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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
180
swashbuckling box office boistinker
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
much more than that
hairraiser violent public bath
  11/09/25
anal rape?
underhanded dun step-uncle's house
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
provocative theater stage
  11/09/25
...
Impressive ladyboy alpha
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
swashbuckling box office boistinker
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
big french chef institution
  11/09/25
...
chrome lascivious piazza
  11/09/25
why who is he?
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
Alcoholic tanning salon wrinkle
  11/09/25
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swashbuckling box office boistinker
  11/09/25
...
shaky rehab mediation
  11/09/25
cr he blows
Exciting degenerate
  11/09/25
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Twinkling abode
  11/09/25
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Twinkling abode
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
self-centered sex offender
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
stirring mentally impaired base cumskin
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
vengeful startling gay wizard
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
vengeful startling gay wizard
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
Blue Digit Ratio Theatre
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
histrionic shitlib
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
greedy yellow resort marketing idea
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
Disgusting Gas Station Blood Rage
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
stirring mentally impaired base cumskin
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
Blue Digit Ratio Theatre
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
Exciting degenerate
  11/09/25
*destroying
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
hairraiser violent public bath
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
Exciting degenerate
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
hairraiser violent public bath
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
supple flirting trailer park kitty cat
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
Stimulating Office Stain
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
Jews maf
Blue Digit Ratio Theatre
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
vengeful startling gay wizard
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
vengeful startling gay wizard
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
Exciting degenerate
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
greedy yellow resort marketing idea
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
Stimulating Office Stain
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
gold stag film
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
gold stag film
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
greedy yellow resort marketing idea
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/09/25
lol
gold stag film
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
emerald parlour
  11/09/25
...
Blue Digit Ratio Theatre
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
vigorous carmine main people bawdyhouse
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
stirring mentally impaired base cumskin
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
Exciting degenerate
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
Disgusting Gas Station Blood Rage
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
Stimulating Office Stain
  11/09/25
...
Impressive ladyboy alpha
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
odious primrose university circlehead
  11/10/25
...
Blue Digit Ratio Theatre
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Sooty dashing indirect expression senate
  11/10/25
lol
Bateful lodge philosopher-king
  11/10/25
Lmao
supple flirting trailer park kitty cat
  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: swashbuckling box office boistinker

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: hairraiser violent public bath

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: underhanded dun step-uncle's house

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: provocative theater stage

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Impressive ladyboy alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: swashbuckling box office boistinker

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: big french chef institution

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: chrome lascivious piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Alcoholic tanning salon wrinkle

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: swashbuckling box office boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: shaky rehab mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Exciting degenerate

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Twinkling abode



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: Twinkling abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: self-centered sex offender

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: stirring mentally impaired base cumskin

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: vengeful startling gay wizard

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: vengeful startling gay wizard

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: Blue Digit Ratio Theatre

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: histrionic shitlib

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: greedy yellow resort marketing idea

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: Disgusting Gas Station Blood Rage

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: stirring mentally impaired base cumskin

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: Blue Digit Ratio Theatre

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Exciting degenerate

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: hairraiser violent public bath

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: Exciting degenerate

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: hairraiser violent public bath

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: supple flirting trailer park kitty cat

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: Stimulating Office Stain

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: Blue Digit Ratio Theatre

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: vengeful startling gay wizard

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: vengeful startling gay wizard

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: Exciting degenerate

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: greedy yellow resort marketing idea

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: Stimulating Office Stain

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: gold stag film

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: gold stag film

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: greedy yellow resort marketing idea

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: gold stag film

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: emerald parlour

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: Blue Digit Ratio Theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: vigorous carmine main people bawdyhouse

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: stirring mentally impaired base cumskin

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: Exciting degenerate

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: Disgusting Gas Station Blood Rage

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: Stimulating Office Stain

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: Impressive ladyboy alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: odious primrose university circlehead

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: Blue Digit Ratio Theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Sooty dashing indirect expression senate

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: Bateful lodge philosopher-king

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: supple flirting trailer park kitty cat

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416774)