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Kiev doesn't even have running water

lol slavshits https://x.com/lesiavasylenko/status/197654796...
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/10/25
https://x.com/dana916/status/1976954730904527124
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/11/25
three years of one sort of Ukrainian being fed into a meat g...
shaky brethren senate
  10/11/25
Yeah, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the dudes chilling ...
rambunctious telephone
  10/11/25
what are these entitled assholes even protesting? "o...
shaky brethren senate
  10/11/25
cr
fragrant massive box office
  10/11/25
I'm sure that, unlike the previous 100 times there have been...
rambunctious telephone
  10/11/25
I guess I'm not going there for my mail-order ride. Moscow i...
Scarlet milk dingle berry
  10/11/25
https://www.facebook.com/groups/333082209433598/posts/779315...
appetizing violet wagecucks
  10/11/25
Would assume that Moscow has very redundant energy sources.
rambunctious telephone
  10/11/25
https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1978153576611328417
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/14/25
https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1978487784441782291
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/15/25
still no electricity
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/22/25
Still? They get bombed regularly. Things are getting worse...
sapphire dashing station
  10/22/25
How's the Kursk invasion going?
Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night
  10/22/25
Things are working great now https://x.com/RWApodcast/statu...
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/22/25
Starting tomrrow? What are they expecting Russia to do overn...
Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night
  10/22/25
what's crazy is that in WW2 the Soviet army was already appr...
provocative cruise ship goyim
  10/22/25
wow, that's fascinating
Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night
  10/22/25
I’m sure now the Ukrainians are finished
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/22/25
How's the Kursk invasion going?
Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night
  10/22/25
ETA on Russia collapsing?
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/22/25
doesn’t matter when, they can’t win this war and...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/22/25
Ok, elaborate on this one. So you were saying that Putin su...
sapphire dashing station
  10/22/25
you believe in the whole russian fairy tale so piss off, not...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/22/25
You haven't even explained this once! This is new which is ...
sapphire dashing station
  10/22/25
I have you tard, and I even remember your stupid response ...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/22/25
To post-Putin Russia? Are you sure that was me?
sapphire dashing station
  10/22/25
he's schizo
Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night
  10/22/25
Anyone?
Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night
  10/22/25
https://x.com/CheburekiMan/status/1982219390092456389 No ...
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/26/25
the slow roll on this really shows what a bureaucrat Putin r...
shaky brethren senate
  10/26/25
He appears to be winning the media game all over the world w...
appetizing violet wagecucks
  10/26/25
what’s russia’s endgame here? can any russiacuck...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/26/25
Go back to Mexico
appetizing violet wagecucks
  10/26/25
"anyone? cons?"
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/26/25
Yes. Destroy critical infrastructure until life in Ukraine ...
sapphire dashing station
  10/26/25
if you were more human you might see the very flawed logic y...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/27/25
You asked a question, I answered it and you immediately swit...
sapphire dashing station
  10/27/25
I attacked your lack of logical thinking first the ad hom...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/27/25
Attacking logical thinking implies that you identified a fla...
sapphire dashing station
  10/27/25
of course I did, you’re just too much of a russiacuck ...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/27/25
Typical dumbass response. You don't even understand wtf an ...
sapphire dashing station
  10/27/25
says the soulless russian Jew
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/27/25
Perfect example.
sapphire dashing station
  10/27/25
lights out in Moscow! lol Russiacucks https://x.com/MyLo...
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/27/25
this will help them take Donbas, surely
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/27/25
Donbass is almost done. This is to take the rest.
sapphire dashing station
  10/27/25
no, it will take years to take the rest of Donbas. and that ...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/27/25
Nah, it really won't. After the current battles are wrapped...
sapphire dashing station
  10/27/25
lol, fucking couch general dork Moscow is having to defen...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/27/25
Correct, because their ability to fruitlessly chuck drones a...
sapphire dashing station
  10/27/25
yes, russia having to dedicate hundreds of scarce air defens...
Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit
  10/27/25
what does the air defense situation look like for Ukraine?
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  10/27/25
You act as if the A/D threat to Moscow is somehow new. As s...
sapphire dashing station
  10/27/25
oh no, that sucks https://x.com/ripplebrain/status/19872200...
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  11/08/25
Russiacucks, your response? https://x.com/maria_avdv/status...
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  11/21/25
? https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1993113064166580345
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  11/24/25
Russiacucks? Your response? https://x.com/squatsons/stat...
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  12/06/25
https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/2004730211901100456
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  12/27/25
lol no power in Kiev and the grocery stores have bare shelve...
Know-it-all irradiated rehab
  01/14/26
Yeah total victory coming any day now
Frum Gunner
  01/14/26
https://x.com/AMK_Mapping_/status/2018489844771782713
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  02/02/26


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Date: October 10th, 2025 11:27 AM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

lol slavshits

https://x.com/lesiavasylenko/status/1976547964895261100

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49339324)



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Date: October 11th, 2025 9:51 AM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

https://x.com/dana916/status/1976954730904527124

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49341608)



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Date: October 11th, 2025 11:36 AM
Author: shaky brethren senate

three years of one sort of Ukrainian being fed into a meat grinder and they are chill.

two days without utilities and they're doing street protests.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49341764)



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Date: October 11th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: rambunctious telephone

Yeah, I don't have a lot of sympathy for the dudes chilling in Kiev. Wouldn't be a bad thing if they get to share a tiny bit of the hardships of the frontline they have avoided for the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49342251)



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Date: October 11th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: shaky brethren senate

what are these entitled assholes even protesting?

"oh the power plant got hit with a missile 36 hours ago. the government hasn't restored my cable service yet, the bastards. better go block traffic until they make it a priority in this war."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49342359)



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Date: October 11th, 2025 3:59 PM
Author: fragrant massive box office

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49342255)



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Date: October 11th, 2025 10:06 AM
Author: rambunctious telephone

I'm sure that, unlike the previous 100 times there have been utility outages in Ukraine, this time it will stay off for good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49341627)



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Date: October 11th, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: Scarlet milk dingle berry

I guess I'm not going there for my mail-order ride. Moscow it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49341692)



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Date: October 11th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: appetizing violet wagecucks

https://www.facebook.com/groups/333082209433598/posts/779315681476913

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49342370)



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Date: October 11th, 2025 5:16 PM
Author: rambunctious telephone

Would assume that Moscow has very redundant energy sources.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49342379)



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Date: October 14th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1978153576611328417

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49349421)



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Date: October 15th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1978487784441782291

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49352255)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 8:06 AM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

still no electricity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49365755)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

Still? They get bombed regularly. Things are getting worse, not better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366145)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 12:21 PM
Author: Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night

How's the Kursk invasion going?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366150)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 12:26 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

Things are working great now

https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1981020323232333851

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366174)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night

Starting tomrrow? What are they expecting Russia to do overnight?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366179)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 12:42 PM
Author: provocative cruise ship goyim

what's crazy is that in WW2 the Soviet army was already approaching Berlin more than 3.5 years into the war. now some no name villages in east ukraine are being fought over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366218)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night

wow, that's fascinating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366221)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

I’m sure now the Ukrainians are finished

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366224)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night

How's the Kursk invasion going?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366227)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

ETA on Russia collapsing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366251)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

doesn’t matter when, they can’t win this war and they are completely fucked once Putin is out of the picture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366282)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

Ok, elaborate on this one. So you were saying that Putin sucks and is corrupt and dumb and all that, but now Russia only exists because he's basically Russian Napoleon or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366480)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

you believe in the whole russian fairy tale so piss off, not gonna waste my time explaining basic shit to you for the 100th time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366493)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

You haven't even explained this once! This is new which is what makes it entertaining. I'm enjoying TDNW changing into appreciating "the Tsar" more than Are Reptile does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366498)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

I have you tard, and I even remember your stupid response

good luck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366520)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

To post-Putin Russia? Are you sure that was me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366525)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night

he's schizo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366496)



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Date: October 22nd, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: Curious Light Psychic Queen Of The Night

Anyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49366283)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

https://x.com/CheburekiMan/status/1982219390092456389

No power in Moscow now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49376066)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: shaky brethren senate

the slow roll on this really shows what a bureaucrat Putin really is



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49376181)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: appetizing violet wagecucks

He appears to be winning the media game all over the world with this strategy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49376498)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 2:21 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

what’s russia’s endgame here? can any russiacucks even explain it at this point?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49376194)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: appetizing violet wagecucks

Go back to Mexico

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49376501)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 5:16 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

"anyone? cons?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49376697)



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Date: October 26th, 2025 9:31 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

Yes. Destroy critical infrastructure until life in Ukraine becomes impossible. People are already sour on the war, which will make it even more untenable. https://news.gallup.com/poll/693203/ukrainian-support-war-effort-collapses.aspx

Ultimately, I think there is a realization that Ukraine simply needs to be conquered and removed from the map. This is one way to do that. You guys kept saying that Russia can't do anything and that they are just drunk incompetents. You're going to see that there's quite a bit that they can do and have just been avoiding doing it until now. You'll cry and say "why would they do that" and "omg they're evil" but there were years of opportunities to avoid this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49377459)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:10 AM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

if you were more human you might see the very flawed logic you’re using

alas you’re a soulless russian Jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49377957)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

You asked a question, I answered it and you immediately switched to lazy ad hominem. This is why you're poor as shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49378841)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 1:50 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

I attacked your lack of logical thinking first

the ad hominem is just for context to remind others why you are thos fucked up creature and not an actual man (you’re a fake dad too btw)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379130)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:04 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

Attacking logical thinking implies that you identified a flaw in my argument, which you did not.

More irrelevant ad hominems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379379)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:14 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

of course I did, you’re just too much of a russiacuck to see the obvious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379402)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:28 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

Typical dumbass response. You don't even understand wtf an argument actually is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379472)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:31 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

says the soulless russian Jew

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379487)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

Perfect example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379496)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 1:44 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

lights out in Moscow! lol Russiacucks

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1982857935974961629

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379071)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 1:55 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

this will help them take Donbas, surely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379152)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

Donbass is almost done. This is to take the rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379380)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

no, it will take years to take the rest of Donbas. and that still leaves a lot of russian territory occupied by Ukrainian forces

this is an attack on civilians out of frustration at not making serious progress on the battlefield

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379400)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:26 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

Nah, it really won't. After the current battles are wrapped up (all by EOY) it'll just be Solviansk and Kramatorsk (right by each other). Probably over by the end of summer 2026.

"still leaves a lot of russian territory occupied by Ukrainian forces"

Do you mean from Zap and Kherson regions, the regions that voted for Yanukovich or all of Ukraine?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379467)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:30 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

lol, fucking couch general dork

Moscow is having to defend itself from massed attacks and you think you’ve got this thing almost wrapped up. delulu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379483)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:32 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

Correct, because their ability to fruitlessly chuck drones at Moscow is totally irrelevant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379495)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 3:38 PM
Author: Charcoal beady-eyed orchestra pit

yes, russia having to dedicate hundreds of scarce air defense assets around a massive city is “fruitless” according to retarded dork TMF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379536)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 4:42 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

what does the air defense situation look like for Ukraine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49379860)



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Date: October 27th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: sapphire dashing station

You act as if the A/D threat to Moscow is somehow new. As such, they weren't "pulled" they've been there for a long time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49380447)



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Date: November 8th, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

oh no, that sucks

https://x.com/ripplebrain/status/1987220020561109054

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49412826)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

Russiacucks, your response?

https://x.com/maria_avdv/status/1991584735882277065

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49450030)



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Date: November 24th, 2025 10:25 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

?

https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/1993113064166580345

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49458215)



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Date: December 6th, 2025 3:56 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

Russiacucks? Your response?

https://x.com/squatsons/status/1997384701594718658

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49488975)



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Date: December 27th, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

https://x.com/RWApodcast/status/2004730211901100456

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49543016)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:02 AM
Author: Know-it-all irradiated rehab

lol no power in Kiev and the grocery stores have bare shelves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49588247)



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Date: January 14th, 2026 8:04 AM
Author: Frum Gunner

Yeah total victory coming any day now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49588250)



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Date: February 2nd, 2026 10:47 PM
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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5785034&forum_id=2Vannesa#49642954)