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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
180
laughsome stain address
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
much more than that
Naked Comical Public Bath
  11/09/25
anal rape?
idiotic dead electric furnace fat ankles
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
dashing corn cake spot
  11/09/25
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hyperventilating bawdyhouse
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
laughsome stain address
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Trip Kitty Cat
  11/09/25
...
Navy fighting quadroon hunting ground
  11/09/25
why who is he?
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
metal gay wizard dopamine
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laughsome stain address
  11/09/25
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Galvanic khaki stead sneaky criminal
  11/09/25
cr he blows
cyan stirring library hominid
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Concupiscible Mad Cow Disease Puppy
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Concupiscible Mad Cow Disease Puppy
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
crimson state immigrant
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
narrow-minded vivacious dog poop
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
Plum sweet tailpipe
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
Plum sweet tailpipe
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
autistic church gunner
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
contagious sexy stag film
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
Drunken puce crotch lettuce
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Wild space
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
narrow-minded vivacious dog poop
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
autistic church gunner
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
cyan stirring library hominid
  11/09/25
*destroying
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Naked Comical Public Bath
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
cyan stirring library hominid
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Naked Comical Public Bath
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
talented fortuitous meteor new version
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Exhilarant Ceo
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
Jews maf
autistic church gunner
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
Plum sweet tailpipe
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
Plum sweet tailpipe
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
cyan stirring library hominid
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
Drunken puce crotch lettuce
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Exhilarant Ceo
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Pontificating hell juggernaut
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Pontificating hell juggernaut
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
Drunken puce crotch lettuce
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/09/25
lol
Pontificating hell juggernaut
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
180 Territorial Theatre Liquid Oxygen
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autistic church gunner
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
pearly provocative knife regret
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
narrow-minded vivacious dog poop
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
cyan stirring library hominid
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Wild space
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Exhilarant Ceo
  11/09/25
...
hyperventilating bawdyhouse
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
Cracking Lay Turdskin
  11/10/25
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autistic church gunner
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Blathering coiffed blood rage
  11/10/25
lol
Razzmatazz tan set sandwich
  11/10/25
Lmao
talented fortuitous meteor new version
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: laughsome stain address

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Naked Comical Public Bath

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: idiotic dead electric furnace fat ankles

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: dashing corn cake spot

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: hyperventilating bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: laughsome stain address

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Trip Kitty Cat

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: Navy fighting quadroon hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: metal gay wizard dopamine

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: laughsome stain address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Galvanic khaki stead sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: cyan stirring library hominid

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Concupiscible Mad Cow Disease Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415195)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Concupiscible Mad Cow Disease Puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: crimson state immigrant

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: narrow-minded vivacious dog poop

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Plum sweet tailpipe

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Plum sweet tailpipe

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: autistic church gunner

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: contagious sexy stag film

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Drunken puce crotch lettuce

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Wild space

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: narrow-minded vivacious dog poop

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: autistic church gunner

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: cyan stirring library hominid

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Naked Comical Public Bath

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: cyan stirring library hominid

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Naked Comical Public Bath

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: talented fortuitous meteor new version

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Exhilarant Ceo

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: autistic church gunner

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Plum sweet tailpipe

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: Plum sweet tailpipe

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: cyan stirring library hominid

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Drunken puce crotch lettuce

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Exhilarant Ceo

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Pontificating hell juggernaut

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Pontificating hell juggernaut

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Drunken puce crotch lettuce

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Pontificating hell juggernaut

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: 180 Territorial Theatre Liquid Oxygen

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: autistic church gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: pearly provocative knife regret

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: narrow-minded vivacious dog poop

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: cyan stirring library hominid

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Wild space

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Exhilarant Ceo

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: hyperventilating bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: Cracking Lay Turdskin

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: autistic church gunner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Blathering coiffed blood rage

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Razzmatazz tan set sandwich

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: talented fortuitous meteor new version

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416774)