife's pleadings are vague, filled with rank and obvious falsehoods, and the legal analysis is fundamentally inept." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210841) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:20 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Jews explain? Donna told Wendi to speed run conversion to Catholicism (2 week baptism!) because she thought it would bolster Wendi's divorce settlement angle. Jews?!?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210888) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 12:09 PM Author: beady-eyed slate candlestick maker native jamie, pull up that clip on the talmudic position wrt “lying to the goyim” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211202) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 12:10 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211206) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 2:21 PM Author: lemon trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222169) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 2:33 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape I love that they got some kike to claim it'd be like dress up or pretend for them. I'm sure that will sit well with the jury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236485) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:36 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Wendi testifying with full immunity. She's still hot as shit. Jesus Christ. Like 99 percentile outcome for a milf. Incredible genes. Donna holding back tears seeing her dotter testify against her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210931) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:50 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Wendi: Danny's life plan was to move up the career ladder of law professorships and bounce around until he made it to 'Harvard or Yale'
ONE OF US |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:59 AM Author: shaky school toaster those lips, those eyes, fuckkkkk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210974) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:04 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I would cum in 2 seconds with her. And then look in those eyes and fall in luv. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49210990) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:07 AM Author: shaky school toaster There is an incredible clip of her bf at the time of the murder on police tape, taking about how she just oozed with sexuality. I wish we had more details from Jeepmo about his hookup with her. |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:09 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I remember that. Danny got lured in by BPD pussy. She's actually the most down to Earth of all the Adelsons and least like her crazy brother and mom. Imagine how fucking hot as shit she must have acted like in law school. Danny had to have mad game. He was a good looking dude too. Imagine him fucking her in her early 20s he must have been willing to do anything for her. And then after two kids the psycho started coming out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211002) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:11 AM Author: shaky school toaster BPD JAP tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211009) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:11 AM Author: shaky school toaster https://youtu.be/lNh9zSqBfPA?si=uhvDfRmmRkjJXI_s&t=955 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211008) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:16 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault ACERBIC SENSE OF HUMOR
she made a WISECRACK that sent Jeff around the bend. He went off on her in a hotel room and she began crying. 'She was fragile.'
'This is a girl so hawt you would throw yourself in front of a bus for.' |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:16 AM Author: shaky school toaster She must be absolutely insane in the sack. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211017) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:21 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault This Jeff Lacasse interview is insane. Her sending him no contact demands, 'she posted a pic on Facebook with her boobs hanging out' jfc I'm sweating rn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211026) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:23 AM Author: shaky school toaster honestly I am jerking off watching Georgia and Wendi back and forth hgnnnngh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211033) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:25 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Georgia is an amazing attorney. She knows the case inside an out. Doesn't even seem to get nervous.
Wendi has gigantic khazar milkers btw. |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 12:06 PM Author: shaky school toaster I am obsessed with both of them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211196) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 12:09 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211201) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:29 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Jeff: there's a lot of men who are enamored with Wendi, who are really into Wendi, who feel protective of Wendi...
Jesus this chick had millions of orbiters. Every guy who thought he had a chance with her was just circling at all times waiting for the opportunity. |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 7:54 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake she's very fragile emotionally (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212241) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:25 AM Author: talented hilarious whorehouse I thought Wendi caught on to the thread before Jeepmo actually met her? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211038) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:34 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She spent a week in New York with Mehul Patel, a millionaire who ran a non-profit.
"It seems crazy that he would be involved but in terms of guys who are in love with Wendi that's the one" |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:02 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake uh, isn't it weird that she'd testify against her mother? or is this is just some angle so wendi doesn't get charged herself? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212264) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:17 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault My gut feeling is that the State is sympathetic towards Wendi and isn't going to charge her. She's been especially co-operative. Despite what the pumo says there isn't a lot of evidence against her. In DeSantis' Florida they probably don't want to be seen taking kids away from their mom.
Charlie they had him red handed because he was the connect to Katie and he gave her money. He was toast. Donna is the last domino to follow because she's unhinged and is all over the wiretap and the emails make her look nuts.
Wendi I think she's getting away clean. Not enough evidence on her. Charlie and Donna were tight knit. Easy to believe that they plotted this without Wendi and Harvey's knowledge. |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:20 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake ty, shrewd. On one hand I can see Wendi being totally involved. But OTOH I can see her being a drop dead gorgeous emotional wreck, who everyone else is always solving problems for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212337) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:22 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Yes. Remember that on the wiretap Donna and Charlie admit Harvey doesn't know what's going on. D&C were a little demonic cult. Wendi: "Donna babied him well into adulthood." The two of them marched to the beat of their own drum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212343) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 9:09 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212395) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:59 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Robert Adelson: "Wendi played a damsel in distressed. She felt Danny was depo'ing her to death." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212384) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 10:37 AM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape I personally see her as the latter. She's just this perfect looking JAP fuck up & her parents/brothers/boyfriends/etc. were always fixing her problems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213307) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 8:44 AM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215946) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:32 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Have you even been watching the fucking trial? On Friday, the hitman testified that Wendi told Katie what day the hit had to happen. Combine that with the (already very damning) circumstantial evidence against Wendi, and she is fucked. Granted, the testimony on Friday was triple hearsay. It's possible something got lost in that game of telephone. But if Katie will testify that Wendi was part of the conspiracy, I think that is plenty of evidence to convict. Especially after today when the prosecution showed that photo of Wendi and Katie at the beach together. I believe Wendi had always denied knowing Katie until today, but I won't swear to that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212529) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:12 PM Author: talented hilarious whorehouse See also, Donna’s clumsy attempts from jail to undermine Katie’s credibility as a witness. Katie isn’t putting Donna in any more jeopardy than she already faces just via the wiretaps. Moron Donna was trying to protect Wendi. That said I still think there’s a better than 50% chance the state doesn’t charge her. They know they only need to hit one horny Jewish grandpa on the jury who thinks just like 90% of the poasters in this thread about Wendi and her massive, epic cans, and they’re fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214087) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:23 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Also Rivera referenced hearing things about 'the dentist' and 'the lady' but admits he never met either of them. Correct me if I'm wrong but Katie never testified about the hit coming from Wendi and they knew each other personally.
We're right back where we started where it would require someone flipping. Jeff Lacasse saying Wendi said Charlie was looking into a hitman is not going to convict. We all know Charlie hired Katie and paid her directly. That's indisputable.
And we know Donna was MAF about relocation and the divorce proceedings and she and Charlie were in cahoots. Even so there's no direct evidence and it's all circumstantial and there's still a 20% chance Donna is acquitted just because they don't have a smoking gun and there's some small chance the jury just doesn't see her fingerprints on any of this.
Do I believe Wendi knew about the hit on Danny? Yes. Did she orchestrate it soup to nuts? Probably not. Did she provide her brother with information necessary to pull this off? Almost certainly. But we're still miles away from a guilty conviction for Wendi. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214636) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 10:36 AM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213305) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:55 PM Author: razzmatazz sanctuary She has to testify because she's being given use and derivative use immunity. Are there any actual attorneys on this website? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212686) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:57 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212690) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 10:47 AM Author: beady-eyed slate candlestick maker native i sell transactions and transaction accessories (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213335) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 8:47 AM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake come on man, i'm just a chill transactional bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215950) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 12:04 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Jeff Lacasse: "Read Danny's court filings. They're insane. They're like this thick. He tries to get Wendi disbarred." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211191) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 1:39 PM Author: shaky school toaster The earnest stare from Wendi at Georgia is erotic as fuck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211376) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 3:15 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I came. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49211670) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 7:12 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Defense is in shambles. State has laid out so much evidence here. Wendi hated Tallahassee, was desperate for relocation. Donna was livid that the proceedings weren't going their way. Donna despised Danny, wanted the grandkids, sent a million emails expressing relocation was her red line, even suggested Wendi convert the kids to Catholicism just to piss Danny off. And then the family actually hired real life gang members to drive to Tallahassee and smoke him. Wendi in the photo with Katie Magbanua is damning. She actually knew the chick who hired Sigfredo and Rivera.
Meanwhile the defense be like: Donna was a good mom who was always there for her kids. No smoking gun, Donna never emailed anyone in writing that she wanted to harm Danny.
Donna is so crazy she makes Wendi look sympathetic. Ljl this is 80/20 convict. |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 7:44 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven I got busy at work and am only watching the recording now. Did the oldest Adelson kid testify against Charlie at his trial? To me, that was some of the most damning testimony so far. He basically came out and said that his mom is a control freak who is crazy enough to plan something like this. He also said she was acting incredibly shady after the murder (refusing to talk about it and telling him not to talk to the police). And he looked so heartbroken during his testimony. It was clear that it killed him to testify against his own mother, but he believes she is guilty and thought he had to do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212214) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 7:51 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault haven't seen this part yet. can't wait. was jacking off to Wendi for hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212232) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 7:53 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212239) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:36 PM Author: shaky school toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212364) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:49 PM Author: crawly hospital old irish cottage This is the first trial that the oldest testified in and it was extremely damaging to Donna. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212669) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:52 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212682) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:12 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake Q: At the time of Dan Markel's murder was the defendant, your mother, very angry at Dan Markel? A: Before he died? Q: Yes ma'am A: Yes Q: And you hated him too right? A: At certain points I was very frustrated with him Q: Did you refer to him as an STD? A: I don't remember saying that Q: Tab 5 [15 seconds pass] A: It looks like I made that analogy Q: "Danny is an STD. One wrong mistake marrying him and this will never go away" is that what you said? A: I did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaStBrz4PeA |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:18 PM Author: Offensive contagious roast beef multi-billionaire she looks completely different
also, why doesn't she plead the 5th |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:21 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake She's 46.5 yo and looks damn good imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212339) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:22 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212344) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 8:21 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault They said granting her immunity was the only reason she was willing to testify. I think she is trying to portray to the court a clean image. Without a big willie reversal in this case Wendi isn't going down. She's showing up to keep her reputation above board to the world, the press, the state, all involved. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212340) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:11 PM Author: primrose vibrant fortuitous meteor circlehead She was hot af when this story first came out but is BEEF-JAWED now.
Her whole family might have skated were it not for her hotness. |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:58 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake come on, you've got to age adjust a little. like no shit she's not 17 any more. for a woman her age she is absolutely top tier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212586) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212601) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:38 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven I know they can't use this testimony against her if they charge her in the future, but it seemed obvious to me that she was full of shit. It seemed kind of remarkable that she could remember every detail of her conversation with Charlie on the day of the murder, but she had absolutely zero recollection of ever saying anything negative about shortporch during their divorce. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212538) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:49 AM Author: crawly hospital old irish cottage She's 100% lying and they have her dead to rights on plenty of other evidence. The only question is do they charge her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213053) |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 9:41 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I genuinely hope that defense in closing reminds the jury of their doomed opening remarks.
"Just to be clear, we told you all in the beginning that Danny Markel was killed in a murder for hire plot that involved Charlie Adelson, Katherine Magbanua, Sigfredo, and Rivera. That all actually happened. You even saw a picture of Wendi with Katie. You heard testimony from Robert that his mom was totally unphased by Danny's death and never broached the subject.
Anyway what's important to remember is that Donna was a good mom who loved her kids and there's no smoking gun. She did not literally tell anyone that she was going to kill Danny. OK. So therefore she didn't do it."
The jury would have to be extremely dense at this point to not take into account all the circumstantial evidence here. |
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Date: August 25th, 2025 10:24 PM Author: fighting spot Wendi looking ROUGH in the video. Like she's aged 5-10 years since the last trial. What's up with all the poasters calling her hot? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49212521) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:01 AM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks Link to pics of her before? I’m with you, I don’t think she looks too great. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213369) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 6:29 AM Author: fighting spot Check out the vids of last year's trial. She was legit back then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215813) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:25 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night MFEs: 2 q's from a lawyer who knows almost nothing about the case bc i havent followed it:
1) the brother who testified yesterday. a media article said he's estranged w the mom and never testified before in these proceedings. why didnt he testify in the previous trial?
2) what does it mean that wendi testified under immunity? does that mean that they would have forced her to testify either way and made her invoke the 5th? did she testify at previous trials and invoke? why would she take an immunity offer -- did she WANT to rat out her mother? and why would someone take immunity to rat out their mom without getting an actual deal? i dont see what she gains, and "looking cooperative" to the DA doesnt like aseem good enough reason to rat out your mom. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:55 AM Author: crawly hospital old irish cottage 1) They didn't need him to testify in the other trials. He was there specifically to show how controlling Donna is/was and to observe her reactions in the aftermath of Markel's death. He also has a secondary effect of blunting Wendi's credibility.
2) she has qualified immunity and perhaps I'm out of my depth here but I don't think she can make blanket 5th amendment objections because the state has agreed not to use her testimony against her. That doesn't mean they can't charge her. As far as why she's testifying, at this point it has to be self-preservation. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:57 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night ty.
did she agree to qualified immunity, or is this something the DA can just grant her whether she wants it or not? |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 10:18 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Not sure and that's a good question. But my guess is that the #1 reason she testified in two trials is that she wants to look like a boy scout. Unless the state has something up their sleeves I don't know about, I am pretty sure they're not going to charge Wendi. The connection between Donna, Charlie, Katie, Sigfredo, and Luiz is rock solid. Wendi is showing up to look like she was never involved and that she's always been above board in all this. My guess is that after Donna gets convicted Georgia is going to come out and say we're done, this whole affair is over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213249) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 7:01 PM Author: milky space sound barrier She's testifying under a subpoena and grant of immunity, meaning she has to show up (due to subpoena) and can't claim the fifth (due to immunity)
Rare to do it outside of a plea deal context but I can see why they did that here. The more you highlight the motive to kill, the more likely it is Donna helped orchestrate the whole thing. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 10:14 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault This is all cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213236) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:07 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Imagine being a formerly rich Jewish dentist serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole and multiple witnesses in your mom's trial say you had a never-ending string of identical pinoy girlfriends none of which particularly stood out in any way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213397) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:16 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The defense is really sad sack here. Almost feel bad for them. They know it's a loser case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213434) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:29 AM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike *prepares series of closing argument powerpoints on "beyond a reasonable doubt"*
https://www.alamy.com/defense-counsel-mark-omara-holds-up-a-chart-during-closing-arguments-in-the-trial-of-george-zimmerman-at-the-seminole-county-criminal-justice-center-in-sanford-fla-friday-july-12-2013-zimmerman-is-charged-in-the-2012-shooting-death-of-unarmed-teenager-trayvon-martin-ap-photoorlando-sentinel-joe-burbank-pool-image536790247.html |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:39 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault that poster should be in every law textbook in America (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213486) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:01 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike love O'Mara, that slide, and everything he does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213531) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:03 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213533) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:57 AM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213513) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:04 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night Wonder if there was any plea offer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213535) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:04 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault JEFF TESTIFIES WENDI KNEW OF MURDER PLOT
https://youtu.be/SaCYcSOkn60 |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:12 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike amazing that she was sleeping with him and setting him for murder charges. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213562) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:13 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She knew. She had to have known. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213566) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:13 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Jeff: "Wendi said can I tell you something in confidence? My brother looked into all the options for dealing with Danny and he found a hitman that would cost $15,000" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213565) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay why didnt he say this in the brother trial (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49213570) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 12:18 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Ti,oc,tcq
Also why didn't he tell this to detectives at the time they were clearing him of being a suspect in the hour and a half interview? He spent half that time talking about some rich Indian guy in New York who was in love with her. He could have said it 11 years ago and been like ayo so Wendi said her brother hired a hitman. How is this coming out now? |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:21 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape if they're able to use this to successfully prosecute Wendi, it will be the trial of the century
and I'm literally the only person on xo who knew "Danny" personally. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:26 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike i've heard that he could be generous but also a bit of a prick. is that true? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214117) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:16 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape I've only ever known him to be a prick. In fact, one of my classmates was his research slave. He didn't write her a letter of recommendation because he didn't "do that." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214624) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:20 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night if youre an FSU retard u need to work for an LOR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214638) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:24 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault What an asshole. Not saying he deserved to die but he really was winding Wendi and Donna up as much as possible. Jeff Lacasse said in his police interview that Danny was a vexatious litigant. Tried to get Wendi disbarred. Stacks and stacks of complaints. He overwhelmed them. Wendi was a nervous wreck. People get extremely emotional about custody and what to do with their kids. Danny was just waking up every day and going to war, full throttle hyper autistic. Katie testified Donna and Harvey couldn't sleep. Wendi was a mess all the time. Donna just wanted to help alleviate her daughter's pain. Hey Charlie you know some hoodlums. Charlie talks to Katie who was broke and fighting her own custody battle.
You can really see how this unfolded and maybe Danny would still be alive if he didn't fuck with the Adelsons to the max. He was also becoming more and more zealous in his religion when we know Wendi was never that into it. You're just trying to spend a normal day with your kids and Danny is freaking out about whether they ate a hot dog. He was a total asshole but agreed he didn't deserve to die and murder is wrong but you can see so easily now how it happened. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 8:18 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape 100% cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214786) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 6:28 AM Author: fighting spot Seems like one basic issue was that Danny was a law professor, meaning he worked like 5 hours a week with summers off, so lots of free time to harass the Adelsons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215812) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 7:46 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault He was flying around the country to law conferences as much as possible in order to advance his career. He desperately wanted people to read the Prawf's Blog. He wanted notoriety because his uncompromising vision was teaching at HLS and probably thought he was supposed to be a celebrity like Dersh.
"My thoughts these days are about Dan, not just because I am blogging here again, and not just because of the recent breaks in his case, but because we are only a few days away from CrimFest!, the conference that Dan created with Carissa Hessick. For several years, it had been a shadow conference within the Law & Society Association conference, but Dan and Carissa decided in 2014 to establish it as a standalone conference. I don’t know how many people realize this, but Dan died the day before CrimFest! 2014 was supposed to start. " |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:23 AM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike agreed that murder is heinous. but all studies of negotiation show that if you are a relentless prick then you optimize the odds of the best outcome and optimize the odds of complete disaster too. |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 7:44 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49217614) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 7:37 PM Author: crystalline area antidepressant drug i don’t know if he was an asshole or not, but it seems like no-holds-barred litigation to keep your beloved children from falling into the orbit of south florida trash both evil enough to hire contract killers and stupid enough to get caught for it might be justified. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49217596) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 7:44 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The kids still need a mom. She's still the mother. You don't get to force her out entirely. Oh, I want total control! Yeah. He could have been a lot nicer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49217612) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 1:37 AM Author: crystalline area antidepressant drug the point is that these people are demonstrably monsters, so maybe the normal rules of polite society don’t apply here. if anything, shortporch should be blamed for marrying into them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49218382) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 1:44 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Let ye who hath not done crazy things for BPD Jewish pussy cast the first stone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49218389) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:01 AM Author: Charismatic Heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49218416) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 12:18 PM Author: crystalline area antidepressant drug *defeatedly drops stone from arm hanging at side* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219217) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 12:33 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Many such cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219247) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:38 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214708) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:29 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault It would be 180 billion if they put her on trial but they're acting like they won't. The state keep repeating that Wendi was a damsel in distress and that Donna and Charlie stepped in to help her out. She's guilty as sin but incredibly difficult to prosecute a damsel in distress.
By all accounts Danny was a raging asshole who no one liked who weaponized devout Judaism on everyone around him. But he didn't deserve to die. Even his dad looks like a huge asshole. Danny was a cunt and if he were alive today he'd be tweeting about arresting anyone who says mean things about Israel and laughing at Gazan children getting blown up. But we live in a society and murder is wrong. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:31 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night >who weaponized devout Judaism on everyone around him.
havent been following this case. explain.
i saw on wiki he's ortho. was wendi not? why would an ortho marry a non-ortho jewess? |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:32 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Wendi testified she pretty much did not give a shit about following Kosher rules and thought his religion was a pain in the ass.
I think he married her for the same reason my dick gets hard every time I see her. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night was he really orthodox, or fake orthodox like the kushners? a legit MO (modern ortho) type in law school like a ben shapiro would never marry a girl who isnt orthodox herself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214145) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:40 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I don't know Avi why don't you tell me? Here he is Jewin' the fuck out though: https://i0.wp.com/thecontextofthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/dan-markel-wendi-adelson.jpg?w=500&ssl=1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214176) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:55 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night inconclusive. she's dressed inappropriate for an orthodox girl, but it's not clear what observance level he is based on that pic (MO vs fake ortho).
and dayam she looks good for having a baby 8 days ago. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 9:35 PM Author: Adventurous Really Tough Guy Wendi testified that he started ramping up the jew shit after the kids were born (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214974) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 9:41 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night go on... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215045) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 9:44 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night rofl @ this:
A friend of Markel told 20/20 that the couple’s parents agreed to split the cost of the Dan/Wendi Jewish wedding (2006). Dan wanted a kosher caterer and he was sure that Wendi’s parents, who were hiring the caterer, would honor his request. His friend said that Dan was shocked, on his wedding day, that the food wasn’t kosher. It was a “omen”, the friend said, of bad things to come.
https://www.jewishtampa.com/jews-in-the-news/dan-markel |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 10:28 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay "The loaves of bread, they are entirely from one location!", Markel was said to have shrieked in horror (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215241) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 10:37 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Wendi to Dan: 'Eat the bread goy' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215290) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 11:04 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215357) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:40 PM Author: shaky school toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214178) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:13 PM Author: shaky school toaster ? https://abcnews.go.com/US/fsu-law-professors-boyfriend-claims-brother-talked-killing/story?id=42065242“She [Wendi Adelson] told me that Charlie had looked into having Danny killed in the summer of 2013,” Lacasse told an investigator during a 2015 videotaped interview.
“She meant it, dead serious,” Lacasse continued. “I would joke around, saying I’d like to kill Danny Markel. ... That is different. She said it in a dead serious, chilling, uncomfortable way. ... In the moment, my stomach flipped. I was like, ‘Whoa.’” |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:20 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape "It looked like a human being, between 5'5" and 6', struck [the tv]" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214099) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven He also tried to testify that Wendi asked him if her boys would be old enough to remember it if something really horrible happened. It got thrown out as a discovery violation. Apparently the prosecution never shared that piece of information with the defense. But presumably they could use that testimony if/when they bring charges against Wendi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214614) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:18 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape I think they purposefully brought that info in knowing it was a discovery violation & knowing it'd be tossed just to put the fear of god into her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214626) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:28 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven That seems unlikely. Before they tossed that testimony, they stopped the trial for about 10-15 minutes so that Georgia could try to verify that she shared this evidence with the defense. And when she couldn't find proof of this, the defense was willing to stipulate that the discovery violation was inadvertent. Also, if you are building a case against Wendi, why show what cards you are holding? That just gives her defense a chance to think about how they will explain it away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214666) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:32 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Tcr
TSINAH is right in that it may have had that impact on her but it certainly wasn't intentional and they would have rather had it submitted into evidence. |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 3:58 PM Author: shaky school toaster Jeff is so star struck by XO Georgia. https://x.com/alicia_c_devine/status/1960335319611420875 |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 3:59 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Has Georgia been bred yet? Are her ovaries still functional? Would do anything to pipe and lay seed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214073) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:24 PM Author: shaky school toaster she's waiting for u with her dog u know. https://www.tallahassee.com/gcdn/presto/2020/04/18/PTAL/80950b11-3a4e-465b-a0bb-51500d5af62f-Georgia_Cappleman028.JPG?width=700&height=467&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:31 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Should I drive or fly? I'm gonna need a car either way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214140) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:54 PM Author: shaky school toaster she's got a 180 family u would be wrecking https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=2942009045950718&set=pb.100004249531570.-2207520000 |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:59 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The power of Christ compels me to take no further action. May God bless the State of Florida and the United States of America. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214235) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:06 PM Author: shaky school toaster look at her legs, brother. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2081530008665297&set=a.101221350029516 |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:14 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I have no words. This is a grand slam home run for any dude to marry. Her husband is Short too. Everyone knows she wears the pants. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214276) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 5:03 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night anything in the rules about her golden doing a cross or two during this trial? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214245) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 4:48 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Subject: Katie takes the stand https://youtu.be/QFiFRWIbs-U
"Why did you lie when you took the stand in your own trial?"
Katie: "I was living a lie so long I didn't know how to accept the truth." |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:19 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven That was a bit of a letdown. She didn't corroborate the hitman's testimony that Wendi told her when the hit had to happen. Wendi dodged a major bullet there. And the evidence she had to tie Donna to the plot was highly circumstantial at best. All she could say was that Charlie called his mom a lot when they were discussing the plot to whack shortporch. I suppose that they had to call her to the stand so that the jury understood the full plot, but there was nothing particularly new or interesting in her testimony. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214634) |
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Date: August 26th, 2025 7:27 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Cr but she did say Donna's names were on the checks. Paper trail. Overall I agree so far the state has laid out this epic circumstantial case against Donna a smart jury would have no problem coming to a conviction but they don't have the smoking gun. Luckily for Georgia the defense attorneys are dogshit ttts. Like 90 IQ max. My gut is leaning convict right now. Nobody directly involved in the murder thought this was coming from Wendi. She obviously skates but I would like to see Donna put away now. I think the jury still gets this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49214663) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 1:34 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault TSINAH potentially vindicated. One analyst said there's no reason to have testimony like Jeff in this case if not to get more and more info on Wendi into the public record. That they're building the foundation to charge Wendi all throughout this trial.
On the other hand there's growing concern that Georgia isn't doing enough to tie this all to Donna. At present Donna has too many outs. It's time to wrap with the foundation witnesses and go for the smoking gun. They need a big win here. Luckily the defense is going nowhere fast. |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 3:03 AM Author: razzmatazz sanctuary It's been a pretty sloppy presentation so far for the state, the prosecutors wouldn't be able to get half this testimony out if they weren't allowed to lead. They're lucky Donna Adelson's lawyers are so incompetent they all but apologized for the state's discovery violation. Where did she find these clowns? But even now I'd be leaning Not Guilty, nothing so far incriminates Donna. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215752) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:26 AM Author: crawly hospital old irish cottage Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216036) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 7:25 AM Author: Motley learning disabled stage Why was Wendi never charged? Deal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49215838) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:25 AM Author: crawly hospital old irish cottage I think they needed her to testify in the other trials and she would have shut down completely if charged. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216034) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:30 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night as i asked above, why would she testify in other trials without a deal? she's essentially cooperating in the hopes that the DA wont eventually charge her. why didnt her lawyers be more aggressive and tell the govt she's gonna stfu unless she gets a deal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216049) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:09 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams TRUE INSIDER HERE
State is exhausted and a bit shambolic, but managed / will manage to get several direct hits will result in quick guilty verdict:
1. Donna's emailing wendi "we are part of a team, we are a team". Lmao in a conspiracy case
2. Donna signing Katie's checks -- action in furtherance of conspiracy, literally CHECKED
3. Rob A's heartbreaking testimony - mom told me not to talk to FBI, when I already had mom responded "well you dont know anything anyway", that was last time I ever spoke to mom
4. Post bump Donna goes to conspirator Charlie
5. Donna flees to Nam due to guilty conscience
its over for donna.
Now on to wendi:
They need knowledge and participation in conspiracy and action in furtherance of conspiracy. They have knowledge through Jeff Lacasse saying she knew and told him. Action in furtherance? Hard. Rests critically on giving shortporch's travel schedule to killers. State will say Wendi HAD to be source of this info. Wendi's defense will say, she could have shared it innocently with mom or charlie.
That trial is a close one. Donna's done here |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:24 AM Author: crawly hospital old irish cottage There's plenty of actions in furtherance that are attributable to Wendi. She asked for custody the kids - off schedule - to facilitate the aborted first hit attempt. She pressed her then-boyfriend for his travel plans in and around the day of the actual murder (him leavinga night early might be one of the luckiest decisions ever). She is the only one who would have known Dan's exact whereabouts the morning of the hit (dropped the kids off, went to the gym, went home).
There's also a ton of guilty conscience types acts, including her driving out of her way to go past the house immediately after the murder, and her obvious, unexplained nerves on the day of the first attempt and the day of the murder, which several people, including her friend and the Geek Squad technician, can testify to. |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:44 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams actions in furtherance Im not as convinced
- The killers have Dan's schedule / whereabouts. Origin is clearly Wendi, but its reasonably doubtful that she knew that in sharing it she was setting up a murder.
- LaCasse testifies about possibly being set-up, but he's the only witness to this and he's a jilted lover. Also, the killers using similar car (not even same car) falls apart. Is there any evidence killers asked specifically for this car from rental company? Doubt it
I think Wendi knew, but was mostly kept out of loop by Charlie/donna. I think its a tough case against her
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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:36 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault It's certainly a tough case against her but I think the DA ought to put her on trial anyway. By this point her mother and brother will be sitting in jail for literally conspiring to commit a murder for hire plot to kill her ex husband over a custody battle. Danny's death directly benefitted her, she got everything she wanted, and she was part of the team as Donna said. It's painfully obvious they were all in this together. It may be a stretch but go for it anyways. I think the public wants justice here. It's simply not possible that Donna and Charlie did this all on their own without Wendi knowing. It defies reason. Lock her up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216402) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:41 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams agree. the matter FEELS unresolved until she gets targeted. whole thing is preamble
i think a good chance a tally jury convicts her, for extra legal reasons. donna tried to move jx, but I bet wendi actually gets to, because there is so much fucking relevant evidence of her calling tally a complete shit hole.
another factor, i suspect at play, may be the state's genuine sympathy for the boys. they cannot simply be moved to markel grandparents. boys are secular jews in texas, final years of high school. markels are extremely elderly observant jews in small town canada. Lmao at traumatizing the kids by yanking them from their lives and depositing in canada. and honestly i dont think markel grandparents are even capable of parenting teens. would love to see Rob A volunteer to take them, behind the scenes
state may honestly want to wait till youngest is 18. Id est he is like 15 now. |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:44 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Lock her up. Justice delayed is justice denied. She killed her husband and she should be serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole. End of story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216425) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:50 AM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216432) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 8:55 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49217780) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219227) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:25 AM Author: Charismatic Heaven I don't know. If the murderers had only made one trip to Tallahassee, there might be a reasonable doubt as to whether Wendi knew that she was participating in a conspiracy to commit murder. But the hitmen drove up to Tallahassee twice. Both times they knew exactly where shortporch was. There is testimony from Jeff Lacasse that Wendi made sure he was in town with no alibi before both the initial attempt and the actual murder. And when Wendi was interviewed by the police, she immediately suggested Lacasse as a possible suspect. And when you combine that with the fact that she drove out of her way to shortporch's house the morning of the murder and never bothered to check if her kids were okay, to me, it becomes incredibly hard to believe that she didn't actively participate.
Granted, the case would depend very heavily on Jeff Lacasse's testimony. If her defense could could undermine his credibility on cross, it could get dicey. But plenty of people have been convicted on far weaker evidence than this. |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:47 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night >She pressed her then-boyfriend for his travel plans in and around the day of the actual murder (him leavinga night early might be one of the luckiest decisions ever)
explain this for someone who hasnt been following closely |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:51 AM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape the initial plan was to let cucky take the fall. she was trying to frame jeff for murder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216099) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:08 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams state and jeff's argument is that wendi coordinated that the killing happened when Jeff would be near Dan's house, done by someone in a similar car to Jeff.
jeff testifies that -- immed after a break up -- wendi strangely grilled him on his plans for upcoming murder date
then wendi in police interview day of murder, tells police maybe it was jeff
-- as someone who believes wendi is in fact guilty, i also think theres a lot of reasonable doubt in the above argument |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:39 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Jeff said that they broke up in a parking lot and he was walking away back to his car and she turned around and suddenly had a lot of detailed questions about his travel plans moments after breaking his heart. Wendi is guilty af. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216411) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 8:56 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49217782) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49217906) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:52 AM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike "3. Rob A's heartbreaking testimony - mom told me not to talk to FBI, when I already had mom responded "well you dont know anything anyway", that was last time I ever spoke to mom"
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Date: August 27th, 2025 9:28 AM Author: disturbing bearded institution rooting for Donna and Wendi on this one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216041) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:28 AM Author: trip metal public bath In addition to his scholarship, he was a consultant for the defense in a federal prosecution in New Jersey involving rabbis accused of extortion by the FBI.[31]
Oh what a legal scholar! |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:31 AM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape Wait, kikes regularly engage in extortion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216186) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 11:21 AM Author: trip metal public bath i knew nothing of shortporch prior to this thread but it looks like he bats for israel and got put to pasture by humans who got sick of his shit.
i hope our yas kween wendi walks and i find it fitting that a murder trial where everyone is a jew or a squat mayan needs 11 years to resolve |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 12:41 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Looking at theories of defense so far
1. Rivera - no theory of defense, pled guilty
2. Garcia - theory of defense: went to Tally to buy drugs, Dan probably died in weird drug deal unrelated to me, haha
3. Katie - theory of defense: Garcia and Charlie may have set up murder behind my back, they spoke once after all. Fact is, I knew nothing
4. Charlie - theory of defense: I was being extorted by Garcia, jealous over Katie. Pay him or he'd kill my sister's ex.
5. Donna - theory of defense: honestly hasnt been expressed yet. I suppose it is: Charlie did this but I had no fucking idea, Im clueless.
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Date: August 27th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Donna's defense theory is literally that she didn't know anything about this and had nothing to do with it, and that the state can't put her anywhere near the conspiracy, there's no smoking gun. Otherwise, the state's theory about everything that Charlie, Katie, Garcia, and Rivera is 100% true.
That's literally what Jackie said in opening. Her defense is you won't find any hard evidence my client was involved, end of story. |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 12:50 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams ah ok tbf i cant listen to the female defense so skipped opening. was just going off their crosses, where they are basically doing nothing
when donna emails wendi "we are a team, charlie you dad and me are a team, now lets do this" etc, i guess she just closes with "a TEAM for the divorce; NOT A TEAM for the murder" lol
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Date: August 27th, 2025 12:52 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Yes the defense is terrible in this. They haven't poked a single hole in the state's case. I believe Jackie is a former judge who has never done this before. They have no idea what they're doing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216617) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 12:55 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams she was kicked off the bench for ethical violations lol
and i agree. theyve scored zero points. maybe half a point with donna shared the donnaharvey@gmail
i hope they have something to show with D wits. I imagine theyre billing at least 100-200k. They have had to sit through 12 months of depos and read thousands of pages of disco, but theyre not earning shit so far in the courtroom
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Date: August 27th, 2025 12:56 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49216630) |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 5:46 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault How is the defense not calling out hearsay and leading every 5 seconds? This is the worst legal team under the sun. Witness just said 'Charlie supposedly said a joke to many people about buying Wendi a TV instead of a hitman'
Supposedly??? The defendant should be livid with her counsel |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 7:26 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault https://youtu.be/XQMK-yw7130
Wendi admits to detectives that in the car ride to the police station, she wondered if she was a suspect. But she hadn't been told yet about Danny's murder. The detective said that he waited until she got to the jail to tell her (but she seemingly found out from her voicemail). You can see her stunned reaction when the detective tells her that Danny is dead. This contradicts testimony in two trials she gave that police informed her of Danny's death in the car ride to the station. She also admits to having a guilty conscience. An innocent person wouldn't be wondering if they were a suspect, and she wouldn't have known that Danny was dead. |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 8:59 PM Author: Laughsome Insanely Creepy Corn Cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49217800) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:06 AM Author: Charismatic Heaven Can that statement be used against her if she is tried for the murder? I know she has a limited immunity deal that says that her testimony generally can't be used against her. But as I recall, the fine print says that it can be used to impeach her credibility if she lies. As I recall, there is video of her first interview with the police where she has a meltdown after being told that shortporch is dead. That would seem to clearly contradict the statement she made that she was worried about being a suspect on the way to the police station. Can any criminal procedure mastermen tell me if this statement would be admissible? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49218427) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:10 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I doubt it. Even though the evidence against Wendi is mounting it's still more likely than not that they never charge her.
If they do, it's because they have more evidence against her than they're letting on. Which Georgia has at times hinted at.
But no, they can't admit anything from the immunity testimony. |
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Date: August 27th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Donna texted Wendi on the morning of Danny's murder that the Best Buy repairman was coming to look at the TV. Remember that Danny much to his misfortune left a detailed phone voicemail about his whereabouts with Wendi earlier telling her exactly when he would be at the gym. Wendi then texts Charlie 'this is sweet!' to Donna. A text she later deleted before giving her phone to investigators. Fixing the TV was code between all of them for bumping Danny off.
Jfc Wendi was deep in it. Harvey may be next just get them all at this point. Even Robert probably knew. It's 0% a coincidence that Danny leaves a detailed message about where he's going to be and moments later Donna calls in the hit and Wendi texts Charlie that he's so sweet. Jfc these are true monsters. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:16 AM Author: Charismatic Heaven I dunno. The taped conversation between Harvey and Donna played today strongly suggests that Harvey was completely out of the loop. You could probably charge him with some kind of obstruction or tax evasion charge if you really wanted to, but is it really worth the trouble at this point? The statute of limitations has probably run for those types of charges at this point anyway.
Wendi definitely knew, though. However, I will assume that the poaster above is knowledgeable about criminal law in Florida and that charging her requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt that she engaged in "action in furtherance of conspiracy." I take that to mean that knowing is not enough. They have to prove that she actively participated. But I don't know. As I think about it, maybe the state could argue that, at the bare minimum, she knew that her mom and brother were plotting to murder her ex. And if she shared information with them about his whereabouts, she had to know what was going to happen. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:32 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I was joking about Harvey. Better to have everything taken from him and have to lie in the ruin.
Cr re Wendi. I think it's still 60/40 they leave her alone. But the chance they do has been going up every day. The walls are closing in. She was the direct beneficiary of Danny dying. Her custody dreams all came true. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 7:09 AM Author: arousing codepig main people why are they going after this geezer instead of wendi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49218647) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 8:29 AM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay easier case to make against donna, who forced their hand by trying to flee. i assume wendi's time will come, she is guilty as sin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49218734) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 12:33 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault It's really funny how Katie talked to Garcia who intuited perfectly how the government was running a honeypot to try and get them to freak out which they all did. And then Katie tries to get this through Charlie's thick skull but Charlie still thinks that it's a hoodlum trying to extort him. I just don't understand how this guy could be as smart as he is and take all the precautions he did and still not figure out that the bump was the government, bad acting and all. But career hood Tuto read it perfectly but couldn't get the others to figure it out in time. It was smart that law enforcement targeted Donna because she was always going to be the weak link. But Charlie really fucked up he could have played it cool and they wouldn't have all of this evidence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219244) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 12:45 PM Author: shaky school toaster He's not smart, he's a midwit Jew who became a dentist (read: glorified body shop mechanic) because of his parents' insistence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219276) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 1:03 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault He went to Nova Southeastern too which is supposedly for rich kids who aren't very bright. But I have to give him some credit he was at least above average intelligence. He almost got away with it. Reacting in such a retarded manner to the bump did him in. The state probably doesn't get this far without it. He should have listened to Garcia more. He should have gone with street knowledge over trusting his own instincts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219315) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 1:50 PM Author: shaky school toaster He talks way, way too much. Like a loud Jew. He's constantly talking. It's insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219396) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault you should hear my calls with gunneratttt. never a moment of silence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219413) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:04 PM Author: Haunting diverse station Its fucking weird how ugly he is compared to his sister. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219446) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 1:13 PM Author: crystalline area antidepressant drug cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219329) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:48 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault My favorite parts of hearing Charlie on the call is when he switches gears in his mind like he'll spend 10 minutes ranting about what he thinks he's gonna do about the hoodlums harassing him and his plan and then out of the blue he'll just say, 'Or, it could be the cops and it's just a setup, and they have nothing on us so we don't have to worry'. He was really good at convincing himself he was clever and then relaxing emotionally. He was great at making himself feel better. And then he'd go right back to ranting about it being hoodlums extorting him. The cops really got in his head. After the bump he went completely paranoid. But at no point did he think it was an actual setup, the cops had nothing, and the cr move was to not react. He toyed with the thought in his mind but never came close to believing it. The second law enforcement made the Adelsons emotional they made all the wrong moves. That's all it took to break them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219562) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:04 PM Author: disturbing bearded institution what's the backstory on how they all got caught? I haven't been following this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219447) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 2:27 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The break in the case was a law enforcement operation called 'The Bump'. Long story short the police found the most ghetto dude in the department, who was basically a fat Puerto Rican guy from New York with a Brooklyn accent (one defendant now serving life without parole called him a 'New Yorican nigga') to approach Donna in a ridiculous disguise on the street and hand her an envelope. In it was a letter that said your family is taking care of Katie and Sigfredo 'Tuto' Garcia but not doing anything for Luis 'Tato' Rivera. The letter mentioned that this guy knew about what Tato did for the Adelsons 'up North' (in Tallahassee) and wanted a pay out.
All the suspects in this case had their phones tapped and they were being tailed by law enforcement when they went out to meet in public. Any normal thinking person would intuit this was a police set up. The acting was atrocious but the cops were smart to target Donna who probably thought all Latino people were thugs.
All the conspirators basically cracked under the pressure. They all got really paranoid, started talking about it non stop over the phone using code words like using a real estate deal as a metaphor. They convinced themselves they really were being extorted by some gang members. They just kept spilling the beans on record. Charlie even called the police number which I thought was funny because he said it rang 30 times before anyone picked up which makes me think they were in an office and not some actual hoodlum.
Also any innocent person if they were being harassed by gang members would immediately call the police. They never did. They were afraid that the guy setting them up would go to the cops with information. This is classic one wrong move territory. All it took was some atrocious acting job by the police that any rational person would think is a police sting and they just went into a total frenzy. Giving away the bag. It's ironic because Charlie used to tell everyone he met that anyone can get away with murder as long as you keep your mouth shut. He did not keep his mouth shut. He went full retard. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 4:07 PM Author: shaky school toaster The acting was bad, but it's all amazing in the moment when u think about it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219761) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 4:22 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault If they were innocent they would have called the police. Simple as. That they repeatedly tried to resolve getting stalked by what they thought was an extortionist on their own proves their guilty conscience. Normal people call the police in that situation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219821) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 4:11 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike all credited. and the two shooters were comically inept about driving up to do the shoot. they left a paper and electronic trail that was easy to trace. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219778) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 4:18 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The most amazing part is that Garcia accidentally blew a hole in the rental car that cut off the gas line, but because on the first trip he had befriended a local hoodlum in Tallahassee he quickly got the tools to fix it without arousing suspicion. He may have been inept but he also had more street sense than anyone else.
It's 180 that the cops let Tuto and Tato roam free long enough to ensnare Katie, Charlie, and Donna in the plot. Good on them. |
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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:59 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena i forgot how bad the phone calls were. lmao at the real estate one. just endlessly talks in circles in obvious code and thinks that's not suspicious. the conversation was totally pointless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49228318) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 4:16 PM Author: shaky school toaster Charlie talks so, so, so much on these wiretaps lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49219807) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 4:19 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault "I just don't want to say anything over the phone."
*spews multiple days worth of evidence* |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 6:31 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220093) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 8:10 PM Author: shaky school toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220269) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 10:19 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Did anyone else catch the line where Charlie said that he wouldn't let the police search his phone because he has too many dick pics on it? "I'm not going to let the police laugh at my tiny pee pee." Or something to that effect? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220603) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 10:21 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault There was another one where he told someone "You're my favorite Jew" he definitely would have been a poaster if he had gone to lolschool. Courtroom reporters said the jury had difficulty not laughing at Charlie's antics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220605) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 10:28 PM Author: arousing codepig main people Can they wiretap through WhatsApp and Signal or was he dumb enough to do regular calls? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220617) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 10:44 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I think he switched to WhatsApp at some point. But also told Katie her WhatsApp calls only came through some of the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220678) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 6:42 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Judge Everett: "After conferring with attorneys we will have a little bit of an earlier recess this evening. You may continue."
Georgia: "Ah, these promises... *cheeky smirk*"
*laughter from the gallery*
Judge Everett: "The other way of saying it is we're going to hold you captive listening to phone calls. However, the pleasant way is the end is near. Ms. Cappleman."
*Evertt is laughing now, whole room is chuckling.
Georgia: "Torture will continue until morale improves."
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Date: August 28th, 2025 7:12 PM Author: milky space sound barrier Wendi is going to be a difficult case unless Charlie or Donna sing. And I doubt either of them do. Donna will die in prison even if she agrees to testify and she's just glad her grandchildren are out of Dan's hands. And Charlie I guess has more reason to rat, but if he didn't plea to get Donna I don't think he would for Wendi either.
The case against her is pretty good but almost all circumstantial. The defense could even plausibly argue that maybe Wendi knew something was going to happen, but didn't participate in it. The link from the hitmen to Wendi is too attenuated right now.
I think the state should try anyway, but she'll probably walk which will be a tragedy. This family is evil thank God they're also unbelievably stupid. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 7:19 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault trial of the century if they put her on
fact: she is guilty and did know about it and was the primary beneficiary of the conspiracy
they may or may not have enough evidence to convict. better try than let her walk away. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 7:33 PM Author: arousing codepig main people Guys at my high school did murder for hire all the time without permission from the person that would benefit all the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220206) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 7:53 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Wendi could have come forward at any point in the years when her mother and brother were carrying on with life as if nothing had happened, enjoying time with the grandkids and nephews, living their ideal retirement with Danny out of the picture, blocking access from Danny's parents to see the kids. She could have stepped up and said I know something happened here and helped out the prosecution. Instead, nothing. Just an innocent dove. Oh, I had no idea why two gang members from South Florida drove to Tallahassee in the middle of an acrimonious custody dispute and offed my ex husband! It was just really fortunate and now I'm here in Miami living exactly how I had hoped to!
Danny wanted 3 things. He wanted location (Tallahassee, raise the kids in the marital home where they were born). He wanted education, I'm assuming private Hebrew school. And he wanted religion, Orthodox Jew. And Wendi wanted none of that. And she got to have everything her way. Oh, I didn't know! I couldn't have known! How was I to know?!
Burn the witch. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 7:59 PM Author: fighting spot Does Tallahassee have a private Hebrew school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220242) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 8:09 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Guess not. Probably why Danny said education and religion. He probably would have put his kid in Catholic school like CSLG and Hebrew school on Saturdays or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220263) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 10:32 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night i looked. nope. only pre-school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220630) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 2:26 AM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape I think the defense's best shot would be to spin Wendi as this completely helpless fuck up whose overprotective jew family interfered in literally every aspect of her life, he upbringing, her relationships, etc to the point where Wendi was more or less raised to become a completely helpless fuck up whose overprotective jew family handles *everything* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221007) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 2:45 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault They all wanted to move to some luxury high rise in Miami and live happily ever after. Donna thought Wendi was going to get a 1mm per annum law job which ultimately fell through. Donna thought they could have it all. The kids, the condo, the money, all in Miami. The complete dream. It was Donna's dream but if anyone wanted it too it was Wendi. Wendi hated Tallahassee. She thought Danny was a controlling freak. She didn't want to be extremely religious. One weird trick to get everything they wanted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221023) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 9:04 AM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape so what was the real reason she got with him? I know he was her prof at UMiami & I imagine that had something to do with it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221282) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 5:40 PM Author: milky space sound barrier Yeah and it wouldn't even be out of the realm of an unreasonable defense here. It's really a fucking shame that for all their stupidity, Charlie and Donna did a pretty decent job of keeping Wendi's fingerprints off the crime
The detour to the home the day of the murder, with no phone call to Dan to see how the kids were when she saw the police tape, is extraordinarily damaging. But proving her guilt will be very difficult, even under conspiracy liability. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 10:50 PM Author: Coiffed Dragon How is the sentiment ITT that the state might not try Wendi or that she might walk? She's guilty as sin, and if you told the average guy on the street the 90-second version of the case, he'd say, "obviously she knew about the plot and helped them execute it."
Wendi had an extremely strong motive for wanting Shortporch dead.
Wendi's mom and brother have been/will soon be convicted of hiring hitmen to kill him.
Wendi was critical to the plot insofar as the info about where Shortporch would be had to come from her.
She changed the kids' schedule to accommodate the hit.
She asked Jeff all about his schedule to put the hit on him.
And she inexplicably drove by the house the day of the murder.
Jurors may be dumb in the sense of being ill suited to assess whether a certain microchip infringes a patent or what appropriate damages are in a penis-burn case. But the basic evidence against Wendi is more than a jury would need to convict.
The state will charge Wendi. A jury will convict. They won't deliberate for long. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:02 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The consensus in the community of legal analysts prior to the Donna trial is that Wendi would walk. The consensus has now shifted to where a lot of people are saying that Georgia has been leaving Wendi breadcrumbs to amp up public sentiment to get it done. The Science changed and it's starting to tilt to where the People of Tallahassee want blood. So you very well may be right about everything. But a couple weeks ago the trail on Wendi was cold. It's warming up by the day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220724) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:17 PM Author: Coiffed Dragon Why was the consensus before the Donna trial that Wendi would walk? You don't need any huge logical leaps to see she participated in the conspiracy, even based only on what was known a couple years ago. Jurors would get it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220751) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:29 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault That may or may not be true. Many real life crimdef lawyers covering this case think Wendi is still a longshot. A lot of it is based on circumstantial evidence. You have to have more than just she was the prime beneficiary of Danny's death in a murder for hire plot conducted by her mom and brother.
Donna and Charlie's fingerprints are on everything. They plotted it, found the people, wrote the checks, got caught on a wire acting extremely guilty, two co-conspirators testified against them. An unindicted co-conspirator (Wendi) testified against them. These are slam shut.
What changed is in the Donna trial a lot more has come out about Wendi, fueling public antipathy against her. But the state still has nowhere near the smoking gun they have against Charlie and Donna.
But sentiment is really moving against Wendi and more people feel like you do. The consensus building against Wendi is so what if we don't have a slam dunk case against her. Do it anyway. I think a lot of people are coming around to that. It's going to be a very difficult trial to put on. For instance in the Donna case 90% of the evidence so far has been about Donna's co-conspirators, indicted as well as unindicted. So we'll see. I think the will of the people is bubbling up to seek justice against Wendi. It's getting more and more likely to happen. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: Coiffed Dragon Fair enough about it all being circumstantial against Wendi. But jurors are going to hear the circumstance of her driving by the house and know that stinks to high heaven. Juries have convicted on much less than the state has against Wendi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220798) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:46 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Some think her phonecall/text argument with Danny on the day of the murder proves she didn't know. She wasn't acting like she was setting him up. A lot could come into play. But Wendi never acted super sus on the level of Charlie and Donna. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220801) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:30 PM Author: arousing codepig main people Just frame your boyfriend, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220778) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:32 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Jeff has been waiting all these years to put Wendi away. No one except Danny's Truly Weird Canadian Jew dad wants this more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220779) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:39 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven I hope he is ready. I'm much more bullish on the case against Wendi than many people in this thread, but even I will concede that Jeff's testimony is absolutely critical in order to get charges against Wendi to stick. If the defense can paint Jeff as a vindictive ex-boyfriend with an axe to grind or otherwise undermine his credibility, Wendi could very well walk. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220792) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:46 PM Author: Coiffed Dragon The state doesn't need anything from Jeff, he's an extra nice to have to tie together all the other evidence against Wendi. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220800) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 10:13 AM Author: Charismatic Heaven I disagree. In her testimony, Wendi tried to convince jurors that she wasn't really that mad at shortporch; just regular couple arguments. And she was totally fine staying in Tallahassee and decided it was actually better than Miami. Without Jeff's testimony, she could easily convince a jury that there was no motive for murder. Also, Jeff testified that not only did Wendi admit to hiring a hitman, but she also asked him if her kids would be old enough to remember if their father got whacked. This is the best evidence we have currently that Wendi was aware of the plot and supported it. Plus his testimony about Wendi grilling him about his travel plans followed by Wendi suggesting his name as a suspect at her first police interview. Jeff also testified that Wendi appeared to have deliberately damaged her own TV (giving her an alibi at the time of the murder).
Without Jeff, the case against Wendi is extremely circumstantial at best. Basically the only real evidence the state has are the fact that Wendi drove by the crime scene shortly after the hit and didn't check on her kids or call the police afterward and the fact that she lied under oath about hearing about shortporch's death on the way to the police station. Based on the evidence I have seen so far, Jeff's testimony will be absolutely critical if they want to take down Wendi. |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:47 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Adelson defense counsel ranked: Wendi: ??? Charlie: B for creativity and a dogshit case Donna: F, totally in over their heads
Wendi should call Karen Read. You gotta go out of state for this one. |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:09 AM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena He seems way too analytical and scholarly to be the vindictive ex who would go out of his way to paint his innocent ex-girlfriend as a murderer. I doubt a jury will buy that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220920) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:40 PM Author: razzmatazz sanctuary Katie sounds more and more gangsta as the wiretap goes on. I think they're all innocent except Rivera and Garcia, Charlie and Katie were just having too much fun pretending they were Avon Barksdale and Stringer Bell, and the game got out of hand, like in Foucault's Pendulum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220793) |
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Date: August 28th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault There's a lot in the comments about how Katie talks White to Charlie but talks ghetto to Garcia. It's pretty funny. That she was between two worlds. She really was a go-between. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49220799) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 9:10 AM Author: Vigorous Grizzly Skinny Woman I think any of these women who are receptionists in doctors offices have to be like that. On the one hand you are dealing with BMW driving striving dentist all day, and then you go home to your husband the truck driver and grown kinds working in an Amazon warehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221302) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 12:46 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault https://i.redd.it/m3ntek2r2alf1.jpeg
somebody needed to poast this from Georgia's evidence, the cover of an Israeli version of Puss in Boots that Danny supposedly played for his kids to teach them Hebrew. Origin of the term 'Jibbers' or "Jew in Boots". Sadly Georgia skipped over this when grilling Wendi. |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 10:27 AM Author: anal nowag casino Hava Nagila plays as DBG approaches for redirect on Jew in Boots testimony. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221507) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 12:05 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221789) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 8:15 PM Author: arousing codepig main people This come out today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234966) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 10:18 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams NEW EVIDENCE: donna had shortporch's vehicle and tag number in her daily planner from murder year.....
its over
imagine an innocent reason to have your ex-SIL's license plate number written in your planner |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 8:20 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222947) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 11:12 AM Author: shaky school toaster jfc Donna's lawyer is shit, the cross of the lead cop here is a waste of fucking time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221635) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 12:05 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She's been bad since the beginning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221792) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 12:26 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Ljfl that Donna was caught on a hot jail mic talking about how Wendi sent her a message saying my lawyer has advised me to not talk to my family at all and to not talk about the case. Wendi lawyering up against her own fam. Donna thought Wendi was being cold for not calling the fam to talk about how sad it was that Charlie was convicted. Wendi claiming 'it's not my fault how the prosecutor used my testimony! I had nothing to do with this and I did nothing wrong!'
This already shows how Wendi is preparing for trial and is not nearly as dumb as her mom and brother. Another main reason she may walk. Just hasn't been going around talking about it endlessly for years makes her seem innocent relative to her family. |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: shaky school toaster You can see glimmers of Wendi's brilliance and why Dan was attracted to her. At the same time, she had a shit pedigree, she was stuck in a shitty job at Florida State, and Dan constantly talked down to her like a child. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221851) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 12:53 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She's a clever girl. Maybe she baited Charlie and Donna into killing Danny for her but without ever saying it. Charlie still seems to care about his sister and was hoping she would call him in jail. Charlie and Donna have never acted like Wendi played them. And Wendi has never acted as if she were guilty or knew anything about it. Odd case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221923) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:42 PM Author: shaky school toaster Golden BPD JAP pussy tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222022) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I had this. It changed my life. And then I lost it. Sad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222040) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:48 PM Author: shaky school toaster I need 2-3 paragraphs on this by eod thank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222044) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:50 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222053) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 2:16 PM Author: shaky school toaster holy fuckkkkkk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222152) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 8:21 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Repoast plz. Or send to my throwaway: eta406@gmail.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222952) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:24 PM Author: talented hilarious whorehouse She’s just a sociopath. Her brain gets more engaged and activated when she realizes she needs to avoid a source of danger in order to get away with doing something wrong. Any doubt I might’ve had about this was completely removed when I got to hear Jeff testify in the Charlie case, let alone this one. It’s crazy watching the progression from the police interviews in the immediate aftermath to the Charlie trial to now. Jeff is the ultimate dumb goy slowly catching on to the fact that he barely avoided getting asspounded in prison because he was so enthralled by her Khazar milkers and kept-Kosher cunnus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49221984) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:32 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She might get away with it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222000) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:37 PM Author: talented hilarious whorehouse Yeah. There’s also a socialization aspect of how good Jewesses are at pussytrapping especially dumb goys, but her sociopathology made her particularly attuned to these skills, probably because she was already working it out while she was still an adolescent and could practice on all the Jewish pervs in her orbit who lust after underage girls constantly like Epstein and DGB. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222010) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:40 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Big titted teen sociopath practicing mind games on older Jewish pervs tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222019) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:43 PM Author: crystalline area antidepressant drug also she grew up in a festering snakepit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222026) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 1:46 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault How cum Robert turned out okay? He must go to sleep at night replaying all of the weird controlling behavior of his mother in his head. Thinking back to odd things that happened in childhood. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222038) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 2:28 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams State should have not used this WOC jailhouse snitch. She sucks, dumb as shit, cannot tell a straight story, contradicts her depo.
There really was no need for this, and if anything its the first time in the trial I have felt like Donna was being accused of anything false. Donna would never have answered the question, "Did you kill Markel?" with "Yes, to get my grandkids", esp to some black thugess. Lol. Some conniving jewess senior cit is just going to confess outright to a 75IQ black dyke
Greedy by the state, and an unforced error |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 2:34 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay lol i saw that, yes she was very unconvincing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222202) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 2:34 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams oh boy now they are bringing out donna's jail lover.... holy fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222205) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 3:00 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay white prole chick was better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222279) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 3:12 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams far better
this handwriting expert wit is so fucking nervous it is painful to me. shaky breath, losing her shit. very uncomfortable
shouldnt forensic handwriting experts have some experience on the stand? |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 8:25 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven That was my thought initially, but then they brought out the other jailhouse snitch. It seems pretty unlikely to me that two different jailbirds decided to try to frame Donna, especially since the state had a very strong case even without their testimony. The first one was dumb, but I don't think she is completely making it up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222959) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 3:15 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams some talk by judge that state could rest today or tuesday. Ive been waiting forever to watch them call the miami lawyers, for personal reasons.
tara kawass, david markus, etc.. but esp Sara Yousef, Wendi's "ex bff" from law school.
if state rests w/o calling these lolyers I will be maf |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 3:20 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222318) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 3:33 PM Author: Haunting diverse station Real talk, Jeff never had any prospect of being convicted for the murder. How did they get the tutu/Tata or whatever? Cell phone geolocation Jeff would obviously have his lawyer subpoena the cell phone records which would show he was engaged in his regular routine at that time, and probably there would be witnesses placing him at those locations as well. |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 3:35 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike it was a bird brain idea by the Adelsons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222348) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault It was the Jewish Mind at work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222349) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 4:40 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams the state and fed response to this killing was surprisingly energetic and competent.
i would imagine none of the jews involved (apart from crim procedure professor dan) expected such an investigation
they probably thought "pretty good line of separation btwn the jews and the hispanics here", neighbor or someone is just going to see a car and this will go nowhere, worst case lacasse is suspected |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 4:41 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams also tbf, the adelsons had basically gotten away with this until the "bump", when they all freaked out.
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Date: August 29th, 2025 6:27 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222696) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 6:28 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Evil colluding Heebs > ghetto pinay pussy > puerto rican hoodlums
The cycle of a Conspiracy |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 6:22 PM Author: crystalline area antidepressant drug these aren’t smart people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222679) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 4:53 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams FUCKING SHIT, FUCKING STATE RESTS
DID NOT CALL ANY OF THE LAWYERS
Def wits are going to be shit. "Im donna's old friend from california she was always interested in vietnam" etc.
Then I think Donna will testify and thats it.
Closings wednesday and thursday. Verdict before weekend |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 6:27 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Cr all around
Defense is toast. Hard to imagine Donna could be any less charismatic than Charlie but anything is possible. |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 6:50 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Bet she’s gonna be weepy
“I believed Charlie was being extorted
I wanted to die, I wanted to flee but not out of guilt just away from prying eyes
I LOVED those boys but I had no idea of any plot.” *weeps* |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She's going to look terrible. The guilt is off the charts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49222818) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 8:24 PM Author: arousing codepig main people Jailhouse snitch testimony is such a joke.
Ok I take it back Donna wrote a script for an inmate! |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 9:40 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams black snitch seemed too dumb to resist sweetening up her testimony
white snitch was much more credible, and the handwriting was clearly donna's. not to mention, lol, that donna scripted her saying "i read it in the newspaper". Like anyone under 70, much less some 20+ felonies meth head prostitute, reads a newspaper
that detail alone proved white snitch was really telling the truth and donna really was stupid enough to solicit her perjury |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 9:44 PM Author: arousing codepig main people called suborning perjury, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49223121) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: shaky school toaster Always a fucking pumo. This testimony is amazing. Donna literally wrote a script of lies in her own hand to give to a jailhouse snitch. |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 9:44 PM Author: arousing codepig main people The WORST Defense Strategy EVER Seen In A Courtroom! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKJ_E6OyM3I
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Date: August 29th, 2025 9:52 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault I said this from the beginning. "The state's theory of the preceding 4 cases has been utterly immaculate down to the last detail. However, there is no evidence my client was involved. And we're going to prove it."
*8 days of Georgia going through the evidence with virtually no dispute from the defense* |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 10:25 PM Author: arousing codepig main people Prole brains might not accept circumstantial evidence so they should hammer that there is no smoking gun. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49223330) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault It's all they've got. Question is would you admit that Donna knew anything but knowing of a conspiracy isn't murder 1? Maybe lesser charge?
When Donna takes the stand she will be forced to confront whether she knew about it at all. If she says yes she's toast. If you agree with some of the state's narrative you look totally complicit.
Jackie said she was going to disprove all the charges. So Donna has to explain why she's on all the wiretaps panicking and talking to Charlie like she knows. She's fucked. |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 11:10 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven It was mildly amusing to see the look on Donna's face during that opening. She was very clearly thinking, "Oh God. I am so fucked." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49223452) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 11:01 PM Author: razzmatazz sanctuary Imagine if Donna had competent lawyers who objected to leading every time and forced the state to get out the testimony the right way. They'd be there for weeks. I bet the jury was already falling asleep from the nine hours of phone calls, judging by how the prosecutors and even the judge was apologizing for them; the state might lose them entirely if they had to stop with the leading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49223442) |
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Date: August 29th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Karen Read trial they bored the jury to death and then made the cops look utterly disgraced. They got a mistrial so some of the jurors actually paid attention enough to figure out she was guilty. By the time of the retrial there was no public trust in law enforcement. The lawyers won and they got lucky because a shitty judge lost control of the courtroom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49223458) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 9:44 AM Author: arousing codepig main people The Jewish stereotypes validated by this incident are lulzy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49223828) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 12:04 PM Author: Haunting diverse station I was not familiar with the "good looking Ashkenazi female" stereotype but ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49224092) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 12:24 PM Author: Ocher dog poop den Isn’t it easy (but retarded) to criticize the defense’s strategy when you think that there’s objectively a good case against her? What would you do differently? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49224123) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 12:31 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She is totally porked but levels better defense trial lawyers exist. It's a loser case but the defense has let too much evidence pass into the record without challenging it. Georgia leads all her witnesses by telling them exactly what to say. It's borderline unconstitutional. Witnesses are supposed to testify to what they saw and experienced, not nod along to the prosecution's narrative. Defense should be going ham to stop the state's train but they have sat back and done nothing. The whole strategy is yes the state is right about everything but my client isn't implicated. The problem is their client is implicated and they've done nothing to push back at all on anything. It's retarded. If your life was on the line you wouldn't want to be defended by retards now would you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49224134) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 12:40 PM Author: Ocher dog poop den I assumed the leading questions were specifically being allowed for some unknown reason (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49224164) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 12:46 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Why would that be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49224176) |
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Date: August 31st, 2025 6:05 PM Author: Ocher dog poop den maybe they agreed to let each other do it for efficiency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49226962) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 8:54 AM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks I can’t think of a circumstance where any defense atty would agree to this, even bad ones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230373) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 9:22 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230412) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 12:47 PM Author: arousing codepig main people Why did she go with these TTT lawyers given they have so much money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49224178) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 12:52 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She's not the sharpest tool in the shed. She didn't have a valid passport ready to go. Boomer doesn't know she's on a recorded line. Admits she doesn't get computers.
This is a family that spewed an incredible amount of evidence they committed a murder for hire. They just couldn't help themselves. I think any rational person with their head screwed on would have known the Bump was law enforcement. The acting was so bad. No one picked up that it was a sting except Sigfredo Garcia but they didn't listen to him.
They were in so far over their heads. So yes why did she do anything. She's a retard. She could have bought a house in Tallahassee and seen her grandkids any time. But she's an egotistical moron she's gonna end up in prison over an hour flight.
She could have been on the call telling Charlie she didn't know what he was talking about and to go to the police if he was being extorted. Guilty people act incredibly guilty. |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 1:00 PM Author: arousing codepig main people Cracked me up the FBI used a newspaper article about the murder to deliver the extortion letter during The Bump. As if gang members get the Miami Herald to their front porch in 2016, and they still fell for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49224204) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 2:15 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault It was so bad.
Sigfredo's rants about the extortionists being 'New Yorician' or a NY Puerto Rican were comedy gold. The jury was apparently holding back laughter. Charlie calls had then in stitches too. YOU'RE MY FAVORITE JEW. |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 7:47 PM Author: shaky school toaster A lot of this case should have started long ago with better legal advice. Like, not buying tickets to Vietnam. Advising her repeatedly that phones are tapped. Advising her repeatedly not to talk in jail. I don't know how much advice was given, but it clearly didn't stick. So the counselor part is a huge flop. The entire D theory should be, she didn't plan anything or pay anything or do anything. Charlie talked to her and she was scared for Charlie after the fact. That's it. Every set of Qs should open and close with, no evidence that she planned the murder. That's it. Repeatedly bashing in the skulls. Did Donna skulk around? Sure, loved Charlie loved her grandkids blah blah blah. But "hiring a hitman" is insane Hollywood shit, this 75yo granny is not hiring hitmen. |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: arousing codepig main people Yea, it's nuts. Does throwing Charlie under the bus hurt his chance of an appeal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49225046) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 8:00 PM Author: shaky school toaster Fuck off, pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49225050) |
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Date: August 31st, 2025 1:03 AM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena these people seem too retarded and/or mentally ill to take advice, so i doubt that could have helped. if someone needs a lawyer to tell them a phone call like the post bump one is a bad idea, they are already hopeless. like you could tell they knew it was a bad idea to be talking about it on the phone but they couldn't help themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49225448) |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 8:20 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams presuming a majority, or even all of the current evidence gets in and BAM you find yourself at opening, standing at the defense podium..... (Seems kind of outside the hypo to say 'defense should have advised her not to commit murder!')
imo you have to craft this defense on the state being overzealous and motivated by the popularity of this case. You cannot credibly re-try the already convicted people. So its established fact that Tato and Tuto killed shortporch, after being hired by Charlie via Katie, to spring Wendi from her annoying ex.
Own all of that and simply distance Donna. Hard to do with the evidence, but remember at all times the chain is linked Donna - Charlie - Katie - killers.
You just need to break/obscure that first link, and you do so by constantly painting Donna as a dimwit who knew nothing of criminality, but obsessively loved her idiot son Charlie.
Charlie concocts this whole thing. Charlie keeps it a secret. Charlie tells his mom, hire Katie, do this do that. Mom does everything, slavishly, without any real understanding of what is happening.
Mom having reasonable suspicion maybe her boy was up to no good is NOT furthering a conspiracy. Its simply really immoral and bad parenting. Maybe eat some accessory after the fact charge? Anyway, Main Story #1 is Donna is an imbecile grandma, who could be surrounded by crimes without realizing.
Main Story #2 is that these cases are making the prosecutors so famous, on 20/20 and in national news, that they are riding a gravy train and now EVEN COMING AFTER GRANDMA just to maintain fame.
Of course grandma was flying to vietnam. She was, at the same time, planning her suicide. She just wanted to die, disappear, vanish from earth, etc. Her baby boy was just convicted and he HAD BEEN USING HER THE WHOLE TIME, WITHOUT HER KNOWING. She wanted death, and vietnam is the same thing.
In a sentence, Donna is victim of Charlie and the ravenous prosecutors.
Thats how you fucking defend this case. Attack Charlie, attack the prosecutors, paint Donna as insanely in love with her son -- and you have reams of evidence to support each point. Probably still lose, but its better than using "every element beyond a reasonable doubt" as your story |
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Date: August 30th, 2025 11:59 PM Author: razzmatazz sanctuary The judge isn't going to let you attack the prosecutors in front of the jury. You can do that in pretrial motions and in media releases, sure. I think the best strategy would be to say the whole conspiracy theory is bullshit and force the state to prove it all from the ground up. The prosecutors are already struggling with the abridged version they're doing in this trial, a full exposition, no leading, no counsel testifying, could break them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49225373) |
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Date: September 1st, 2025 2:59 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The kooky thing about Harvey is that he had to have known about it. He was around Donna and Charlie babbling all the time. Those two couldn't shut up if they tried. Harvey had to have known even if he wasn't involved. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49227663) |
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Date: September 1st, 2025 8:46 AM Author: shaky school toaster You have obviously never tuned out a Jewish woman who talks a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49227816) |
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Date: September 1st, 2025 11:02 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams There’s a lot of “don’t tell dad” and “dad doesn’t know”… but yeah he def knew after the fact. Prob just repressed it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49228059) |
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Date: September 1st, 2025 11:16 AM Author: arousing codepig main people They paid for the hit in cash from the business, which he was in charge of. No way he didn't know everything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49228084) |
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Date: September 1st, 2025 12:01 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Yeah also ljl at Donna on the jail call she didn't hang up being like "I don't even know why my son is in prison for life! We have to do something to get him out of there!" like lady I think you know why lmao. I think you know why you packed for Vietnam.
This is a case where these people are so far gone from reality and have been for ages. They're so entrenched in their criminal mindset that nothing is going to hit them until the sentence is read and they're hauled off.
As discussed previously ITT Wendi is the only one who seems to have any wits about her as to why the state keeps going after this horrible family.
No one thinks Harvey planned any of this but he's been living in a den of vipers for decades. It's like, you never noticed the carnage all around you? Sure, bud, sure. |
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Date: September 1st, 2025 1:00 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49228320) |
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Date: September 1st, 2025 7:26 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Harvey also had a one-way ticket to Vietnam and was at the airport with Donna, but they only arrested Donna. It would be fascinating to know what Harvey knew and when he knew it and why the prosecutors chose not to charge him. If I were the DA, and I felt like I had a case against Harvey, I would arrest him if only because it would give me more leverage to force Donna/Charlie to talk and/or accept a deal. I feel like they could have charged him with obstruction at the bare minimum. The fact that he hasn't been charged with anything even when he was at the airport with a one-way ticket to Vietnam suggests to me that there is further evidence the exculpates Harvey that hasn't been released. Or maybe they just legitimately believes that he wasn't involved and that losing his entire family is going to be punishment enough. Who knows? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49229361) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 9:56 AM Author: Coiffed Dragon Something tells me "Harvey might go to jail if you don't start talking" wouldn't exactly exactly compel Donna to start talking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230479) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 8:43 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Defense first argument for Judgment of Acquittal happening now. Standard: state failed to make prima facie case, in light most favorable to the state. Always unwinnable, but preview of closing
Their whole argument is Charlie and Wendi did this. Brutal mothering.
If Donna takes the stand this week, she will likely throw her kids under the bus, which could be tipping point to secure PC for Wendi's arrest. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 8:46 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Lmao based fat black judge, interrupting JOA argument:
"'Inferences'? You mean inferences PLUS a confession?"
lmao. Judge buys the snitch testimony.
Defensebro: "lol judge Im getting to that...."
5 min later, D-bro: "Judge the confession was only to writing the checks, after the murd--" Judge: "- we could get the court reporter to read the transcript, but go ahead counsel, lol"
5 min later, judge: "In evidence are allegations of suborning perjury and attempting to flee, your response counsel?"
D-bro: Judge um we ask for judgment of acquittal
real talk, the trial procedure requires a motion for JOA. Sometimes its best just to read the statute and sit down. "In a light most favorable to the state, the state has failed to prove a prima facie case of first degree murder", Sit Down. No need to humiliate yourself in front of judge. Make your dumb argument to jury |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 9:04 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams JOA defeated.
Sidebar now on "advice to counsel" from last week. I suspect D lawyers have shared with judge that Donna is not taking their counsel. Last week, before snitch testimony, judge put donna under oath and put her on record endorsing defense strategy on how to cross snitches.
Reading btwn lines, I think defense bros are telling judge, "our client wont listen to shit, and is insisting we do things her way." I suspect this will now come to a head with regard to defendant testifying.
These lawyers know shes cooked |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 9:27 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Seems to be. They're supposed to be preserving her appeals even if they're shit appeals. Maybe they throw themselves under the bus for looking incompetent in hopes she gets a retrial? I don't know. These are things that only come up when your case is dogshit.
It would be absolutely mind blowing if Donna testifies against Charlie and Wendi. I just can't see it. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 9:46 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams cant imagine a lawyer would allow self to be called ineffective.
Number 1, this is their highest profile case and not worth damaging their rep
Number 2, in any future a "rule 3" inquiry they would have to come to court for very long days to give testimony, all unpaid, and designed to humiliate.
they aint doing that shit
theyre actually protecting themselves from rule 3 / ineffective headaches by constantly telling the judge, "we advised her X on date Y, and she is not listening and insisting we do A, B, C. Please colloquy her on the record, so she cannot later say this wasnt her idea"
What's more -- first defense wit is a BIG deal, jury has been waiting 3 weeks to hear wtf donna could possibly offer them. She called a little old lady who says "harv's a good dentist, donna is sweet, and she stays in our Naples house and never once murdered anyone in front of us"
lmao, that's their best wit?
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 9:52 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Yeah they're done here. Absolutely cooked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230474) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:12 AM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230657) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 10:52 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Holy shit at this extremely Jewish subplot. Mr. Gunnerson went to high school with Harvey but wasn't close to him. Decades later he was eating Chinese food on Christmas in Florida and cracked his tooth on a spare rib. Realized Harvey was in town and saw him the next day and they became friends. Doesn't get more Jewy than that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230611) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 12:32 PM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks Straight out of a Philip Roth novel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230856) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 12:41 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230870) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:14 AM Author: shaky school toaster What's the name of the B-team prosecutor who's showed off her feet before. I also want to jerk off to her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230664) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:25 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams i posted those feet and was just trying to find the pic
unghhhh |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 1:44 PM Author: shaky school toaster That was you, brother? http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5116494&forum_id=2#44570617 Then this is yours. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:22 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Another extremely Jewish tell about Donna and Harvey's friend. He was in military intelligence RESERVE during the peak of the Vietnam War. So while goys were getting blown up they saved this genius Jew so he could go on to make millions in real estate jacking up rents on the goyim. Jfc. This guy is worse than any of the Adelsons. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230686) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:23 AM Author: shaky school toaster this defense data expert looks extremely BPD hgnnnngh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230689) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:38 AM Author: Garnet national security agency gas station Once a year or so we get reminded that this is in fact LAW BORT. Sincere thanks to all the SCHOLARS itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230725) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:42 AM Author: spectacular university he he (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230730) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:42 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Never met a law in my life idk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230733) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:43 AM Author: shaky school toaster Turns out a bunch of nebbish Miami-based Jews overpopulate this boart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230738) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:58 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault And here's why that's a good thing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230778) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:45 AM Author: Overrated Hissy Fit Resort holy shit can't believe i've missed all this. We've been waiting years for this trial
someone catch me up in like two paragraphs |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 11:49 AM Author: shaky school toaster It's basically Charlie's trial, but they have more of her bumbling phone calls and her attempt to flee to Vietnam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230757) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 12:07 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The defense admitted in opening that there was a conspiracy to murder Danny and Charlie did it but Donna wasn't involved. State proved a ton of involvement by Donna including motive, knowledge of everything with Charlie. She's absolutely cooked. Defense has done zero to push back on the state's case. Defense case now is essentially, she was a nice old lady and here are her well adjusted boomer friends. She's done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230798) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 10:35 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Also, Donna apparently tried to bribe some other inmates with money and drugs if they would lie and say that Katie (who had been locked up with these inmates in the past) had extorted the Adelsons. They obviously have some credibility issues, but I'm inclined to believe them, mainly because I don't think the prosecution would risk having a guilty verdict overturned to solicit false jailhouse testimony in a case that is already a slam dunk. There is plenty of evidence to convict even without this testimony. I mention it mainly because it is incredibly lulzy that she tried this in the first place. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49232365) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 12:11 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Good news: State slowly and progressively leaking evidence against Wendi in this trial, which theyve already won.
Bad news: Wendi's been gaining weight and getting facial injections
At this rate, her 2027 trial will be disgusting |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 12:13 PM Author: Overrated Hissy Fit Resort tyvm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230817) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 12:18 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Harsh but fair (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230831) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 1:38 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena She’s going to lose her mind at trial. Can’t wait to see that neurotic, unhinged bitch have a nervous breakdown. It will be the best trial yet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49231051) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 2:26 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234030) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 6:18 PM Author: talented hilarious whorehouse I think you underestimate how dark her dark triad (both in terms of her personality and her vag) really is. This bitch has barely blinked through two trials of her brother and mom getting life for the plot the three (probably) of them cooked up to kill her ex husband. She won’t freak out until the foreman says guilty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234704) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:50 PM Author: beady-eyed slate candlestick maker native state playing the long game, taking pretty privilege shield out of play by dragging things out until long after she’s hit the wall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49233734) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:09 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49233804) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 1:12 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Forensic expert for the defense testifies she bills 300 an hour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230966) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 1:18 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Defense calls another geriatric Jew from Donna's gourmet club (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49230982) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 1:47 PM Author: shaky school toaster Holy shit so Uncle Phil just caught one of the D witnesses sitting in the courtroom listening to the testimony of another D witness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49231075) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 2:01 PM Author: disturbing bearded institution why is this important? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49231116) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 4:50 PM Author: Haunting diverse station Whole trial invalid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49231521) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 4:58 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Deosnt impact trial as much as it does the unfortunate witness, via florida's barbaric Rule of Castration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49231539) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 10:32 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Rule of Castration? Is that the formal legal term for it? Explain to a non-lawmo why this matters. If I remember correctly, the witness in question was some realtor who said that he once showed some house to the Adelsons back in 2011. I'm not sure how this testimony is relevant in the first place, much less why it would matter if this realtor bro heard some testimony about the jailhouse snitches (which was totally unrelated to his testimony). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49232356) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 9:02 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams So first the court will conduct what most judges now call a Richard Hearing. This is a euphemism for "Dick Hearing" of course, and the legal issue at play is whether the witness demonstrates any symptoms of genital arousal or disturbance when confronted with the testimony he should not have heard.
Problem is, the standard in FL for this hearing is mere preponderance of the evidence. Which means if any court personnel even think they see the guy's penis move, its likely proven that he is aroused or disturbed or in some way excited by what he has heard.
Which means his subsequent testimony was tainted, and the curative is castration of the witness. Florida relies on this ridiculous antebellum jurisprudence on the connection between "testimony" and "testes", etc.
Its honestly something the feds need to address |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 9:39 AM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49233071) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 10:35 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams lol they broke the rule of sequestration TWICE
defense in shambles
im honestly re-thinking whether they are now fishing for appellate topics. sequestration is a basic thing, and the first one apparently was an accident. the second one was KNOWN to be happening by the defense, and exclusion is almost a given.
Now the guilty verdict will likely have an excluded expert wit. Big deal for appeal. Judge should be MAF |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 10:55 AM Author: shaky school toaster Absolutely surreal shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49233262) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 11:10 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams lol i checked out and checked back in. judge didnt exclude her.
probably smart. Verdict is already a given, so minimize app issues.
Defense will now have to find a way to mistry this. Should get a wit to blurt something in front of jury. I heard that Robert Adelson's depo included some racial slur that Donna would use. My bet is "nigger", maybe "goy" lol.
Defense needs to get the jury to hear this somehow, then move for mistrial |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 12:37 PM Author: shaky school toaster Yeah I get it, the judge knows you create problem on appeal if you are excluding D witnesses, Georgia is pissed as fuck but seems resigned to it, he's making the D counsel grovel that the testimony doesn't overlap etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49233682) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:41 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Not a big fan of Georgia Cappelman, and never a fan of watching ASAs try to cross witnesses, but she just did v. well crossing the family lawyer.
Fam lawyer expert was brought in to argue, basically, Wendi's divorce was nbd, not at all contentious, and therefore no reason to trigger a murder.
Georgia called her on being a dumb fucking lawyer who has no idea how normies are affected by divorce and custody issues. "Ever have a client suicide because of divorce proceedings?" Georgia asked, which I HIGHLY SUSPECT she just adlibbed.
"One crazy fucking muslim," the lawyer had to admit. "But thats cause he's from fucking Iran or some such hell hole where divorce is shameful."
Couldnt have been scripted better for the cross exam.
PS we are now seeing Wendi's defense: The divorce was OVER and SETTLED, and by the way was nbd, hardly contentious. Here's a train of female divorce lawyers to explain that, in their professional opinion, this divorce was nothingburger (except when shortporch mansplained things), and Wendi was now a strong and content divorcee with a big happy clit and black sista friends, with no reason at all to kill anyone over a divorce that happened, like, a million years ago, ancient history, hahaha |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 2:11 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault This isn't just Wendi's defense it's Donna's too. They haven't hit back on any of the murder for hire evidence and Donna's connection to Charlie. But they're hoping that the jury wasn't paying attention at all and last week was a long time ago.
The pitch is that the divorce was nbd, no one was rattled by it, the state has been hyperbolic about Donna's emails. Everyone gets emotional around divorce but it wasn't that big a deal. The whole thing was settled and there was no motive for Donna. Charlie is crazy and we have no idea why he set this up. Anyways, gotta go.
I think at this point the defense is as close as they can get to acquittal. I wouldn't even put Donna on which would backfire. Just hope and pray at this point. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 6:21 PM Author: talented hilarious whorehouse lol they would need to orchestrate a full Freddy Riedenschneider like they somehow get Danny’s dad attacking Donna in the courtroom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234710) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 9:19 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven 180. I'm glad that I am legally ignorant so that you could poast this masterpiece. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235101) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2025 10:32 PM Author: Ocher dog poop den MY MASTERS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49232358) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 9:28 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault This is a pretty good witness for the defense. Finally someone serious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49233055) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:48 PM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks i thought wendi got immunity? why is everyone talking about her getting charged after this old bitch goes down?
i cannot believe a poaster got murdered. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 1:54 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay she has immunity in that they cant use her testimony against her, not that she cant be charged at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49233938) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 2:31 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234043) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 2:37 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234053) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 4:08 PM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks i haven't followed this case that closely, but why would she agree to testify then? what was the upside for her? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234360) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 9:22 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven That's a great question. Probably to make herself look less guilty and/or to help negotiate a favorable deal if the state does come after her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235119) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:07 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay adelson deciding whether to testify or not. bizarre, she didnt have a yes or no ready and asked for more time to consider. judge blunts gave her five minutes. never seen that before. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234126) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:09 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape I really want to see her testify. She sounds exactly like the stereotype and Georgia will crucify her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234131) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:12 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay she declined to testify, smart choice, no chance she comes off well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234136) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:14 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234140) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:17 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape LJL they were trying to get their extra time by not resting on the record and potentially calling donna tomorrow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234146) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:17 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay cr, lmao at these bush league tactics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234148) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:26 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault 'pound on the table' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234169) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:24 PM Author: Garnet national security agency gas station Civil lawyer here but I really don't understand the conventional wisdom that crimdefs shouldn't testify. How is a jury not going to draw the worst possible inferences. Ljl at "jury instructions."
I served on a criminal jury once. We convicted, but if D didn't testify we would have convicted much faster and harder. |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:28 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay im not sure i buy the "conventional wisdom", but some bossy, arrogant, abrasive elderly jewish woman is not going to do herself any favors on the stand in talahassee imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234179) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:34 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234196) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:34 PM Author: Garnet national security agency gas station When I did jury duty our D wasn't particularly likeable but imo there is a lot of value in hearing someone say "I didn't do it." Seems to me that by refusing to say that, D is giving up significant chance at raising reasonable doubt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234200) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 6:44 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape hearing her say "I didn't do it" would be icing on the cake. We all know that she didn't do it. in fact, the state conceded that very point during its opening statement.
in this case, however, "it" refers to more than just pulling the trigger and includes any act done by or procured by donna that caused the death of markel.
honestly, if she were more likable, putting her on the stand to look the jury in the eye and testify that while she hated markel and wished he were dead, she never wished that anyone in her family would cause his death and that those responsible for the heinous act have been tried, convicted, and sentenced. in fact, if she were a more likable jew (I know, null set), leaning into the whole miami jew thing and testifying that her family's kike business was an orthodontics practice and as an endontist charlie printed money. He wouldn't have needed to borrow $15k or whatever the beaners charged.
She gets into trouble with Katie, though. Wasn't donna the practice's office manager? Essentially, she laundered the hit money through the practice by hiring Katie for a do-nothing position or whatever presumably to deduct the cost from their taxes (kikes will never change). |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:29 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape "the worst possible inferences" often aren't known by criminal defense attorneys until their client is cross-examined by a competent prosecutor.
in other words, whatever the jury takes from her not testifying (however horrible) is still far better than what the jury will think after she testifies |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:31 PM Author: Haunting diverse station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234188) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:36 PM Author: Garnet national security agency gas station How much worse does it get than "if she was innocent she would have testified, therefore guilty"? Are they worried about breaking down and confessing on the stand? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234206) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:42 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape you're banking on at least one of twelve people having the ability to pretend they didn't eat breakfast & adhere to the court's instruction regarding her silence vs all twelve hearing her nasally miami jew voice explain how she tried to do a charge back on the hit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234227) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:43 PM Author: Garnet national security agency gas station Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234232) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:24 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234165) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:34 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape defense attorney asking judge not to italicize periods in the jury instructions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234198) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:42 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234228) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:39 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape oh come the fuck on re: the justifiable homicide jury instructions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234217) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:53 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Explain? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234276) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 6:33 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape Judge asked if that instruction could be omitted and defense counsel was like "one second judge, we need to discuss" and the judge was like come the fuck on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234739) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 3:59 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Its over. Long morning of JIs that the jury tunes out. State closing will be endless, interrupted only by an endless defense closing, then state's "rebuttal" also endless. All of tomorrow and perhaps then some.
Delib by Friday. Verdict friday before dinner. Jurors aint coming back Monday.
Guilty.
This whole trial has just felt like foreplay. Unsatisfying.
When Wendi is arrested, I fully expect Jeepmo to be called to the stand. XO was literally creating relevant and probative evidence in those days. A decent defense lawyer would get Jeepmos posting history in as evidence and wendi actually has a good one |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 4:02 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234316) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 4:20 PM Author: disturbing bearded institution she walks. State did terrible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234419) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 4:23 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Robert carried the day.
"Mom, wow, the FBI contacted me."
"Do NOT talk to them."
"But I already did."
"That's fine. YOU don't know anything."
And then... "My conscious was bothering me, so I contacted them again."
Finally, to: "And how did your mother respond?"
"I don't know. I never heard from her again."
*Fatality* |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 6:10 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234681) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 6:46 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234776) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 7:21 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena Really sad we won’t get a Charlie/Donna phone call about this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234853) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 5:02 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike remind me of who Jeepmo is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234534) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 5:26 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams matched with wendi on tinder or something. chatted her up, posted evidence. someone on the board sent it to wendi and jeepmo retired (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234587) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 5:27 PM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks i forgot about that last part lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234591) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 6:11 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault RIP jeepmo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234686) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 7:01 PM Author: shaky school toaster He didn't poast evidence he poasted banter with Wendi that was oddly specific to her but she never implicated herself in anything, just in that hot BPD JAP pussy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234820) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 10:08 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235212) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 6:29 PM Author: talented hilarious whorehouse Would be hilarious (uh in one sense) if Wendi’s trial is how all the IP addresses of XO are made public in a massive Lolsuit 2.0 event, and she takes down dozens (hundreds?) of legal careers with her, or better yet she walks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234728) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 8:05 PM Author: Ocher dog poop den these ppl say "dearing" for "during". any1 else notice? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234944) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 10:29 PM Author: Ocher dog poop den https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odV1h3sG5AY 6:12.54 but the girl prosecutor says it too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235248) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 8:12 PM Author: arousing codepig main people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFZs4HCazuc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49234957) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 9:16 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235091) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 9:26 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235138) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 9:38 PM Author: big-titted rough-skinned principal's office persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235169) |
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Date: September 3rd, 2025 11:50 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night why is any of this "evidence" relevant? seems like a side show (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235414) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:01 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault The defense is trying to disprove motive. Wendi and Danny got along. The divorce wasn't contentious. The divorce actually went fine. The custody arrangement wasn't that big a deal. Yes they said some mean things to each other in court motions. Big whoop. They were getting along fine. No reason for Donna to have a bug up her ass about it. The state cherry picked emails but that's not the whole story. There were ups and downs but Wendi and Donna were mostly chill and not freaking out all the time.
You see, you convince a jury that the divorce and relocation wasn't this hotly contested thing, it takes a lot of pressure off Donna. OK so she was pretty chill, no issue with Danny, no reason to do this. Then they can say well we'll never know why Charlie did this. But he acted alone.
This is actually not a bad defense. They seem to have discredited the jail house snitch. Assume you take a very rosy view of Donna Adelson that she's just this nice old grandma, that she was never irate about relocation. That she never confessed to anything or tried to flee to Vietnam, you're left with an outside chance of acquittal so long as the jury doesn't buy the states evidence. Conversely if the jurors believe Donna was turbo mad about relocating the motive is glaring and Donna is cooked. This witness is so in the tank for the Adelsons you wonder if she's on the payroll. "Yeah this custody battle wasn't contentious at all. By all accounts most people believe my client hired two hoodlums to bump off my son in law so I could take the kids to South Florida. But yeah, very routine proceedings. Very chill, mostly no one cared." ljl hopefully this backfires and the jury is mad as hell.
It's still 70/30 convict imo but it felt like 90/10 when the state rested. The defense clawed back a few points and left Donna with a couple outs. I think though that if the jury really look at the state's evidence, she's still completely cooked. It's still 'convict' but maybe we get totally surprised by the jury. They have to put on their thinking caps and look at the overwhelming evidence against her. Will they? Time will tell. |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:04 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night ok i get the defense. but why is it proper expert testimony to have some fat boomer bitch lawyer explain that people say mean things in pleadings that they are nbd? that just seems like lay opinion not expertise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235428) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:16 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She's saying she did two thousand of these cases, 100 on each side. Expert in divorce. Hopefully the jury is really offended by this witness. Yeah, I've done thousands of these things. Very routine, nothing to see here. Yes it ended with opposing counsel's client dead in his driveway after a murder for hire plot. OK but otherwise it was a mostly peaceful custody agreement. Really hope the jury is enraged by this and isn't buying it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235437) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 6:23 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night Seems like improper expert testimony. each side can argue to the jury and you don’t need an expert for this crap. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235599) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 7:06 AM Author: shaky school toaster I need my penis inside Georgia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235635) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 5:27 AM Author: razzmatazz sanctuary I think she has a winning appellate argument with how the judge gave her just five minutes to decide whether to testify, and then threatened her and her lawyers with contempt when she waffled. What was the judge in such a hurry for? Was he late for his reservation at McDonald's? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235548) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 6:25 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night Seems like you don’t know the difference between a winning appellate argument and a non-frivolous one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235603) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 7:33 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams It was a rare misstep by Everett. It was like 3:30PM, he could have ended early and allowed first degree murder defendant to announce her decision at 8am.
I get that she has been in custody two years, and that the trial has lasted weeks, and that she had a long weekend, plus an early recess earlier in the week, all to prepare to make this decision.
And that every other criminal defendant so situated, must have their decision ready by the defenses last witness.
But whatever, break for the day.
Having said that, it is no app issue. |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 7:35 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235651) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 7:33 AM Author: shaky school toaster (x0 2025 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235648) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 7:35 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235652) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:11 AM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay (harvey adelson tp) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236075) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:18 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236095) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:39 AM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236151) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:55 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236196) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 10:18 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Location Laser Beams Sarah Dugan slips off shoes for closing, rests her feet on the jury rail, bites bottom lip and slides hand under skirt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49235969) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:19 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault We need these two to come out as gay after the trial and leave their husbands declare they're in love with each other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236097) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:40 AM Author: shaky school toaster XO Georgia methodical close 1800000000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236157) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:42 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault It's a bloodbath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236169) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:43 AM Author: shaky school toaster She's wearing her Tiger Woods red victory outfit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236174) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:46 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Missing the Nike hat but otherwise cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236180) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:19 PM Author: big-titted rough-skinned principal's office persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236238) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:46 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Donna's dramatic facial reactions to Georgia's closing. She's acting like this is totally unfair to her. I think this would really make her unlikable to the jury. She's so guilty and criminally insane. No remorse for Danny, but this is all unfair what they're doing to me. Sickening defendant. Pure evil. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236178) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 11:55 AM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night why is she wearing headphones this whole trial? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236197) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:19 PM Author: big-titted rough-skinned principal's office persian Hoping to make herself seem like a feeble old woman incapable of conspiring to commit murder. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236237) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:23 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night its some hearing device? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236246) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: big-titted rough-skinned principal's office persian Yes, it’s supposedly to help with hearing what’s going on in the courtroom. A lot of older criminal defendants opt to wear them. I’ve always assumed it was to make them appear more pitiful/sympathetic but not a crimlawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236260) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:24 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault She tried to take them off at one point and Judge Everett admonished her for not wearing them. Apparently they argued too well that they were needed for her to understand the testimony. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236248) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:21 PM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks Narcissists (read: Jews) often do things like this that they think will endear them to others but just backfires. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236243) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 12:22 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236244) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 1:32 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236390) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 2:40 PM Author: beady-eyed slate candlestick maker native lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236496) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 1:52 PM Author: shaky school toaster What an absolute shit opening for closing arg from Ds. It opens without a theme or a message, but a defensive complaint, "Prosecution said we were mean to Dan Markel, but we were nice to him." What a fucking nightmare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236427) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 1:53 PM Author: big-titted rough-skinned principal's office persian This is awful. Hope it stays this bad, this hag deserves to rot in prison. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236428) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 2:06 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay she called him a fucker and a religious zealot. so she's innocent! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236451) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 2:31 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape Donna even baked Danny banana bread with no nuts and chocolate chips, the kind he likes! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236482) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 2:08 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay "my client is an annoying bitch who won't shut up. and that's why you must find her not guilty" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236453) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 2:15 PM Author: big-titted rough-skinned principal's office persian Lmao that seems to be the only coherent theme I can pull from this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236464) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 2:37 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236491) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 5:17 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236902) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 3:10 PM Author: Cerebral Famous Landscape Painting Queen Of The Night are there any LIOs - is it just m1? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236553) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 3:14 PM Author: Jade Dashing Goal In Life Ape All category 1 LIOs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49236567) |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 4:35 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Defense closing: Charlie and Wendi did it
Georgia's rebuttal: throws up her hands, yall aren't stupid enough to believe the defense lol
Jury's deliberating now |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 7:49 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven GUILTY!!!
Check out Donna's meltdown when the verdict is announced. I'm trying to share a link, but it doesn't look like there is a way to link to a specific time point during a live stream. I'll poast when the live stream finishes. |
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Date: September 4th, 2025 8:39 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Link to Donna's meltdown:
https://www.youtube.com/live/v2sstvAsp-s?si=ROKDwluLtSSxY4m7&t=332
Incredibly satisfying to watch. Hopefully we get to see a BPD meltdown from Wendi when her verdict is announced some time soon. |
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Date: September 5th, 2025 11:22 AM Author: disturbing bearded institution Wendi is innocent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49238560) |
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Date: September 5th, 2025 11:30 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Sup Wendi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49238587) |
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Date: September 5th, 2025 11:32 AM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49238595) |
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Date: September 6th, 2025 3:20 PM Author: slap-happy ticket booth tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49241328) |
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Date: September 6th, 2025 7:47 AM Author: domesticated stain wagecucks i recall HAtp pointing out how badly the defense did. holy christ, i am watching robert adelson's testimony and the defense didn't object to virtually any of the leading questions, and the questions were all leading.
"would you say your mom is, like, an angry person?"
"yes"
"does she take a whole lot of interest in her grandkids, or does she kinda not care?"
"oh, she takes a lot of interest"
wtf. i've heard a couple hearsay objections (which were sustained), but this is awful lawyering by the defense.
and LMFAO at your own son testifying against you. donna must be a turbocunt. |
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Date: September 6th, 2025 10:45 AM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault They should have objected constantly. I have never been to law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49240746) |
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Date: September 6th, 2025 2:20 PM Author: Charismatic Heaven Did you watch the opening statements? Holy fucking shit. The defense's opening statement was like 20 minutes long, most of which was spent talking about how sad it was that Dan Markel got murdered. It's like, is this an opening for the prosecution?
The other egregious error, IMHO, is that the defense made absolutely zero attempt to refute any of the "bump" conversations. Granted, there was only so much that they could do, but you could at least ask a few questions to muddy the waters a bit:
"After playing eight hours of recorded conversations, isn't it true that there is not a single mention of Dan Markel, much less a discussion of a murder for hire plot? And isn't it true there isn't a single conversation where my client talks about paying Katie for the murder? And isn't it true that Charlie Adelson clearly stated that Katie worked on weekends, so his mother would not have seen her in the office?" All it takes is for one juror to think, "Holy shit. After making me listen to recorded calls all day, there is no smoking gun on here. Maybe the prosecution is blowing smoke." Instead they made basically zero effort to refute any of it either during cross examination or closing statements. |
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Date: September 6th, 2025 2:42 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49241213) |
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Date: September 6th, 2025 3:12 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena Defense team seemed depressed they had such a hopeless case and wanted to get it over with as quickly as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49241305) |
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Date: September 19th, 2025 2:45 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena Donna DEMANDS a new trial because of juror misconduct (posting on tiktok)
https://apnews.com/article/law-professor-killing-florida-donna-adelson-trial-c3d95885a945be09cfa73d24a1071fbc |
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Date: September 19th, 2025 2:50 PM Author: big-titted rough-skinned principal's office persian Her attorney filed the motion from her “office” (a funeral home her family owns). Hopefully the court will treat this application with the level of respect it deserves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49284520) |
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Date: September 19th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49284603) |
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Date: September 19th, 2025 3:31 PM Author: Garnet national security agency gas station “Where is the evidence Mrs. Adelson agreed; conspired; combined; or confederated with anyone else that Mr. Markel be killed? There is none,” the attorneys wrote.
Joshua Zelman and Jackie Fulford should be disbarred for this abuse of semicolons |
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Date: September 19th, 2025 3:40 PM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena I don’t understand why she had to hire these retards given how much money they have (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49284627) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 1:14 PM Author: shaky school toaster sentencing today, brothers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346104) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 2:56 PM Author: shaky school toaster here we go https://www.youtube.com/live/eY-HLrKfwX0 |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:22 PM Author: shaky school toaster Bunch of terrible tripe rn from Donna (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346531) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: shaky school toaster It is unreal, this is fucking malpractice from the attorneys lol. It's just that Donna wants some of these Boomer clowns to relitigate the substance, and Uncle Phil is annoyed lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346562) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:44 PM Author: shaky school toaster Big Harvey taking the stand. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346588) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:46 PM Author: shaky school toaster lmao he called uncle Phil a "biased judge" to his face, and the judge is not happy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346600) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:54 PM Author: Citrine temple What a retard. Did he think that would be effective? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346618) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 3:55 PM Author: shaky school toaster Jewish Boomers gonna Jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346622) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:00 PM Author: shaky school toaster LMAO Donna is relitigating the merits, the judge interrupted her to let her know he's gonna slam the door on her if she kept talking because she had no lack of remorse, and she is still talking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346636) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:04 PM Author: yapping tattoo Not a crimmo but any statements my clients or the family make to a court (and especially my trial judge) are reviewed and discussed at length.
Her attorneys have to be blindsided by this or are complete idiots, right? |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:05 PM Author: shaky school toaster I assume her attorneys are getting Jewed around by a bossy client, they know they're fucked and they just need to succumb to her demands so they don't face malpractice charges later, they can give advice but they gotta let the client do what the client wants to do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346651) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:09 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Wonder how much they're getting paid to argue that their client's 20 minute speech professing innocence and relitigating the entire case on the merits goes to 'character' and not facts. But also arguing that lack of remorse cannot be taken into account under sentencing. Wow! What a JOB. What a PROFESSION! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346667) |
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Date: October 15th, 2025 1:45 AM Author: Fantasy-prone brass striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49349962) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:04 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay omg "there are two crimes here, the murder of danny and the conviction of me" this delusional bitch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346648) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:05 PM Author: stubborn kitchen preventive strike i will be filing an appeal! lol. |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:07 PM Author: Comical hideous stock car lay you'll be hearing from my lawyer! i'll sue! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346662) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:08 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Judge Fudge taking a ten minute break to find a SCOTUS cite saying that the judge can take into account a defendant's lack of remorse with regards to sentencing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346664) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:20 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Defendant was a RELATIVELY MINOR PARTICIPANT IN THE CRIMINAL CONDUCT tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346690) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:39 PM Author: shaky school toaster lawyer is like the fucking teacher in charlie brown now good fucking night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346749) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:41 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault RATE the level of CULPABILITY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346751) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:42 PM Author: shaky school toaster She's just fucking exhausting everything in the EXTREMELY UNLIKELY EVENT they get the murder charge thrown out. And for what? She's gonna be dead in 8 years, so who fucking cares if it's 10 or 30 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346755) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:57 PM Author: dull soul-stirring forum double fault Imagine being some mentally disabled goyim like the guy in the Texas shaken baby case who has been on death row for over 25 years in a case that can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt but Donna Adelson is getting the Jewiest defense in legal history. Life is so unfair! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346811) |
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Date: October 13th, 2025 4:46 PM Author: Citrine temple I love when other lawyers remind me that I'm pretty good at my job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5764993&forum_id=2Vannesa#49346770) |