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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36252934) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: Stimulating brilliant set corn cake “I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36252952) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Claret vigorous goyim gas station As I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253562) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM Author: adventurous sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253586) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM Author: adventurous sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#43955228) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: sepia address they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36252972) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM Author: coral background story locale oh we got a legal expert here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#43231415) |
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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#43955203) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#49178217) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: Violet disturbing cumskin they have no debt as I understand it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36252979) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: adventurous sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253066) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: Salmon step-uncle's house new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253623) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM Author: Violet disturbing cumskin 260k is a huge salary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36252984) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Cyan Tanning Salon goes a long way in shaker heights (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36252989) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: garnet school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253024) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: adventurous sweet tailpipe Cr. Thats city janitor money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253068) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Ivory Razzmatazz Psychic Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36252986) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM Author: rose bearded indian lodge How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41935785) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Lake cuckoldry It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36252995) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: sepia address they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253002) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: Violet disturbing cumskin sounds 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253004) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: garnet school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253030) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM Author: Salmon step-uncle's house new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253696) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: Fantasy-prone histrionic immigrant https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253012) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: adventurous sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253073) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM Author: Claret vigorous goyim gas station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253597) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: Salmon step-uncle's house new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253628) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Salmon step-uncle's house new version https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253692) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: Lake cuckoldry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253708) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM Author: pontificating people who are hurt church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36254559) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM Author: Salmon step-uncle's house new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41949790) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM Author: pontificating people who are hurt church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#43231423) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#43231447) |
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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#48564541) |
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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM Author: Swashbuckling opaque hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#49178251) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: Bisexual primrose mediation shrine omg 260k where do they get off (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253074) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253521) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM Author: White Spot p depressing news going into the weekend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253537) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor Eat my dick nigger lover (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253786) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: White Spot your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36254215) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor Explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36254517) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36256523) |
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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36743851) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: pontificating people who are hurt church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36254823) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Brindle Hell yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#36253827) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Clear abode blood rage To be fair,
*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41933386) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM Author: mauve garrison dopamine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41933826) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM Author: Salmon step-uncle's house new version (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41949789) |
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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#43271055) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM Author: hairless black woman theater stage I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41933507) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM Author: Twisted gunner holy shit
out the firm |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor or at least give us vault range. that is really low. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41933783) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM Author: Milky Motley Partner Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41933852) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM Author: Milky Motley Partner That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41933882) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41949761) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM Author: bright kitchen sex offender They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41933851) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM Author: mauve garrison dopamine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41933950) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM Author: hairless black woman theater stage No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41935758) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM Author: bright kitchen sex offender Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41935989) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM Author: Insane peach piazza chad Better partnership odds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41935999) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM Author: bright kitchen sex offender That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41936016) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM Author: Insane peach piazza chad Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41936043) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM Author: Twisted gunner (Stevie Brogan) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41935792) |
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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM Author: impressive depressive hissy fit lol no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41935828) |
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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM Author: hideous soul-stirring center coffee pot how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#41949811) |
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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#42703414) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM Author: Cerebral really tough guy fortuitous meteor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#43231403) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM Author: Thriller half-breed candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#43231440) |
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM Author: Jet-lagged therapy that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2Vannesa#43231452) |
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