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Two Cleveland Guardians pitchers charged in game rigging scandal

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
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Erotic Laser Beams Area
  11/09/25
they’ll get a permanent ban cr?
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
much more than that
Mischievous Ape
  11/09/25
anal rape?
Navy really tough guy
  11/09/25
But also some negative consequences
Big khaki stage
  11/09/25
...
galvanic fanboi
  11/09/25
Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.
Erotic Laser Beams Area
  11/09/25
Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?
Translucent vivacious background story corner
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gaped quadroon
  11/09/25
why who is he?
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
Lol sup ballmer
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Erotic Laser Beams Area
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Bearded Stag Film Old Irish Cottage
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cr he blows
sienna incel
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well-lubricated electric rehab ceo
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well-lubricated electric rehab ceo
  11/09/25
Cleveland *Indians*
Dull Vibrant Mother Sanctuary
  11/09/25
indians, cleveland
Violet cerebral patrolman
  11/09/25
im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de...
bistre hissy fit national security agency
  11/09/25
Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $7...
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo...
bistre hissy fit national security agency
  11/09/25
is $4.5m a lot of money to you?
white trip step-uncle's house
  11/09/25
A year? Yeah.
Supple Wild Pozpig
  11/09/25
why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar cri...
soul-stirring jade brunch
  11/09/25
the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involv...
opaque heaven
  11/10/25
wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them
Violet cerebral patrolman
  11/09/25
import the third world, become the third world
white trip step-uncle's house
  11/09/25
what retards, risking their careers for $5k
sienna incel
  11/09/25
*destroying
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
How do you calculate $5k
Mischievous Ape
  11/09/25
thats literally what they were paid to set it up https://...
sienna incel
  11/09/25
That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100...
Mischievous Ape
  11/09/25
Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it u...
Stirring Charcoal Codepig
  11/10/25
ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars...
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of...
fuchsia passionate stage
  11/09/25
How the scheme was caught • A betting-integrity firm ...
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
Jews maf
white trip step-uncle's house
  11/09/25
it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches ...
bistre hissy fit national security agency
  11/09/25
probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell t...
bistre hissy fit national security agency
  11/09/25
seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons...
sienna incel
  11/09/25
what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch...
soul-stirring jade brunch
  11/09/25
Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it...
fuchsia passionate stage
  11/09/25
Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars sus...
Mahogany station haunted graveyard
  11/09/25
there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text ...
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solel...
Mahogany station haunted graveyard
  11/09/25
i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pi...
soul-stirring jade brunch
  11/09/25
solely? https://x.com/barstooltate/status/194084394481394...
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
here’s one of the pitches https://x.com/barstooltat...
provocative trailer park
  11/09/25
lol
Mahogany station haunted graveyard
  11/09/25
Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction
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...
white trip step-uncle's house
  11/09/25
that is fucking hilarious.
high-end cowardly theater stage international law enforcement agency
  11/09/25
was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "ju...
Violet cerebral patrolman
  11/09/25
its real, clearly a major league reference
sienna incel
  11/09/25
anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be sepa...
opaque heaven
  11/10/25
I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds...
fuchsia passionate stage
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galvanic fanboi
  11/09/25
lol https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749...
provocative trailer park
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white trip step-uncle's house
  11/10/25
could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines. ...
Maroon seedy business firm
  11/10/25
lol
carnelian den
  11/10/25
Lmao
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  11/10/25


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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:23 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

https://x.com/pablotorre/status/1987587583946142090?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414444)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Erotic Laser Beams Area

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414449)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

they’ll get a permanent ban cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414453)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Mischievous Ape

much more than that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: Navy really tough guy

anal rape?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414492)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:58 PM
Author: Big khaki stage

But also some negative consequences

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414697)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: galvanic fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415169)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: Erotic Laser Beams Area

Yes especially as they are random spics no one cares about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414544)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: Translucent vivacious background story corner

Can we not link to smug dipshit Pablo Torre?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414455)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: gaped quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414462)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

why who is he?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414484)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: Odious walnut whorehouse

Lol sup ballmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414534)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:06 PM
Author: Erotic Laser Beams Area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414547)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: Bearded Stag Film Old Irish Cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414879)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:59 PM
Author: sienna incel

cr he blows

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414535)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: well-lubricated electric rehab ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415195)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:18 PM
Author: well-lubricated electric rehab ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415193)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Dull Vibrant Mother Sanctuary

Cleveland *Indians*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414457)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Violet cerebral patrolman

indians, cleveland

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414465)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: bistre hissy fit national security agency

im shocked two guys Luis Leandro Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase de la Cruz werent upstanding individuals but tbf jews do this type of shit all the time in every industry and never get arrested

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414458)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:41 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

Clase’s salary is $4.5 mil the other guy’s is $782k

Why would they do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414486)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: bistre hissy fit national security agency

i dunno but those beaners definitely werent also raping 12yo girls, beaners arent like that man. definitely no reason for kash to look at their laptops for pedo porn. no way man, latinos are catholic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414489)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: white trip step-uncle's house

is $4.5m a lot of money to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414508)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 9:54 PM
Author: Supple Wild Pozpig

A year? Yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415460)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: soul-stirring jade brunch

why do wealthy people get caught committing white collar crime all the time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414850)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:42 AM
Author: opaque heaven

the nba guy was pulling $25M a year. all the players involved don't seem very bright.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416613)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Violet cerebral patrolman

wait til tom berrenger gets ahold of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414464)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: white trip step-uncle's house

import the third world, become the third world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414466)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: sienna incel

what retards, risking their careers for $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414488)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

*destroying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414493)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: Mischievous Ape

How do you calculate $5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414500)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: sienna incel

thats literally what they were paid to set it up

https://x.com/JeffPassan/status/1987590315918954834

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414514)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: Mischievous Ape

That was just one pitch. From what I can tell there were 100 or more individual bets/pitches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414517)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:01 AM
Author: Stirring Charcoal Codepig

Clase had like $20m guaranteed on his contract and blew it up over like $10k total what a fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416778)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

ESPN articles says they got hundreds of thousands of dollars in kickbacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414522)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:42 PM
Author: fuchsia passionate stage

Lmao hundreds of k's? The only way it'd be worth the risk of their career, jail time, and public disgrace is if they were paid tens of millions. For the guy making $4.5M, maybe even hundreds of millions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415108)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

How the scheme was caught

• A betting-integrity firm flagged unusual betting activity: in particular, two specific pitches thrown by Ortiz (on June 15 and June 27, 2025) were subject to a much higher volume of bets than normal.

• The activity was forwarded to Major League Baseball (MLB), which placed Ortiz on paid administrative leave while investigating.

• Subsequently, Clase (the closer) was also placed on non-disciplinary paid leave amid the investigation.

• On November 9, 2025, both players were indicted by federal prosecutors on charges including wire fraud conspiracy, bribery, money-laundering conspiracy, and conspiracy to influence sporting contests by bribery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414497)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:47 PM
Author: white trip step-uncle's house

Jews maf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414506)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: bistre hissy fit national security agency

it seems pointless to do this on individual furking pitches wtf is this shit, r these furks really that stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414512)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

probably less monitored than game outcomes and O/U

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414523)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:55 PM
Author: bistre hissy fit national security agency

but im sure they use the computers, the computers can tell them unusual stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414526)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 2:58 PM
Author: sienna incel

seems incredibly trivial to catch though. wow, how odd, tons of money is coming in on clase's first pitch of the inning, we should check that out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414532)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: soul-stirring jade brunch

what's the difference between betting on an individual pitch and betting on the outcome of the game?

it's like betting on the color of the gatorade at the superbowl. the whole point in colluding on something like this is that the colluders aren't significantly impacting the entire game. it's not like this is the black sox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414858)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:45 PM
Author: fuchsia passionate stage

Cr. And a single player can't throw a game without making it obvious. But a pitch is well within their control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415115)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 3:53 PM
Author: Mahogany station haunted graveyard

Seems like the path to getting your opposing teams stars suspended. Have a big group place bets on specific pitches all at once and all the same way. Player gets put on 'administrative leave' while Comissioners office investigates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414687)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:00 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

there was likely more corroborating evidence like cell/text records

also they’d have to throw they same pitches you placed huge bets on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414701)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 4:24 PM
Author: Mahogany station haunted graveyard

the reporting suggests that admin leave was the result solely of the large bets. the corroboration came later sounds like which resulted in the indictment.

no you wouldnt need them to throw the same pitches. you'd just need a lot of ppl betting that a certain pitch would be thrown. if he doesn't throw that pitch, oh well he wasn't able to do it for some other reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414740)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: soul-stirring jade brunch

i'm sure the large volume of bets being correct *and* the pitches being extremely poor factored in. at best something like that would trigger in investigation but i don't think anyone's getting put on leave because of irregular betting alone. especially not a star pitcher.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414895)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:33 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

solely?

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414899)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: provocative trailer park

here’s one of the pitches

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1940843944813949425?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414840)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: Mahogany station haunted graveyard

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414847)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: razzmatazz amber marketing idea

Too bad the ump was not colluding in the opposite direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414868)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:15 PM
Author: white trip step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414950)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 6:22 PM
Author: high-end cowardly theater stage international law enforcement agency

that is fucking hilarious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49414960)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:05 PM
Author: Violet cerebral patrolman

was was the voiceover real or ai? did he really say "just a little bit outside" or did someone add that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415148)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:10 PM
Author: sienna incel

its real, clearly a major league reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415167)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 7:34 AM
Author: opaque heaven

anyone who bets on stupid shit like this deserves to be separated from their $. Also these beaners should be banned and deported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416384)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 7:55 PM
Author: fuchsia passionate stage

I'm pretty sure this is all a big nothing burger. It reminds me of the time airline stocks were massively shorted on September 10, 2001. Turns out it was just a big coincidence haha. Same here imo haha.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415127)



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Date: November 9th, 2025 8:11 PM
Author: galvanic fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415170)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:00 AM
Author: provocative trailer park

lol

https://x.com/barstooltate/status/1987600564474253749?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49415981)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 12:20 AM
Author: white trip step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416110)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: Maroon seedy business firm

could make a good XO $2M hypo -- where is Nazca Redlines.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416629)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 10:01 AM
Author: carnelian den

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416653)



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Date: November 10th, 2025 11:00 AM
Author: Stirring Charcoal Codepig

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5795267&forum_id=2Vannesa#49416774)