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Peak experience for El Capitan climber: rappels off end of rope on livestream
| Histrionic Olive Den | 10/03/25 |
| Blathering property really tough guy | 10/03/25 |
| Gaped church building | 10/03/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/03/25 |
| Titillating cruise ship | 10/04/25 |
| lavender plaza | 10/04/25 |
| Charismatic Cordovan Box Office | 10/04/25 |
| metal mediation range | 10/03/25 |
| Dull Dashing Internal Respiration Business Firm | 10/03/25 |
| Histrionic Olive Den | 10/03/25 |
| mauve pistol | 10/03/25 |
| frisky candlestick maker boltzmann | 10/03/25 |
| Dull Dashing Internal Respiration Business Firm | 10/03/25 |
| Thriller sadistic indian lodge | 10/03/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/03/25 |
| Yapping Goyim Depressive | 10/03/25 |
| laughsome avocado mexican | 10/03/25 |
| bespoke stimulating preventive strike | 10/03/25 |
| Flirting menage | 10/03/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/03/25 |
| Wine Supple Athletic Conference Voyeur | 10/03/25 |
| sooty diverse library nowag | 10/03/25 |
| startled space | 10/03/25 |
| stirring drab hell | 10/03/25 |
| abnormal nofapping dragon trump supporter | 10/03/25 |
| heady friendly grandma site | 10/03/25 |
| stirring drab hell | 10/03/25 |
| internet-worthy spectacular deer antler | 10/03/25 |
| Histrionic Olive Den | 10/03/25 |
| Gaped church building | 10/03/25 |
| Duck-like yellow point | 10/03/25 |
| Claret incel | 10/04/25 |
| Misunderstood prole idea he suggested | 10/03/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/03/25 |
| White exciting institution | 10/03/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/03/25 |
| Razzle tan locus | 10/03/25 |
| Gaped church building | 10/05/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/05/25 |
| Appetizing lemon bawdyhouse newt | 10/03/25 |
| Appetizing lemon bawdyhouse newt | 10/03/25 |
| hairraiser ticket booth scourge upon the earth | 10/03/25 |
| contagious pit private investor | 10/03/25 |
| Mind-boggling stag film | 10/03/25 |
| stirring drab hell | 10/03/25 |
| heady friendly grandma site | 10/03/25 |
| Razzmatazz Faggot Firefighter Theatre | 10/05/25 |
| Histrionic Olive Den | 10/03/25 |
| talented nubile tanning salon | 10/03/25 |
| Charismatic Cordovan Box Office | 10/04/25 |
| Irate sex offender volcanic crater | 10/03/25 |
| heady friendly grandma site | 10/03/25 |
| lavender plaza | 10/04/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/05/25 |
| Irradiated bonkers rehab mental disorder | 10/03/25 |
| greedy fat ankles | 10/03/25 |
| bat shit crazy trip principal's office brethren | 10/04/25 |
| Histrionic Olive Den | 10/04/25 |
| bat shit crazy trip principal's office brethren | 10/04/25 |
| lavender plaza | 10/04/25 |
| Fluffy marketing idea | 10/03/25 |
| buff school cafeteria feces | 10/04/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/04/25 |
| magical potus | 10/04/25 |
| Irradiated bonkers rehab mental disorder | 10/04/25 |
| Histrionic Olive Den | 10/04/25 |
| Excitant ruby water buffalo national | 10/04/25 |
| Marvelous fishy area | 10/04/25 |
| Claret incel | 10/04/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/04/25 |
| heady friendly grandma site | 10/04/25 |
| Gaped church building | 10/04/25 |
| Vivacious twinkling uncleanness | 10/04/25 |
| Wine Supple Athletic Conference Voyeur | 10/04/25 |
| Transparent Glittery Love Of Her Life | 10/04/25 |
| magical potus | 10/04/25 |
| 180 hyperactive stead pisswyrm | 10/04/25 |
| Wine Supple Athletic Conference Voyeur | 10/04/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/04/25 |
| Irradiated bonkers rehab mental disorder | 10/04/25 |
| Rebellious odious generalized bond | 10/04/25 |
| metal mediation range | 10/04/25 |
| Transparent Glittery Love Of Her Life | 10/04/25 |
| internet-worthy spectacular deer antler | 10/05/25 |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:02 PM Author: Histrionic Olive Den https://www.sfgate.com/national-parks/article/climber-dies-yosemite-el-capitan-fall-21081616.php
“[He] was hauling his bag up the last pitch when it became stuck. So, he went down his lead line to clear it,” Evans wrote. “His rope didn’t reach the bag’s location by many feet, but he seemed unaware of that fact. On the way down he rappelled off the end of the rope.”
Makes my palms sweaty just thinking about the rush. |
Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:09 PM Author: Blathering property really tough guy "he could do physics with little effort." Sometimes a little effort is not enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322337) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:43 PM Author: Gaped church building Savage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322423) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:09 PM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322881) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 2:45 AM Author: Titillating cruise ship Wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324004) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 3:59 AM Author: lavender plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324048) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 7:57 AM Author: Charismatic Cordovan Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324148) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:12 PM Author: metal mediation range "Miller's death came on the first day of the federal government shutdown, which left national parks "generally" open, with limited operations and closed visitors centres.'
Wow Drumpf has blood on his orange hands |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:13 PM Author: Dull Dashing Internal Respiration Business Firm link to livestream? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322346) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:13 PM Author: Histrionic Olive Den Don't think I want to see that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322347) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:00 PM Author: mauve pistol That's ok. Send the link and we'll describe it for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322446) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:20 PM Author: frisky candlestick maker boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322513) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:41 PM Author: Dull Dashing Internal Respiration Business Firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322587) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 3:08 PM Author: Thriller sadistic indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322734) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:10 PM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322882) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:41 PM Author: Yapping Goyim Depressive lol at thing-doers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322420) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:42 PM Author: laughsome avocado mexican (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322422) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:55 PM Author: bespoke stimulating preventive strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322438) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:51 PM Author: Flirting menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322997) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:32 PM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323104) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:43 PM Author: Wine Supple Athletic Conference Voyeur Jesus Christ that is retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322424) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 1:45 PM Author: sooty diverse library nowag am i cooked chat? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322427) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:06 PM Author: startled space "peak" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322470) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:11 PM Author: stirring drab hell Im only surprised these things dont happen more often (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322485) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:14 PM Author: abnormal nofapping dragon trump supporter “but he seemed unaware of that fact.”
Thanks for clarifying |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:17 PM Author: heady friendly grandma site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322504) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:21 PM Author: stirring drab hell Is he ok?
Dont leave this as a cluff hanger. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 2:54 PM Author: internet-worthy spectacular deer antler Needs to be added to corporate lingo.
Rakesh, you’ll want to make sure you update your PNPs for this. Don’t want to rappel off the end of your rope when the SOX auditors start to ask questions.
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:08 PM Author: Histrionic Olive Den 180. We need whichever poster has the most reports to start forcememing this in his organization. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322877) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:48 PM Author: Gaped church building I am unironically going to start using this in discussions risked-based decision making. 100% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322981) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:18 PM Author: Duck-like yellow point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323085) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 1:23 AM Author: Claret incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323943) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:12 PM Author: Misunderstood prole idea he suggested Any climbing mastermen itt? Aren't you supposed to tie knots in your ropes so this doesn't happen? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322889) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:21 PM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond lol, I’m no masterman but the rope is supposed to be considerably longer than the descent so that this doesn’t happen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322903) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:53 PM Author: White exciting institution El Cap is 10000k feet tall, they don't make ropes that long (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323002) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:07 PM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond he wasn’t going from top to bottom bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323056) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 6:14 PM Author: Razzle tan locus lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323173) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 11:47 AM Author: Gaped church building Until he was (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49326566) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 12:56 PM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49326709) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:54 PM Author: Appetizing lemon bawdyhouse newt You usually carry multiple ropes but it can be done with one rope if you constantly anchor / redrop the rope. Risk with one rope is that if it oops falls out of your hands you're fucked and stuck on the side of a cliff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323006) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 4:51 PM Author: Appetizing lemon bawdyhouse newt Yes, you tie a knot at the end of the rope whenever you rappel for this exact reason. When dropping the rope or pulling it back up (after you get to the end of it and have anchored on the rock) it can get stuck in cracks/on bushes so it's more of a PITA but it beats OOPS not rappelling off your rope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49322996) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:43 PM Author: hairraiser ticket booth scourge upon the earth Yes, a simple stopper knot that takes approximately 5 seconds to tie. It’s very common and even indoor climbers know how to tie one.
There’s a continuum of experience for their use. Inexperienced - always tie them. Confident and more experienced climbers - often skip them because they can be a bit of a PITA. Legit truly experienced experts - always tie them. This guy fell in the middle it seems like. |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 6:38 PM Author: contagious pit private investor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX7dF80W35g (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323247) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:00 PM Author: Mind-boggling stag film honestly, he could stand with any man who has ever lived since about the first man, point to the peak, point to himself and indicate he'd been up there. This would inspire some marvel and admiration from any man, ever. He could then make a kind of splatter gesture with his hand, and all those cro-mags and homo erectuses, etc would all get that, too.
Kind of 180000 to die doing something so universal across all history, and universally heroic.
Now imagine how most of us would describe are lives and are deaths.
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:03 PM Author: stirring drab hell Not falling off a cliff face
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 5:12 PM Author: heady friendly grandma site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323068) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 12:59 PM Author: Razzmatazz Faggot Firefighter Theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49326716) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 6:23 PM Author: Histrionic Olive Den Did any of you bros watch The Alpinist, and go in completely cold? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323188) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 9:52 PM Author: talented nubile tanning salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323689) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 8:01 AM Author: Charismatic Cordovan Box Office I will do that tonight, good sir (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324150) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 7:00 PM Author: Irate sex offender volcanic crater that's tough. i don't understand the mechanics here but it sounds like riding a motorcycle: you need to be perfect every single moment. (and even if you're perfect, other people fucking up can kill you, though that's not what happened here) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323303) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:00 PM Author: heady friendly grandma site Dude fell half a mile. That's about 17 seconds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323785) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 4:14 AM Author: lavender plaza I got 13 but neglected air resistance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324059) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 11:42 AM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond peak experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49326557) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:37 PM Author: Irradiated bonkers rehab mental disorder I still don’t get what happened. He climbed to point A, went back to get his gear at point B, the gear got stuck somehow so he went back to get it unstuck and somehow couldn’t stop and flew off the mountain? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323836) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:38 PM Author: greedy fat ankles Yes. Remarkable, isn't it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323838) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 3:16 AM Author: bat shit crazy trip principal's office brethren all these climbing fags are using their retarded terms to describe shit, unable to explain shit at a basic level. they keep mentioning something abt tieing a knot at the end of the rope, if he had done that he wldnt have died to DET but i dont furking understand how that furking changes shit
and i dont understand wtf ur bag wld get stuck, wtf do u even have a bag, i think by bag they mean some other shit like to keep ur ropes wtf is this nigga shit wtf wldnt u just keep the bag on ur back |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 3:48 AM Author: Histrionic Olive Den In other words, you’re a dweeb who hasn’t spent time outdoors other than quick runs to the beer store? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324033) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 5:04 AM Author: bat shit crazy trip principal's office brethren I tried doing a birdshit activity in Hellosirland and it was a disaster. Birdshits are insane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324097) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 4:17 AM Author: lavender plaza I gather a knot would have helped him stop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324062) |
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Date: October 3rd, 2025 11:44 PM Author: Fluffy marketing idea i never got the logistics behind climbing even though they made us do that shit in middle school on little cliffs. at most a rope and harness are a b+ tool so you can delude yourself into thinking youre not gonna die right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323840) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 12:03 AM Author: buff school cafeteria feces Here is the video:
https://watchpeopledie.tv/h/falling/post/391759/balin-miller-climing-incident-03102025 |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 1:21 AM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323940) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 1:25 AM Author: magical potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323947) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 1:29 AM Author: Irradiated bonkers rehab mental disorder what the fucking fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49323951) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 3:50 AM Author: Histrionic Olive Den Wow. Wasn’t as bad as I’d expected — I’d took “livestream” to mean he was streaming from a helmet cam or something at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324037) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 5:16 AM Author: Excitant ruby water buffalo national why did he give up on himself and plunge straight down instead of doing some sort of kick-flip against the rock face so that he could change his trajectory and grab on to a ledge or something? parkour stuff, basically. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324106) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 5:29 AM Author: Marvelous fishy area he was at the end of his rope (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324109) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 5:37 AM Author: Claret incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324116) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 7:48 AM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324144) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 9:10 AM Author: heady friendly grandma site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324195) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 9:28 AM Author: Gaped church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324205) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 9:37 AM Author: Vivacious twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324218) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:03 AM Author: Wine Supple Athletic Conference Voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324367) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:48 AM Author: Transparent Glittery Love Of Her Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324483) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: magical potus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49325812) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 8:00 AM Author: 180 hyperactive stead pisswyrm What the fuck how could you not double check or be sure of how long the rope is. Man’s hubris with nature knows no bounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324149) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:05 AM Author: Wine Supple Athletic Conference Voyeur Looks like he tried to grab the rope his bag was hanging off of. To no avail
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:33 AM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond to his credit it does look like he was able to grab it pretty well, that’s why it pops up at the end
but you ain’t catching yourself on a piece of yarn while free falling |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:44 AM Author: Irradiated bonkers rehab mental disorder When he was rappelling down to get the gear unstuck, how did he not notice the rope holding him was not taut? Wouldn’t you sense it was wasn’t tied or knotted or whatever? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324471) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:47 AM Author: Rebellious odious generalized bond he probably wasn’t the type to use the catch knot at the end
and it’s probably not very taut usually. issue seems to be that he didn’t check that the end of the rope went down past where he was planning to stop |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:50 AM Author: metal mediation range I would have survived this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324489) |
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Date: October 4th, 2025 11:52 AM Author: Transparent Glittery Love Of Her Life Almost looks like he did it on purpose (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49324493) |
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Date: October 5th, 2025 10:41 AM Author: internet-worthy spectacular deer antler Marla Singer turning her head to face Disco Fries, exhaling smoke in his face. “Bounce.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5782674&forum_id=2Vannesa#49326440) |