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Wife left: tell me about seeking arrangements

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I'm not sure you're gonna be able to command top dollar cons...
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If they can’t handle me at my worst they don’t d...
cracking nursing home
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Your refusal to state your height speaks volumes.
Crawly point
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6’2” 220 (terrible build) Slight receding...
cracking nursing home
  09/23/25
why did your wife leave you?
translucent 180 ceo
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Wife had a mid life crisis. We married young but waited to h...
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if you have a chance to bludgeon yourself retarded with rust...
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Grinder.com
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  09/22/25
I don't believe OP is gay, though
Crawly point
  09/23/25
There are some gems on SA if you’re willing to wade th...
talented blue hell pistol
  09/23/25
Search for the seeking arrangement poaster’s threads. ...
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wow
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"Don’t want to risk hookers" I've got som...
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There’s some pros on there for sure but there’s ...
talented blue hell pistol
  09/23/25
It is all literally sex for money.
Domesticated Puppy
  09/23/25
They're not hookers. They're just seeking Mutually Benefi...
Crawly point
  09/23/25
Actual professional hookers seem less risky than this.
saffron rebellious pisswyrm
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How so?
talented blue hell pistol
  09/23/25
They're not going to do something dumb like call or text you...
saffron rebellious pisswyrm
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I’d rather deal with an amateur hooker than a professi...
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professional hookers are in business bcs they are profession...
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…?
talented blue hell pistol
  09/23/25
Do not take advice from this poaster. He is dumb.
amber motley business firm hissy fit
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I’m speaking from experience, are you?
talented blue hell pistol
  09/24/25
that's why you give them a burner number and not your real n...
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Also this
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magenta hall windowlicker
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The time required to match/vet and potential for headaches t...
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Or he can go to church and find a decent woman to date/marry
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Date: September 22nd, 2025 3:05 PM
Author: cracking nursing home

Don’t want to risk hookers and i eventually want to try dating again but it’s been too long with the wife.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49291749)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chocolate casino

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:50 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chocolate casino

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:40 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chocolate casino

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296549)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 5:25 PM
Author: nyuug

White men don't [pay for sex].

Date: April 20th, 2026 1:28 AM

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http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5858159&forum_id=2#49828609

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#50090138)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 5:36 PM
Author: nyuug

49ers owner is asian bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#50090193)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 6:02 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#50090264)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 3:08 PM
Author: Crawly point

I'm not sure you're gonna be able to command top dollar considering your:

- age;

- height;

- remaining hair

But give it a go!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49291759)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 3:17 PM
Author: cracking nursing home

If they can’t handle me at my worst they don’t deserve me at my best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49291776)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: Crawly point

Your refusal to state your height speaks volumes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49291944)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:00 AM
Author: cracking nursing home

6’2”

220 (terrible build)

Slight receding with a widows peak. I don’t look balding yet but I’ve got some worries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49293643)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 4:15 PM
Author: translucent 180 ceo

why did your wife leave you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49291946)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: cracking nursing home

Wife had a mid life crisis. We married young but waited to have kids so I’m not sure what her problem is.

I work too much is part of it.

She didn’t cuck me before separation but I assume she has by now.

So I’m done.

Don’t really want another wife while my kids are young.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49293651)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:11 PM
Author: Deranged greedy black woman

if you have a chance to bludgeon yourself retarded with rust caked pipes, do that over and over instead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49292139)



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Date: September 22nd, 2025 5:40 PM
Author: coiffed bat shit crazy set codepig

Grinder.com

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49292243)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: Crawly point

I don't believe OP is gay, though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49295397)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:18 AM
Author: talented blue hell pistol

There are some gems on SA if you’re willing to wade through the trash. Ideal would be to find a cute-ish 20-25 yo girl who will have sex for $500 a pop that you can see twice a month or so. There’s a lot of flakes, I suggest quickly moving conversation to “hey let’s meet up for a drink, are you free tonight?” to see if they are serious / interested or not.

Don’t talk about money / sex on the app, wait to meet up and feel things out in person. Hopefully you have a least a little game.

Also, get in shape.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49293677)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: lavender state

Search for the seeking arrangement poaster’s threads. All the scholarship you need.

The short version is if you are moderately good looking you’ll do great. Tell them up front you are looking for pay per meet. You will undoubtedly have some kooky situations. Ultimately, you will grow tired of it and your soul will be diminished.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49293681)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: magenta hall windowlicker

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296963)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: odious federal jap halford

What's ur $$$$$ situation and geography?

DESCRIBE ur terrible physique and honestly rate ur facial aesthetics and genetic makeup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49293908)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:48 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle chocolate casino

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49293911)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:16 PM
Author: Domesticated Puppy

"Don’t want to risk hookers"

I've got some bad news about SA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49294299)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: talented blue hell pistol

There’s some pros on there for sure but there’s also some college girls looking for an allowance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49294402)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 2:57 PM
Author: Domesticated Puppy

It is all literally sex for money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49295292)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: Crawly point

They're not hookers.

They're just seeking Mutually Beneficial arrangements, tee-hee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49295402)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:57 PM
Author: saffron rebellious pisswyrm

Actual professional hookers seem less risky than this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49294413)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: talented blue hell pistol

How so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49294425)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 1:18 PM
Author: saffron rebellious pisswyrm

They're not going to do something dumb like call or text you at the wrong time or go nuts on you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49294503)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: talented blue hell pistol

I’d rather deal with an amateur hooker than a professional one, the pros are more likely to be sketchy, have a criminal record, drug use, poverty, STDs, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49295355)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 4:23 PM
Author: Lime comical nibblets elastic band

professional hookers are in business bcs they are professional, not on drugs, germ-free, take credit cards where as amateurs are all dirty druggies with std's they dont even know about, "oh that itch/rash/sore/fever, i thought it was cuz I havent showered in 5 days".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49295517)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: talented blue hell pistol

…?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296355)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:43 PM
Author: amber motley business firm hissy fit

Do not take advice from this poaster. He is dumb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296572)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:09 AM
Author: talented blue hell pistol

I’m speaking from experience, are you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49297045)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: Crawly point

that's why you give them a burner number and not your real name.

Rookie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49295406)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 4:13 PM
Author: talented blue hell pistol

Also this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49295494)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: silver french theatre mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49294429)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: lavender state

What does this sentence mean: “ start autistically getting to a surrogate activity”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296185)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:26 PM
Author: talented blue hell pistol

I think he means dedicate your life to hobbies or scholarship instead of wasting time on women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296383)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: silver french theatre mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296940)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:22 PM
Author: magenta hall windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296966)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:39 PM
Author: amber motley business firm hissy fit

The time required to match/vet and potential for headaches that can come from the fake dating with SA always seemed like a big negative to me. That single non-parent dude in CO who was lining them up 3 per night and poasted all those pics and sex diaries seemed like the right way to SA. Ie it’s a tool suited to single middle aged dudes with a lot of time to search for a daddy issues Cinderella. But for a single dad with young kids it seems awful. Requires time you don’t have and energy/stress you should spare yourself. If you want to fuck a hot chick, pay over $500/hr (usually $800 in a big city), get a burner, use a fake name, set up a fake LinkedIn and treat yourself to a high end escort every once in a while. No reason that would prevent you from dating later on or concurrently, in fact I’d argue it would improve your performance because you won’t depend on dating for sex, you’ll have more time and you will be more rational in your assessments of potential long term candidates.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296544)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: Passionate pontificating indian lodge gaming laptop

Or he can go to church and find a decent woman to date/marry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296958)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 3:24 AM
Author: amber motley business firm hissy fit

1) he says he doesn’t want to marry, 2) dating is very hard as a single parent with little kids, 3) the only women at church who see a single dad wrangling two kids and think to themselves “ohh I wonder if he’s single or his wife just has a stomach bug” are 300+ lbs. You’re right that mongering is a soul-rotting practice, but he’s the rare dude where the soul rot is worth the trade for the convenient access to sex with a woman who is otherwise far too attractive for him to ever have a chance with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49297191)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 9:47 PM
Author: naked lodge background story

You will be amazed at how often their cars break down, family members/pets have costly medical emergencies, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296638)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:51 AM
Author: Crawly point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49297113)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Domesticated Puppy

lol, sounds ghastly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49298625)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: Dun lascivious cuck

SA is a huge waste of time. Just hire hookers every now and then.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296951)



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Date: September 23rd, 2025 11:10 PM
Author: silver french theatre mexican



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49296954)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:50 AM
Author: Crawly point

It is until you get caught in a sting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49297112)



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Date: September 24th, 2025 12:03 AM
Author: Misanthropic mustard den

There is no value in this. It died the same way dating apps died. The hot chicks are on instagram and if they need extra cash post on onlyfans. The dude who posted here about SA posted a lot of 30s women. Why bother with that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49297025)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: exhilarant henna yarmulke

SA Poaster Here...

I got into a more serious relationship with a chick I met off a dating app... We ended up having a bunch of mutual friends in common and went from there so I haven't been on SA in ages... I also started doing great on the apps (this takes a bit of time as the algo ranks you and can be frustrating/discouraging at first so be patient), so I got off SA completely.

However, for your situation I think it's fine, just use a google voice burner number and ideally don't take them to where you live until you've hooked up with them at least once and aren't getting any sketchy or crazy vibes. I only say that because you have kids. I met up with plenty of chicks straight at my house straight away, including late at night and it was fine but if I had kids I wouldn't do that.

If you search SA on here you'll get all my poasts which have quite a bit of scholarship on the matter. Ideally you find 1 or 2 you actually have some fun hanging out with who are great in bed and you just keep them on rotation whenever you're free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49364680)



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Date: October 21st, 2025 5:44 PM
Author: cracking nursing home

What kind of PPM should I be looking at for high col city?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49364751)



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Date: November 2nd, 2025 7:21 PM
Author: Olive gas station

WHITE MEN DONT PAY FOR SEX DURR DURR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49396314)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 6:54 PM
Author: Olive gas station

Reminder: nyuug isn't a Korean citizen, only has US Passport

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3466376&forum_id=2#32188261



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49587124)



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Date: January 13th, 2026 7:08 PM
Author: Olive gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49587194)



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Date: June 8th, 2026 12:38 AM
Author: Olive gas station



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Date: June 8th, 2026 12:54 AM
Author: Olive gas station



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Date: June 8th, 2026 8:00 PM
Author: Olive gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49923921)



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Date: June 14th, 2026 9:42 PM
Author: Olive gas station



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Date: June 21st, 2026 5:38 PM
Author: Olive gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49953732)



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Date: June 21st, 2026 7:59 PM
Author: Olive gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49954031)



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Date: June 21st, 2026 11:39 PM
Author: Olive gas station



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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:30 PM
Author: Olive gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#49956506)



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Date: August 24th, 2026 5:22 PM
Author: nyuug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5778744&forum_id=2Vannesa#50090126)



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Date: January 21st, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: cracking nursing home

This is like the worst parts of dating plus still having to pay.

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Date: January 24th, 2026 9:40 AM
Author: cracking nursing home

These women are nuts

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Date: June 17th, 2026 2:03 PM
Author: Crawly point

they also enjoy licking your nuts

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Date: June 8th, 2026 5:55 AM
Author: exciting indirect expression death wish

why not just go hunting the Bumblesauruses?

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Date: June 22nd, 2026 7:50 PM
Author: coiffed bat shit crazy set codepig

cq

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