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Causal closure of the physical is almost certainly true
| The Penis | 08/10/26 |
| Metaphysical Animal | 08/10/26 |
| The Penis | 08/10/26 |
| Metaphysical Animal | 08/10/26 |
| The Penis | 08/10/26 |
| Metaphysical Animal | 08/10/26 |
| The Penis | 08/10/26 |
| Metaphysical Animal | 08/10/26 |
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| reluctant liberal artist with good phenotype | 08/10/26 |
| The Penis | 08/10/26 |
| Rickys' Cat | 08/10/26 |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:03 AM Author: The Penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057332) |
Date: August 10th, 2026 10:09 AM Author: Metaphysical Animal If you're retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057346) |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:21 AM Author: The Penis Who the hell questions causal closure of the physical? No serious thinker or physicist. It's the default assumption in terms of philosophical and scientific consensus. Every rigorously tested physical effect has been fully accounted for by prior physical states and laws. Non-physical causes would produce detectable anomalies or residual variances once all physical variables are controlled. There are none observed. It's the principle that survives contact with experiment and underwrites the predictive success of science. It remains revisable if clean counter-evidence ever arrives, although that is extraordinarily unlikely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057365) |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:22 AM Author: Metaphysical Animal You're over claiming (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057367) |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:28 AM Author: The Penis I'm overclaiming somewhat by saying no serious thinkers. There are serious papers written by interactionist dualists and whoever else. Lots of positions are “serious” inside philosophy departments while remaining wildly implausible given the scientific record. Non-physical causation that actually *does* anything is tightly constrained by known physics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057381) |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:34 AM Author: Metaphysical Animal >> Every rigorously tested physical effect has been fully accounted for by prior physical states and laws.
Also youre confusing an assumption of the paradigm in a period of "normal science" with a metaphysical absolute. Science is a liar sometimes. |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:45 AM Author: The Penis It's a defeasible claim that can always be revised in the face of new evidence. Empirical evidence normally gives inductive support rather than metaphysical certainty. Paradigms change, but that establishes only a possibility of error. As of now, there is no well-established physical phenomenon for which introducing a nonphysical causal influence is required by the evidence. And this case is not really one that resembles historical failures considering that increasingly successful physical explanations have repeatedly eliminated proposed extra causal agencies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057431) |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:48 AM Author: Metaphysical Animal This is just metaphysics (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057436) |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:48 AM Author: The Penis Yeah it's pretty gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057438) |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:32 AM Author: reluctant liberal artist with good phenotype Yeah
The only people who don't believe in it are people like mig who desperately want religion to be real even though they know it isn't real |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:37 AM Author: The Penis In his defense religion works and people probably should follow it. And it works better if you fully have faith in the divine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057408) |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:36 AM Author: Rickys' Cat i'm gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057404) |
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Date: August 10th, 2026 10:39 AM Author: Metaphysical Animal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5891331&forum_id=2Vannesa#50057413) |